Break an Entry
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Topic: Break an Entry
Posted By: karalem
Subject: Break an Entry
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:19pm
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I was kinda wondering if anyone thinks this is obsurd that i am 13 and iv
break n entry been to court almost got a felon and now have 30 hours of community service. im sure everyone right now is like this is bull. But it wasnt a house on like a main street in a neighberhood and wasnt me and 4 of my friend scoping out a house for a month it was this house that we could hardly see from the street but when we were trying to take a shortcut through the woods we found a old overgrown abandon house door unlocked half open and moldy we thought it was so cool because we went in there was a bunch of stuff to brake so we went there twice just to kill time and brake windows and random stuff in the house when i guess someone heard and called the cops we were all arrested for break n entry in the day got a court date which draged out for my of my summer (07) luckly i got off without a felon and 30 hours of community service but the bad part is the fact that cops didnt even go in the house and look it so if anyone really read this all wondering what people think of a 13 year old being a arrested for something that sounds so serious. i no its a little odd to post on a tippmann forum but its a thoughts and opinion topic so i want your thoughts and opinions. |
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:24pm
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1: Don't get caught. 2: If you find something cool and abandoned in the woods, stake it out for a while before you go exploring. What if you'd discovered and awoken an angry pedophilic hobo who lived in that shack? Time spent watching and getting info is never wasted when you're adventuring. 3: Punctuation and apropriate capital letters are your friends. 4: ??? 5: Profit. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:27pm
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little hell raiser. Why don't you go play video games and smoke opium. ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:28pm
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I can see why you would do that kind of stuff because apparently you don't go to school enough to learn proper grammar. That's my opinion. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:30pm
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I was going to translate that into normal speech but it was fairly taxing.
You admit that you were in a house that doesn't belong to you, breaking things that were not your property, and you're upset that you were charged with a crime? It sounds serious because it's a crime that you should have known not to break. You're lucky to only have community service, and the point of it is to drive into your head that it's not ok to do what you did. If you want to do something like that, fine, but you have to be willing to pay the price for doing so. ------------- 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:30pm
| eye cnt reed wht ur seyng cuz u took liek a rtard |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:30pm
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It's a shame there's no actual Grammar Police. Then you WOULD have gotten a felony. But in response to your situation, you and your friends were breaking and destroying property that didn't belong to you. Even if it was run down and dilapidated, it wasn't yours. If you were my kid, you wouldn't be going anywhere unsupervised for the next 40 years. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: karalem
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:32pm
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ok i relized i didnt really use grammer or punctuationbut i was rushing and
we were around it for a while only going into the shack outside the house and we knew no one was there and really we didnt think of it was illegal just something to do and there were 4 of us me and my friend ran other two got caught told on my little jerks |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:33pm
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Good look in life.
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Posted By: karalem
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:35pm
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also think of it this was if you see a soda can on the side of the road in front
of someones house but not on it and you step on it would you expect to get in trouble |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:37pm
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hXc ------------- 
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:37pm
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That doesn't follow. A piece of trash on public property does not equate to a house, as run down as it might be. And crushing that piece of trash on public property does not equate to repeatedly visiting and trashing a house that clearly does not belong to you. -------------
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:38pm
Worst analogy, ever. ------------- |
karalem wrote:Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:41pm
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Guys, stop picking on him. He is obviously cool because he did after all break stuff in an abandoned house, and then got arrested and avoided a felony. He's so cool. -------------
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Posted By: karalem
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:46pm
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True to what you people are saying but really the only part i was annoying
about of the whole this is the fact the cops didnt even go inside the house becuase the owner (lives on other side of town left proptey go) said i dont want the police to get hurt. |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 10:55pm
why would it be any different if cops went inside? as an owner of a vacant house little brats like you are very annoying. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 09 October 2007 at 11:35pm
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This is why highly addictive video games and websites are good for today's youth. Had you been mindlessly playing Xbox all day, you wouldn't have been mindlessly trashing someone's house. At least with the former option, you would've been increasing your scanning ability and reflexes. ------------- 
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 12:10am
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Burglary is a no-no. ------------- 
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Posted By: Grammar Police
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 12:28am
Or is there? He will be placed under arrest as soon as my mod privilages kick in. ------------- 
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Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 12:34am
or furiously working out your right arm. ------------- 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 1:11am
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Some of us are lefties, man. |
Posted By: 636andy636.
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 1:12am
Just like I'm doing ------------- [IMG]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v291/anthonymartinez/402cdjo-1.gif"> |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 7:28am
And kid, your an idiot. Breaking into a house and doing all that doesn't make you seem cool. Feel lucky you got off with only community service. ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:12am
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Listen kid, whether the cops step inside the property or not doesn't matter. The fact that you went into an abandoned property probably has little to no bearing on the fact that you were arrested, charged, and sentenced. It was the vandalizing of said property that got you those charges. Had you just been exploring the place and didn't decide to break the windows or abscond with any property inside the house, you probably would have either been scolded by the property owner or at most, been charged with misdemeanor trespassing. Willful destruction of another's property is NEVER alright and if the judge didn't force you and your friends to pay restitution for the property damage on top of your community service hours, then he should have.
As for your friend telling on you, GOOD! When the whole drug-dealing and murdering idea of "stop snitching" makes it from the ghetto to 13 year olds, then something is wrong. You friend who told did the right thing. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:15am
Good word. -------------
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Posted By: kuhndog599
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:18am
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Not your property. Stay off. Simple as that. ------------- model 98 - homemade handguard solid stock - opsgear mag polished internals homemade sling - paintjob operator barrel progressive barrel opsgear mag - stock |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:31am
That's what I get for having an English prof. for a mother. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:50am
Breaking and entering. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 11:16am
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And while you are at it, stay off my lawn. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: TheWrAith
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 11:25am
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" I would of had all of you shot"-The Wall Like others have said, not your place, not your stuff, not your property. I suppose so, we did stupid stuff like that when I was young, never breaking other peoples stuff tho, but more like nicker knocking, we did that up untill the day on halloween I was with some people who did one house, over and over again, next thing we know the guys walking down the road with a shotgun.. that was the last time I was ever with a group of people like that.. |
Posted By: Mephistopheles
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 12:27pm
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You did some dumb stuff and got caught. Deal with it. Maybe next time you'll actually think about your actions before being dumb, and realize that there are consequences for those actions you chose.
But hey I'll stop by your house and bust out the windows. It'll be just like me kicking a can down the sidewalk. It's not mine so what do I care! ------------- http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=166647&PN=1"> 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 1:50pm
What is absurd, is that you're 13 and write like that. ^^^ ------------- 
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 3:31pm
Yea definitely. His e-peen just went up +8 and his bad-assery quintupled. Your 13, and you thought you were tough breaking into a house. You broke stuff that wasn't yours, and probably went to middle school the next day and in between snack time bragged about how cool you were, some one heard, someone ratted, and now your screwed. You chose to do it, which was stupid because there was absolutely no point, no agenda and nothing in there to profit from-and you got caught. Get caught again, and it's almost guaranteed your getting a felony, which will suck hardcore because when your old enough to get a job, apply to college, ect, you will have to put a little check mark in the "felon" box of every application you fill out. gg, looks like your on the road to success.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 3:41pm
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I'm not even gonna read all the replies, you did something stupid, we all have. The difference is you got caught. Now instead of acting like all the other ball-less 13 y/o kids man up and take responsibility for your actions. when i was 11-15 i did so much stupid stuff, rarely did the cops get close to catching us but if they did i would take the punishment, same for school the principal would tell new teachers all the time that if I'm accused of something i did i was one to serve up to it, not make up excuses and cry like most kids do... ------------- 
Come Get Some ! |
Posted By: Ben Dover II
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 3:44pm
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Your first mistake was telling us you are 13, now you wont get any respect
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. Your second mistake is the missing punctuation. Your third mistake was being born. lol im just kidding.Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 3:47pm
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Pssht. This kid was treated unfairly.
If the house is abandoned or not occupied then it is fair game to those that come across it. It is just like leaving litter or trash. If you still want something, take it with you. Dont just abandon it. ------------- 
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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 3:52pm
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 3:54pm
How do you know nobody wanted it ? Maybe it was a lot they where planning to restore the house ? Not to mention the idiot kid went into break crap. -------------
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 3:55pm
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You and kickinwing brothers? ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:02pm
I think I would be in more trouble (at home) for ratting someone out than doing whatever I did. Never snitch, and I don't know nothin' about nothin' lol. -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:06pm
I can use both hands. The right is for quickies and the left is for if I have a while. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:11pm
If your wanted to keep it, put up a fence and post, "No Trespassing" signs. So what if he broke stuff, it should not have been accessible. It is the owner's responsibility to keep people out and protect their stuff. Otherwise it is fair game. -------------
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:17pm
The owner shouldn't have to worry about that kind of stuff, if you went to the corner store for some bread or something, came back and found you house broken into, smashed up and destroyed, you would call the cops, how would you feel if the cops said well we can't help you its your own fault someone broke into your house and destroyed all your stuff for now good reason. -------------
Come Get Some ! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:20pm
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The owner didnt do that in this case did they?
Like the kid said the owner had abandoned the property. -------------
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:35pm
The owner most likely didn't know what was happening, and someone was a good neighbor and called the cops to stop the destruction. and the kid is 14 or whatever, i wouldn't doub tif were not getting the whole story. -------------
Come Get Some ! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:38pm
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Regardless of the facts of the incident.
If your leave your stuff unprotected and unsecure, expect it to get messed with. That is part of life. And what entitles someone to property in the first place. If it is not in your possession, it should be up for grabs. -------------
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:44pm
But someone did own it, if you owned a mobile home(trailer) and someone brought a truck and towed it away, you would be mad. Someone owns that house it was their stuff. -------------
Come Get Some ! |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 4:51pm
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You dont own it if you abandon it. -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 7:59pm
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WHo takes Hades seriously? Jesus H. Christ.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:08pm
Horsepower does obviously. I was enjoying observing some good chain pulling, but you had to go and ruin it.  -------------
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:21pm
Psshh...NO! I would have taught him how to not get caught. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:32pm
Well, it was rather funny. It was just so ridiculous I had to say something. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:33pm
You ruin things. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:37pm
It's what I do. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:38pm
Oh...well at least you know. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 8:39pm
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I do know. SOmetimes I try. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:49pm
Oh well that is no fun. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 9:53pm
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I had sensed some sarcasm but i know theres at least one person out there that sides with the 14 y/o.
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:00pm
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Oh well, I think we can all agree the kid got less than he deserved. But my
main question is, why would he come to the tippmann forums to post this? Does he paintball or is some one just trying to pull our leg? ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:02pm
Lol, irony -------------
Come Get Some ! |
Posted By: karalem
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:24pm
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ok i didint think this post would last this long to answer some of your
questions there was no no trespassing sigh we were smart enough to look for that. also another way to show the guy didnt care about the place or plan on restoring it was that he left intruments there some that WERE very nice till he left them there we didnt touch them. also it was overgrown and in the woods cant be seen from the street if anyone missed that. |
Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:26pm
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My neighbors house doesn't have a no trespassing sign on it.
Fair game, sweet. |
Posted By: karalem
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:27pm
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ya but he lives there he didnt live there or even close and wasnt locked door
broken/open. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:28pm
Hell Yeah, that is how I got my computer and flat screen TV. Occasionally, I go in and grab a few beers. Also, I find it ironic that most likely your 30 hours of community service will be picking up other people's abandoned property, ie... their trash, just like the house was. -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:29pm
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I will say it once more. You are an idiot. End of story.
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Posted By: karalem
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:32pm
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Ok didnt really expect most people to think i was some baddass or
something just wondering what you say btw to answer why i posted this on a tippmann forum i was waiting for help with my flatline and decided to see what you guys would say. |
Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:36pm
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I dont think your an idiot.
It could have happened to anyone of us. I am sure most of the people ridiculing you are guilty of similar offenses and just had to have been lucky not to have been caught and under the guise of internet anonymity pick on others in an attempt to raise awareness to their imagined superiority. -------------
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Posted By: karalem
Date Posted: 10 October 2007 at 10:39pm
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i pretty sure i wouldnt of gottten caught if 2 of my freinds left there
backpacks behind a bush out front and if we let them they had there names on them so those to tryed to get them and me and my other friend ran. of cousre they got caught wasnt mad for them telling on my through i propley would of done the same thing. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 8:09am
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Don't do the crime if you can't do the time. -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 8:37am
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 8:42am
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l2spell
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 9:46am
have=/=of there, their, they're let=/=left to, too, two my=/=me though=/=through propley? tryed? Jesus H. Christ. get off the forums and go play with a Mr. Spell. ------------- 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 9:53am
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 10:31am
Burglary* -------------
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 11:24am
no* Burglary is the unlawful entry of a structure and committing, attempting to commit, or intending to commit a felony therein. since misdemeanor vandalism isnt a felony, it wasnt burglary. -------------
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Posted By: Forum Police
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 12:05pm
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<cough> ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 12:55pm
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 1:59pm
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So that's what happened to my TV and computer. I want them both back. I hadn't noticed the beer, so I guess you can keep that; but, I do want the "No Trespassing" sign back that went missing the week before the other stuff. -------------
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Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 4:09pm
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Finders keepers. ------------- 
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 4:57pm
No* Criminal Law, 9th Edition, Joel Samaha-- Two main crimes of invading someone else's property, homes, and other occupied structures (Burglary) or invading other property (criminal trespass) are crimes of criminal conduct, they DO NOT require causing a bad result. Burglary in the third degree is defined as "a person commits the crime of burglary in the third degree if he knowingly enters or remains unlawfully in a building with intent to commit a crime therin" OR for the book impaired. http://criminal.findlaw.com/crimes/a-z/burglary.html - - Burglary is typically defined as the unlawful entry into almost any structure (not just a home or business) with the intent to commit any crime inside (not just theft/larceny). No physical breaking and entering is required; the offender may simply trespass through an open door. Now lets not going into mens rae of the whole thing, it will just bore people. They don't use the term breaking and entering because what about the times that something doesn't have to be broken? An unlocked door, or an open window? -------------
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 6:10pm
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Instruments? What kind of instruments could be left in a run down house and still be in good condition? a washboard?
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Posted By: Grammar Police
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 7:37pm
<cough> -------------
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Posted By: Ken Majors
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 7:42pm
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He'll be fine.
Once he gets into the system and is rehabilitated. ------------- RLTW |
Posted By: karalem
Date Posted: 11 October 2007 at 8:32pm
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the intruments that were there a guitar rotted out, trumpet and a flute
atleast thats all we found |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 5:19pm
*no http:// - According to the FBI The Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines burglary as the unlawful entry of a structure to commit a felony or theft. I guess it could differ at the state level. -------------
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 6:18pm
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Linus is right, if you just enter a house with the intent to chill it's not burglary.
And to eville The Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines burglary as the unlawful entry of a structure to commit a felony or theft. You have to prove they had intent to commit a felony or theft, not that they just were breaking in. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 12 October 2007 at 6:35pm
what? i was saying the exact same thing as the UCR, except i forgot to mention theft. linus was just saying that entering with the intent to commit any crime is burglary, which in his state, it may very well be. i dont think anyone said that entering with the intent to chill was burglary -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 13 October 2007 at 12:02am
The sheer fact that they are "breaking" in is mens rae (criminal intent) and actus raeus (criminal act). That is, of course, unless it falls under the "lesser of 2 evils" doctrine... it's below zero outside and you have to break in to avoid freezing to death. You'd be held accountable civilly for anything broken, but no burglary took place. Look at most (or all) states' penal code and they will not have "Breaking and Entering" as a crime. Why? Because, again, what if nothing has to be broken to get in? -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 13 October 2007 at 4:45pm
Three words: Florida Boot Camp! -------------
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 13 October 2007 at 7:09pm
Two years in a federal PMITA prison. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: __sneaky__
Date Posted: 13 October 2007 at 7:12pm
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$20 says that never actually happened. ------------- "I AM a crossdresser." -Reb Cpl Forum Vice President RIP T&O Forum |
Posted By: Ken Majors
Date Posted: 14 October 2007 at 12:02am
...and....we're gonna ughhh....need you to go ahead and come in on Sunday too....(in my best Lumberg voice). He is definately gonna be showing someone his "O" face. ------------- RLTW |