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Topic: CAT 5e Cable.
Posted By: Hysteria
Subject: CAT 5e Cable.
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 2:11pm
I can use http://www.amazon.com/Belkin-A3L791-S-50-Foot-Snagless-Molded/dp/B00000J1V3/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-9825587-1972905?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1190484280&sr=8-1 - this to connect my Xbox 360 to my router, right?  I know next to nothing when it comes to computer hardware and such.



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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 2:13pm
Yes.

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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 2:19pm
Heh. Yep. Standard network cable.

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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 2:19pm
I just bought the cat6 version of that for $40

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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 2:22pm
I have like 5 ethernet cables that I have absolutely no use for at all. Matter of fact I don't even know why I have them

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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 2:30pm
Originally posted by Benjichang Benjichang wrote:

Heh. Yep. Standard network cable.


Thought so, but I was not sure after reading RJ45 and seeing that it was a "patch cable".  Also, would it be worth the extra $30 to get a CAT6 cable instead?

Thanks for the help, guys.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 2:36pm
No, the only difference between CAT5e and CAT6 is the transfer rate. CAT5e transfers at 100Mbps and CAT6 transfers at 120Mbps. But because most routers, and computers only have 10/100 ports the extra bandwidth is not used because the cables can transfer faster than the router/computer can.

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Posted By: scrumsguy
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 5:20pm
I need to get like a 500 foot one (modems upstairs and 360's buy my 50" sony downstairs

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 5:39pm

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

No, the only difference between CAT5e and CAT6 is the transfer rate. CAT5e transfers at 100Mbps and CAT6 transfers at 120Mbps. But because most routers, and computers only have 10/100 ports the extra bandwidth is not used because the cables can transfer faster than the router/computer can.

What? CAT5e was designed for use with gigabit networks, but it is no longer recommended for such applications because it has noise and crosstalk issues. CAT6 is built with more stringent specs in terms of minimizing such issues. CAT6 is intended to eventually run 10GBASET networks.



Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 6:12pm
Gettin ready for halo 3?

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Posted By: travis75
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 7:19pm
Originally posted by scrumsguy scrumsguy wrote:

I need to get like a 500 foot one (modems upstairs and 360's buy my 50" sony downstairs
The spec only allows up to 328 feet.  Anything more and you run the risk of signal loss.

Sorry.


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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 22 September 2007 at 8:04pm

Originally posted by scrumsguy scrumsguy wrote:

I need to get like a 500 foot one (modems upstairs and 360's buy my 50" sony downstairs

Wireless?



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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 12:56am
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Gettin ready for halo 3?


Halo 3 was what finally pushed me over the edge.  When I got my LCD, I rearranged my room.  I haven't had XBL since because my old cable wouldn't reach, but I didn't have anything that I really felt like playing anyway, so I didn't bother buying a cable.


Posted By: DGAFmuffinZ
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 2:07am
Is the wire that comes with the xbox a cat5 or cat 6?

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 2:18am
Not like it really matters, but it's CAT5(e) as far as I know.


Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 2:28pm
Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

No, the only difference between CAT5e and CAT6 is the transfer rate. CAT5e transfers at 100Mbps and CAT6 transfers at 120Mbps. But because most routers, and computers only have 10/100 ports the extra bandwidth is not used because the cables can transfer faster than the router/computer can.

What? CAT5e was designed for use with gigabit networks, but it is no longer recommended for such applications because it has noise and crosstalk issues. CAT6 is built with more stringent specs in terms of minimizing such issues. CAT6 is intended to eventually run 10GBASET networks.

Every CAT5e cable I have ever made or used is certifed for only 100, all cat6 is have used are only certifed for 120.

Originally posted by scrumsguy scrumsguy wrote:

I need to get like a 500 foot one (modems upstairs and 360's buy my 50" sony downstairs
 

CAT5e only will have acceptable SNR up to a little over 300ft before you need a signal repeater to boost the signal. This is why fiber is the bomb. 



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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 2:38pm
So who has a house big enough to require a 500ft cable to run from upstairs to downstairs? I suggest you either move the router closer or quit being a noob and run the cable correctly through the attic and down a wall.

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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 2:47pm
Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

Originally posted by hybrid-sniper hybrid-sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Snake6 Snake6 wrote:

No, the only difference between CAT5e and CAT6 is the transfer rate. CAT5e transfers at 100Mbps and CAT6 transfers at 120Mbps. But because most routers, and computers only have 10/100 ports the extra bandwidth is not used because the cables can transfer faster than the router/computer can.

What? CAT5e was designed for use with gigabit networks, but it is no longer recommended for such applications because it has noise and crosstalk issues. CAT6 is built with more stringent specs in terms of minimizing such issues. CAT6 is intended to eventually run 10GBASET networks.

Every CAT5e cable I have ever made or used is certifed for only 100, all cat6 is have used are only certifed for 120.

http://www.lanshack.com/cat5e-tutorial.aspx - http://www.lanshack.com/cat5e-tutorial.aspx

Category 5 E Cable (enhanced) Same as Category 5, except that it is made to somewhat more stringent standards http://www.lanshack.com/cat5e-tutorial.aspx#Chart - (see comparison chart below) . The Category 5 E standard is now officially part of the 568A standard. Category 5 E is recommended for all new installations, and was designed for transmission speeds of up to 1 gigabit per second (Gigabit Ethernet).

I don't know where you're getting 100 and 120 as maximum speeds, but that's not right. If CAT5 and CAT6 are incapable of much over 120, why are there gigabit ethernet cards available at the local Walmart? Why do mobo manufacturers put gigabit ethernet ports on their boards if no ethernet cables will support it?

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Posted By: scrumsguy
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 4:24pm

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

So who has a house big enough to require a 500ft cable to run from upstairs to downstairs? I suggest you either move the router closer or quit being a noob and run the cable correctly through the attic and down a wall.

your the noob my mom says it will look bad or something and so it won't work and since I bought my A-5 I don't have any money for a wireless (I don't even get allowence)



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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 6:22pm
What's allowance?


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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 23 September 2007 at 9:21pm
Originally posted by scrumsguy scrumsguy wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

So who has a house big enough to require a 500ft cable to run from upstairs to downstairs? I suggest you either move the router closer or quit being a noob and run the cable correctly through the attic and down a wall.

your the noob my mom says it will look bad or something and so it won't work and since I bought my A-5 I don't have any money for a wireless (I don't even get allowence)



High_Voltage, when did you get The Noob!?  I so ordered mine last week, but I have yet to receive it.


Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 8:01am
Originally posted by scrumsguy scrumsguy wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

So who has a house big enough to require a 500ft cable to run from upstairs to downstairs? I suggest you either move the router closer or quit being a noob and run the cable correctly through the attic and down a wall.

your the noob my mom says it will look bad or something and so it won't work and since I bought my A-5 I don't have any money for a wireless (I don't even get allowence)


Rofl.


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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 1:38pm
My 360 is all rigged up and I've been playing mad Live Halo 2 lately to get ready for H3.
I'm pissed though because the BestBuy I pre-ordered my copy at isn't open tonight at 12. I have to wait until at least tomorrow, and I have a feeling the line is going to be too long to wait in before I go to work.

I'm thinking about just sitting in line at WalMart tonight once I get off and just waiting, but that'll probably take like 5-6 hours. Probably just going to have to wait until tomorrow or Wednesday.

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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 5:06pm
Originally posted by Cedric Cedric wrote:

Gettin ready for halo 3?

Like half my school is skipping school that day, taking off from work, and going into like hibernation. It's ridiculous.


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Posted By: scrumsguy
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 7:50pm
The forums are going to be like stopped for atleast a week

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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 10:02pm
lol@paying $40 for a cat6 cable.  With that money you could've bought 1000 feet of cat5, along with a crimper, and 100 ends.  Turn around and sell it for 50 cents a foot. 

It's funny to go to Best Buy and watch people pay $30 for a $1 cable. 


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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 24 September 2007 at 10:25pm
Originally posted by Mehs Mehs wrote:

lol@paying $40 for a cat6 cable.  With that money you could've bought 1000 feet of cat5, along with a crimper, and 100 ends.  Turn around and sell it for 50 cents a foot. 

It's funny to go to Best Buy and watch people pay $30 for a $1 cable. 

Werd.


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