Seriously, what the hell?
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Topic: Seriously, what the hell?
Posted By: Benjichang
Subject: Seriously, what the hell?
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:01am
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/7052155.stm - Story
This is scary. I wonder how often things like this happen. CIA arrests some guy on false charges, flies him off to Syria and have him tortured for 10 months, then realize they were wrong and apologize...
I'm awestruck by this.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:15am
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Poor guy.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:18am
Paraphrase: "We're sorry you were wrongly imprisoned for 10 months and tortured, but hey... these things happen. We're not going to stop."
That's just so very special.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:18am
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hahaha sucks to be him. Dont be labeled as a terrorist i guess.
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:20am
lol so since we have laws against torture... we just spend the money to send him to syria, then supervise the torture.
fantastic.
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:25am
Kristofer wrote:
hahaha sucks to be him. Dont be labeled as a terrorist i guess. |
Also don't be a Islamic extremist.
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 9:28am
i think we should do this for christian extremists too...
just for fun.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:18am
All religious extremists are annoying as hell. As are the Atheists who constantly try to mock Religions.
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Posted By: DGAFmuffinZ
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:57am
At least he got 10.2 million.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:57am
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Da Hui wrote:
All religious extremists are annoying as hell. As are the Atheists who constantly try to mock Religions. |
Yeah this forum has a lot of athiests who think they are better than people of religion.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 11:03am
DGAFmuffinZ wrote:
At least he got 10.2 million.
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Interesting idea... would you endure torture for 1 million a month? I'd be pretty tempted. Maybe this is where reality tv is heading.
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Posted By: Slap Shot
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 11:14am
If only we really knew...I wonder how often this happens where we don't hear about it, or where the people being tortured actually die.
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 12:03pm
reifidom wrote:
DGAFmuffinZ wrote:
At least he got 10.2 million.
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Interesting idea... would you endure torture for 1 million a month? I'd be pretty tempted. Maybe this is where reality tv is heading.
| A mil a month... Geeze might as well just call me an extreamist. Ill do it lol.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 12:16pm
So... he was sent by our government to our enemy... so our enemy could help us, their enemy? And he has no proof of this, no marks on his body?
That makes sense...
I mean, I don't deny that it's possible that he was detained for a long period, it's happened... but sent to Syria and tortured...call me naiive, but I need the proof.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 12:30pm
Linus wrote:
So... he was sent by our government to our enemy... so our enemy could help us, their enemy?
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It is called "extraordinary rendition."
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 1:21pm
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Linus wrote:
So... he was sent by our government to our enemy... so our enemy could help us, their enemy?
| It is called "extraordinary rendition." | AKA "Foreign Policee made E-Z!"
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 3:01pm
Linus wrote:
So... he was sent by our government to our enemy... so our enemy could help us, their enemy? And he has no proof of this, no marks on his body?
That makes sense...
I mean, I don't deny that it's possible that he was detained for a long period, it's happened... but sent to Syria and tortured...call me naiive, but I need the proof. |
Yea Linus - Canada shelled out 10.2 million, just for the hell of it.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 4:55pm
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For a million dollars a month I think I'd take a lot of tourture.
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Posted By: Mephistopheles
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 7:51pm
I want to be labeled a terrorist and tortured for a couple months.
The guy is getting 10 mil outta it!
Of course it'll end up being about 6 mil after taxes but still.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 7:58pm
Don't forget, he wasen't sure if he would live or not.
He probably didn't think he'd ever get out and torture would continue.
Could you live with that for months?
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Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 8:15pm
what a paycheck
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:04pm
*Stealth* wrote:
Linus wrote:
So... he was sent by our government to our enemy... so our enemy could help us, their enemy? And he has no proof of this, no marks on his body?
That makes sense...
I mean, I don't deny that it's possible that he was detained for a long period, it's happened... but sent to Syria and tortured...call me naiive, but I need the proof. | Yea Linus - Canada shelled out 10.2 million, just for the hell of it. |
Canada =/= USA.
Again, just because CANADA pays him, and a couple of representatives say sorry, I didn't see anything concrete.
And MBD, I know what it's called, I can read the article just as well as you can. Your words mean nothing to me. Again, we send someone to our ENEMY so that they can help US, THEIR ENEMY. This makes sense to you?
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:13pm
I'm betting the 10 mil will be mostly spent on therapy and anti-depressants.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 19 October 2007 at 10:22pm
oreomann33 wrote:
I'm betting the 10 mil will be mostly spent on therapy and anti-depressants.
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aritcle wrote:
Canadian police had labelled him an Islamic extremist. |
I'm betting on bombs and AK's.
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Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 2:38am
Canada has no credibility. I mean, come on.
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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 2:53am
the said thing is, is that this happens a lot. (well not along the same guidelines with the whole wrong guy thing)
it's illegal to torture people in teh US so they will send them somewhere were it is legal. It's sick, I know, and some of the criminals are just as sick, but sometimes it just seems like they push it to the max.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 4:04am
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sporx wrote:
this happens a lot |
Cite instances plox.
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 5:38am
Let's not pretend this is just US, this is everywhere. Not saying it's right, but to pull the American corrupt card is naive...
Hell, The military will send people through SERE school for a almost two months. My AIT instructor had both his forefingers broke during interrogation when he was joining a special forces unit.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 9:40am
HTY, exactly.
I don't like how the BBC makes it seem like it was the US' idea, when they don't offer any evidence (except for a couple of apologies) and Canada is the one that ends up paying him... meaning they probably had a big hand in the matter.
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Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 3:03pm
Linus- Don't get me wrong, I think the US knew exactly what it was doing, but it goes on everywhere. You can't change it, just don't be under the impression that the US is the only country that does it...
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 20 October 2007 at 7:33pm
Heres To You wrote:
Linus- Don't get me wrong, I think the US knew exactly what it was doing, but it goes on everywhere. You can't change it, just don't be under the impression that the US is the only country that does it...
| That is no where close what I was trying to come off as having said.
I know many countries do it... but no one else thinks it's weird that
A) We get help from our ENEMY WILLINGLY
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B) Canada was the one that paid the money, but we apologized?
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