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Topic: Pump It Up
Posted By: Policia
Subject: Pump It Up
Date Posted: 03 October 2007 at 3:21pm
You know i think tippmann needs to make another pump or SC guns. seriously i think it would be awsome if they did, i know i would buy it, and add it to the ever growing pump collection of mine.

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"Imagine a CO2 cartridge gun, capable of getting 20 shots per air capsule, which can hit consistantly at 40 yards!"

-APG Review of Earon Carter's "Comp Gun"
November 1987



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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 03 October 2007 at 4:06pm
Ok? Thanks?

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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 03 October 2007 at 6:14pm

i think tippmann was turned off of pumps whith the c3. you can find them on ebay for 40, many people sell them for under 100. they also have had so much succes with the A5 and X7, i dont think they would want to go back to pumps. i would like a new pump, maybe with more options to make it milsim like, and smaller than the C3 and will use co2/air.  



Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 03 October 2007 at 10:20pm
yeah i dont think the market is there really. specially since they have the c3. you can convert most tippies to be pump. but as far as manufacturing one. i dont forsee one in the near future


Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 8:50am
I don't think Tippmann would ever do pump again let alone SC. Carter and CCI pretty much own the pump market, with some competition from Palmers and WGP Sniper series.

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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 11:56am

Pretty much the only people that play with pumps anymore are people playing on a really tight budget, or mainly stock class players.

Either one is not a very large market. Stock class players arn't looking to pick up some off-the-shelf gun. They are gonna get their stuff either custom made, or something high-end.

Tippmann is clear of the pump market, and should stay that way.



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Posted By: Policia
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 3:01pm
wow people playing pumps are on a tight budget, ya thats it my carter costs me 700 and my phantom 350, plamer costs 1200, and my ccm S6 costs 600, so budget no i think not. plus theres a huge series for pump players OSC, and pump pandmonium at EMR. all iam saying is it would be cool, and very nice, cause i love the SL series they are awsome.

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"Imagine a CO2 cartridge gun, capable of getting 20 shots per air capsule, which can hit consistantly at 40 yards!"

-APG Review of Earon Carter's "Comp Gun"
November 1987


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 5:08pm
Yeah, you didn't read the second group as according to The Guy.


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Posted By: Policia
Date Posted: 04 October 2007 at 7:40pm
Ya I read it, and again he needs to do his homework, I have seen more open class players than stock class, I think stocklass is going down hill these days, so there is not that many SC players, But a crap load of Open class, so I was just merely making a point that tippmann should have one more, I mean if lapco brought back the grey ghost iam sure tippmann can bring back a new and improved SL. Trust me if the gun was cheaper than phantoms and carters alot more people would buy it. most of the people I play with who play pump want to see another tippmann pump. 

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"Imagine a CO2 cartridge gun, capable of getting 20 shots per air capsule, which can hit consistantly at 40 yards!"

-APG Review of Earon Carter's "Comp Gun"
November 1987


Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:21am

There are no plans at this time to release a new pump marker of any kind. Unfortunately, there is no longer enough of a market to justify the expense.

-Ken Thompson, Tippmann Janitorial Supervisor



Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Policia Policia wrote:

wow people playing pumps are on a tight budget, ya thats it my carter costs me 700 and my phantom 350, plamer costs 1200, and my ccm S6 costs 600, so budget no i think not. plus theres a huge series for pump players OSC, and pump pandmonium at EMR. all iam saying is it would be cool, and very nice, cause i love the SL series they are awsome.


I'm glad to hear you have so much money to blow. My ACI Hornet cost me $50. Most pumps are really cheap.


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Posted By: Policia
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 12:50pm
Ya lots of money to blow, ya years and years of purchasing and re selling, and iam glad you picked up an aci for 50, the only cheap pumps i have seen are the pgps the sl68s, acis other than that they cost a bit.

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"Imagine a CO2 cartridge gun, capable of getting 20 shots per air capsule, which can hit consistantly at 40 yards!"

-APG Review of Earon Carter's "Comp Gun"
November 1987


Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 05 October 2007 at 2:19pm
i guess i personally dont see why u'd spend so much for a pump. if theres a reason than awesome. is it just that they are vintage and have reached a "collectors" status. or is there really something so remarkable about them that justifies spending 500+ bux???


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 October 2007 at 12:30am

Ken? You got promoted to janitorial supervisor? Good work.

Well, I didn't want to say anything, but if Mr. Thompson can comment, I don't see why the design dept. cannot either. With the disappointing sells of what was originally thought to be the end-all be-all pump, the C3, Tippmann Sports has turned its attention away from the pump market. Until the market can justify the cost of materials, retooling and production of an entire line of markers, we cannot introduce a line of pump markers. After all, we are a much larger company than CCI or Cartermachine, no disrespect intended.

Don Glass
- Tippmann Sports Design Dept.



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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 October 2007 at 12:49am
The point of the Gray Ghost is a bit out of context Policia. Colin Thompson is no longer in full control of LAPCO and the new controlling board felt that the best way to garner better PR was by appeasing the masses that had been asking for a Gray Ghost re-issue. It took a good 15 years for there to be enough people asking for it and a change of control to actually make it happen. While stock-class isn't declining as much as many believe, the sheer number of quality used cheap pumps out there is astounding. Most of your hard-core SC players have their high-end models and multiple back-ups as well as their collections already. The need for a solid moderately priced pump simply isn't there. Open-Class play is actually declining much faster than SC is as the vast majority of tournaments that hold a pump-event choose to go SC route as it appeals to the easiest common denominator to achieve. It's a supply and demand decision. There's a huge supply out there, the demand is met by the current supply, and the cost of entering the market is just too high. There's a reason the SL-series markers were discontinued. They just didn't sell anymore.

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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 06 October 2007 at 10:38am
So basically this is the cycle of the ideas forum.

You come on and post an idea under the guise of "I think it would be a good idea if...". When really what you are saying is "I want this..., create one so I can have it".

When you are proven wrong, and carefully explained to why it is a bad idea. You much like many before you, throw a tantrum. Explaining with skewed logic how you are right, and we are all idiots.

This is why I am the master of the ideas forum.


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Posted By: Policia
Date Posted: 06 October 2007 at 8:38pm
for one i didnt throw a fit and didnt call you idiots, second i just thought it would be a good "Idea" if they made one, and second no insult about cci or carter, and to answer why you would pay that much for a pump. you pay for quality, not over produced guns, why would you spend 300+ on an X-7 (A-5) clone and man i have seen sc going down, i still play sc but open class is running crazy. you havent proven me wrong in anyway i havent stated anything that has said i was right, all i think i said was pump is big enough to have a market. thats all i have to say o master of idea fourms.

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"Imagine a CO2 cartridge gun, capable of getting 20 shots per air capsule, which can hit consistantly at 40 yards!"

-APG Review of Earon Carter's "Comp Gun"
November 1987


Posted By: Zippo25
Date Posted: 07 October 2007 at 2:57pm

lol. i love when people take threads so seriously. RAWR.

honestly tho i do agree with the lack of following with pumps.  and the guy lol u come across as such an ass u crack me up



Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 07 October 2007 at 5:27pm
Thats because I am one.

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Posted By: Brianwawrz
Date Posted: 26 October 2007 at 9:24pm
Leave the pumps to CCI and Carter.


Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 26 October 2007 at 10:14pm

Even if Tippmann were to make another pump, it would be bulkier and heavier than all the other high end pumps that no one would buy them. By the way, the resale on them would be extremely low.



Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 27 October 2007 at 10:23pm

Would be nice if they could remake the C3 better, more on the lines of a " http://www.impactguns.com/store/media/ser_shorty_big.jpg - Super Shorty " or a " http://initiative.ludineo.com/Images/photos/armes/170.jpg - Remington 870MCS " well anything better looking then the c3.

but im not getting my hopes up, i think tippmann's last pump will be the c3.



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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 6:07pm
sadly i cant say i would buy another tippmann pump... i have shot many pump guns in the past few years and my sl68 II was one of the worst i have seen. the "blurping" and cast body really turned me off. my trracer is 100x better.

pump play is something special. its a fun game and really takes some skill VS AGG play.

i think if i was going to buy a new pump it would be one of these
http://www.arrow-precision.com/stock_class_stp_page.html - link



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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 03 December 2007 at 1:53pm
the new sterling looks hot, and I do think tippmann should leave pump to the professionals....Carter, CCI, Palmers, and CCM (not it that order or anything, those are just the big 4 in my mind). I really dont see open class declining, there is a big scene out in cali and what not, besides, sniper pumps are like the "agg" rage right now on pbn. I am a carter whore though, 2 and counting.

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Smart Parts, Stupid People... Go figure

Shoot To Thrill on stockclass, mcarter, and the dreadful pbn
Carter Mini Comp, Carter Tricar, PPS Blazer



Posted By: Brianwawrz
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 11:59am
There is no need for Tippmann to make another pump. The c3 isn't
pretty becuase it wasn't supposed to be pretty, it was supposed to be
rugged and reliable. I just purchased a c3, and I love it. Not having to fill
co2 tanks but having the reliability of Constant Air or Nitro is a huge
advantage. Tippmann just made an outstanding pump. Why do we need
another one?


Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:30pm
Originally posted by Brianwawrz Brianwawrz wrote:

There is no need for Tippmann to make another pump. The c3 isn't
pretty becuase it wasn't supposed to be pretty, it was supposed to be
rugged and reliable. I just purchased a c3, and I love it. Not having to fill
co2 tanks but having the reliability of Constant Air or Nitro is a huge
advantage. Tippmann just made an outstanding pump. Why do we need
another one?


I wouldnt call it outstanding, every used one I have seen for sale used has had problems. that and it looks huge and heavy, Can't run a small tank on it, meh.

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Smart Parts, Stupid People... Go figure

Shoot To Thrill on stockclass, mcarter, and the dreadful pbn
Carter Mini Comp, Carter Tricar, PPS Blazer



Posted By: Sinister_TES
Date Posted: 07 February 2008 at 1:20am

Originally posted by Policia Policia wrote:

Ya I read it, and again he needs to do his homework, I have seen more open class players than stock class, I think stocklass is going down hill these days, so there is not that many SC players, But a crap load of Open class, so I was just merely making a point that tippmann should have one more, I mean if lapco brought back the grey ghost iam sure tippmann can bring back a new and improved SL. Trust me if the gun was cheaper than phantoms and carters alot more people would buy it. most of the people I play with who play pump want to see another tippmann pump. 

i think the reason stock class is going down hill is becuase new players can go pick up ions for 200 bucks and shoot fast, so people are being drawn away froma  more challenging style of play, i would love to play stock except no one in my area does and i dont want to really compiet with egos and angels lol



Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 07 February 2008 at 2:48am
Everybody else doesn't have to be playing pump for you to use one.  I always take my phantom to the local woods field and normally play at least one game with it each day.

It was responsible for one of the more memorable quotes I heard on the field.  I flanked and eliminated a guy with an electro and when he saw what I was using he said, "You got me with a pump?  Man I suck!"

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Posted By: bmax
Date Posted: 07 February 2008 at 4:21pm

Originally posted by Policia Policia wrote:

wow people playing pumps are on a tight budget, ya thats it my carter costs me 700 and my phantom 350, plamer costs 1200, and my ccm S6 costs 600, so budget no i think not. plus theres a huge series for pump players OSC, and pump pandmonium at EMR. all iam saying is it would be cool, and very nice, cause i love the SL series they are awsome.

Wayyy too much money spent.  They all do relatively the same thing. 

And ditto all the other comments.  Tippmann has made a name for themselves with the 98, A5 and X7.  THe C3 was a failure in my eyes. 



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Posted By: pants500
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 2:41am

Originally posted by Brianwawrz Brianwawrz wrote:

Leave the pumps to CCI and Carter.

ahmen to that.



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E-grip with APE rampage board installed, JCS powertube, JCS rear velocity adjust,JCS Jet click cyclone feed mod, camo graphics kit, freak barrel kit, 4500 psi tank.

CCI Phantom


Posted By: gardy90
Date Posted: 06 April 2008 at 12:53pm
the only pump i have shot is the cheap ones from walmart.. lol i would love to play with a decent one in a game lol

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a-5
16" J&J ceramic
polished internals
X7 low profile hopper
costom painted 20 oz tank


Posted By: chaibill
Date Posted: 06 April 2008 at 2:08pm
Does the c3 only run on propane or can it take air.  If it takes air just get one of those.

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68 carbine
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 April 2008 at 2:15pm
Only runs on propane.

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 06 April 2008 at 2:34pm
Originally posted by chaibill chaibill wrote:

Does the c3 only run on propane or can it take air.  If it takes air just get one of those.


I modified mine to run off of methane and bought a case of baked beans.


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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 06 April 2008 at 2:40pm
If you want a decent pump, pick up a hornet/maverick.

They work pretty well and require minimal maintenance.

Or you could always be like me, and build a Sniper from scratch.


Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 06 April 2008 at 6:30pm
I regret selling my A.T.C.I. TM-11A.  Never should have gotten rid of it.  It was a great pump.

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Posted By: jubba
Date Posted: 12 April 2008 at 11:47pm
 Tippmann wouldn't even have to make a pump to make me happy. If they rereleased a 68 carbine I'd buy one. It could basically be a smaller 98 and could use the act technology.  There could be a higher end version that uses the etrigger from the x7. 



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