Air Pistols
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Topic: Air Pistols
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Subject: Air Pistols
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 4:26pm
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I am looking to buy an air pistol for screwing around with (not literally) in the backyard. I am looking at crossman because it seems like a decent company. I am deciding between two. right now. This which is $250 at my local store seems kina cool: (don't make fun) http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1326 - http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1326 And this one is $150 at the same store: http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1323 - http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1323 It's pretty obvious why I like the the first one. It's visually apealing and fires at 430 fps. The second I like because it has blowback. Just wondering: 1) What is blowback, and why would I want it? 2) Which would you recommend and why? 3) The second one only goes up to 350 fps. Will I notice that when I shoot in my backyard? (I will be shooting between 100-150 feet) 4) What would be a safe thing to mount paper targets on? 5) The second only shoots bb's. Are they accurate? I only have experience with pellets. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 4:31pm
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Blowback means it will function similar to a semi-auto pistol when shot, except no shell will fly out. I would take the blowback but i must go with the first one because it has a higher FPS. ------------- 
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Posted By: heliumman77
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 4:33pm
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Get one off eBay so much better prices those are expensive to screw around with.
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 4:35pm
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Also i re-read your post and get one that shoots pellets, much better than bb's.
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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 7:37pm
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Yeah blow-back means the slide will 'blow backwards' when the trigger is pulled like a real hand gun does. I have a CPSport by Walther that I paid $80USD for. It's fun, but they are very inaccurate. ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 7:39pm
| Anyone else notice that he says he likes the 2nd one because it has blowback..then asks what blowback is? |
Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 7:44pm
Kinda like how southerners are attracted to shiny things. -------------
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choopie911 wrote:Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 7:49pm
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my experience with crossman lately has sucked. their quality has gone way down.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 25 September 2007 at 10:09pm
There was a reason I said that. Blowback seems to be a major selling point on a lot of air pistols.
So why would I want this? And do you mean inaccurate because of the blowback? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: lt redneck
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 1:21am
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how much you willing to spend? ill link to a gun i have that i absolutly love but its just a bit pricy. no more expensive than many paintball guns ive seen here. http://www.airgundepot.com/colt-airpistols-1911nickel.html - http://www.airgundepot.com/colt-airpistols-1911nickel.html ohh NVM price reduced alot since i last looked them up. 8 shot cylinder style clip, ambi. safty switch, the look and feel of the colt 1911A1. now for those questions. 1: blowback is when the whole slide of the gun moves back like a real gun does. honestly its a waste of gas and requires way too much TLC to keep it working right.i have a walter PPK blowback pistol and had to file the clip that holds it back so it would reset itself after each shot. 2: if those are the 2 your set on id say #1 simply because i dont recomend blowback on a pistol like those. 3: unless your picky over things like that 350 and 430 FPS wont make much of a difference. 4: find some old deck planks or any boards about 3/4 inch thick and make a box big enough to hold the target on the outside edges. that way if you decide to use a bb gun instead of a pellet gun it will also trap the bb's for use again. 5: bb's are more accurate than some pellets but in general a pellet will be much more accurate. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 11:07am
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I don't know about that gun, the laws on replica firearms are kinda sketchy here. I read that blowback replicates the recoil of a real handgun, is this true?
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 3:08pm
The slide will rack back but nothing can really duplicate the feel of a true gun. -------------
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Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 5:32pm
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benjamin sheridan is my brand. i would check out a few other companies before settling on one.
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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 6:12pm
You can get that colt here. Imo if you want an air pistol and your looking at crossman. Look at the 2240. Bolt action .22 and fires at 400+ fps. Add a longer barrel (from a 2289 ) and your at 495+ FPS(Don't tell the gov  ) or the barrel from the 2260 and you can get a new hammer spring and fire at close to 625 fps. Can also hook it up to a paintball C02 tank instead of 12 grams the 22XX series crossman airguns are like the Ruger 10/22 of the airgun world. Easy to get parts for. Simple. effective. ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 6:26pm
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$250 for an air-pistol? Are you crazy?
Spend $30 for a C&R license and then get one of these: http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/p/cz-82-czech-9x18-makarov-military-pistol%2C-very-good-condition%2C-one-mag-now-c-r%21/products_id/1435 - 9x18 "Makarov" CZ-82 It'd run you the same price! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 6:33pm
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Andy: don't you nneed a firearms license for a .22 no matter how slow it shoots?
Tallen: In canada, it is a lot harder to get a pistol than in the US. Most people don't even bother with it. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 6:54pm
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Its a .22 airgun. No need for a licence or registration as long as its under 500 fps And tallen. You also cant shoot a pistol out in the boonies like you can in the USA. In Canada you have to shoot them at a designated range. Plus a Restricted PAL is a pain to get. ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 7:06pm
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The thing is that any real firearms store is at least 30 mins away from me.
Meaning that I would prefer to buy something that I could buy ammo for at canadian tire. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 7:15pm
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http://www.dlairgun.com/products.htm - http://www.dlairgun.com/products.htm Get yourself a co2 desert eagle and decimate all ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 7:18pm
Gamo makes some high quality stuff. They make some pretty nice handguns as well. Also, this handgun is only $70 http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=840007&t=11082005 - http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleit emid=840007&t=11082005 edit: And you should buy it from there. That's where i work. No discounts, though. ------------- X |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 7:27pm
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He is from Canada. Customs will rape him. They will try their hardest to get that gun to shoot over 500 fps(useing plastic pellets) and not allow that gun to enter Canada and possibly charge him with trying to import a firearm with out the proper steps taken (licences permits ect ect) if they somehow get it to shoot over 500 fps ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 8:30pm
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Ahhh so your mighty Loony can't buy you everything in Canada huh? God bless the boonies in the US! Back home I was 10min from the local public (free) range in the state forest. Could take just about anything out there and shoot it. I've fired thompson smg's, MG 42s, etc. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 9:02pm
I for one, don't have to worry about my neighbors having automatic weapons. But i'm not gona try and turn this into another debate. I've thought about ordering online. I can't find a decent Canadian site and I don't want to have to deal with customs. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 26 September 2007 at 9:47pm
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DL airguns is pretty good. The 2240 can be picked up at canadian tire. Can get parts at DL Or get the airgun from a local gun shop they can get you anything under the sun. Best thing to put paper targets on is 3/4 inch plywood with an inch of cardboard over the plywood. Works unless you have an airgun like mine. I can shoot though 2 by 4's ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 9:04pm
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Well I went back to Canadian Tire.
I took andy's advice and looked into a .22. The only .22 they sold there was this one: http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1044 It is ugly as hell but looks fun to shoot. What do you guys think? I also saw this one which was cheap and seemed to be of decent quality. http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1329 ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 9:06pm
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I've shot one of http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1044 - these
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 9:09pm
And I'm asking this to anyone: I have no experience with .22 cal pellets though I have years of experience with the .177 pellets (teach safety and shooting though I have never owned one before). What differences are there between the .177 and the .22? Specifically regarding noise, accuracy etc... ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 9:11pm
I was a lot younger, but I really enjoyed it. As I recall, it was way up there on the list of airguns that I'd get if I ever bought one. |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 9:27pm
Bigger pellet, hits harder. All C02 guns are somewhat loud, 2240 with a 24 inch barrel will get penny sized groupings at 10 yards. Pretty much the same as a .177 only bigger and hits harder That 2250 is pretty much a built up 2240 pistol ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 9:49pm
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Never mind, I now believe that the one I saw was this one:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?FOLDER% 3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672319&bmUID=1190944046232&PRODUCT% 3C%3Eprd_id=845524443248895&assortment=primary&fromSearch=tr ue#BVQAWidgetID\ The reviews say it needs 7-15 pumps. I don't want an air rifle /pistol that you need to pump more than once. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 9:59pm
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Thats the backpacker right? I have that one, but took the barrel off to put on my 2240. Takes 10 seconds to pump it 10 times, stop being a lazy arse. Hits hard enough to mushroom a wad cutter pellet. Buy a 2240. Contact crossman canada and order a 2289G barrel, stock and the spring and pin to keep the stock onto the handle if you want a gun thats like the backpacker only its c02 ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 10:12pm
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Nah... just don't want a multiple pump gun at all.
This has the current inventory of my local canadian tire store (misisng a few though I believe) http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/subcategory_landing.jsp?FO LDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672319&PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845 524443248849&bmUID=1190945485341 ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 10:17pm
Don't know if it was said but .22 and .117 are actually measurements, so the difference is the pellet size. -------------
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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 10:22pm
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 11:00pm
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Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 11:54pm
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 September 2007 at 11:56pm
I'm not going to say that I'm too lazy so i'm just gona say ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |