Motorcycle Accident
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Topic: Motorcycle Accident
Posted By: Yeoman
Subject: Motorcycle Accident
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 10:17pm
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Don't want to beat a dead horse here, but for all you who ride motorcycles, please remember to be extra cautious on the road. A good friend and shipmate of mine was killed in an accident early this morning on base. His wife was riding with him, she was also killed. He has 3 kids (all from previous marriages) and we're still trying to figure out who gets custody for each child. If it's not too much to ask, keep his family in your prayers. It's a damn shame, he was only 25 and just married his wife 3 weeks ago. ------------- 
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Posted By: hybrid-sniper
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 10:48pm
| And what were the circumstances of his death? |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 10:50pm
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too bad. R.I.P.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 10:53pm
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I actually think its the other way around People in cars need to watch out for bikes more. I see people get right up a bikers ass and drive like complete jackasses around them for no reason. Anyway, RIP ------------- 
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 10:57pm
the end result is, sadly, still the same. you are responsible for your own life. sorry about the loss. ------------- 
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Da Hui wrote:Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 28 October 2007 at 11:20pm
And I see just as many bikers think they can cut between cars like they weren't even there. It's on both sides. ------------- 
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 12:33am
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I'm supposed to buy an R6 this month. ------------- 
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Posted By: Yeoman
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 8:05am
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They still aren't sure what happened, there wasn't anything obstucing the road and the base police got to the scene a couple minutes after it happened. They think there might have been a deer or animal in the road and he tried to avoid it. Nothing is for sure yet though. -------------
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 9:24am
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I just responded to a motorcycle accident yesterday. The biker was alright, they took him to the hospital for some back and wrist pain, but he wasn't too badly hurt. My brother lost a friend a few months back to an accident, the kid was doing 90 when he ran head on into a truck. Be careful on them. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 9:28am
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 12:04pm
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Well at least they died together, if that helps at all in some kind of Hollywood movie kind of way.
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 2:25pm
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That sucks, I know a lot of guys who get hurt all the time on them, and a few that died as well. Last month my friend's younger brother got messed up bad, almost died, and a while back another freind came up in a wheelie, bike fell back, and **crushed** his leg. It wasn't broken, it was in like 200 chips, so it's metal plates and stuff in there now. They are definitley no joke.
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 2:46pm
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Sorry for your loss.
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 3:17pm
Hopefully not for your first bike |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 3:18pm
qft ------------- |
Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 3:40pm
He will be fine as long as he has some kind of experience and doesn't get a power trip and want to crack it open on the freeway like a lot of idiots. -------------
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 8:23pm
Hopefully its not his first bike. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 9:00pm
there's nothing wrong with getting a sportbike as your first. as long as you respect it and know your skill level, its perfectly fine. -------------
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Posted By: Roweazie
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 9:01pm
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R.I.P Hope those kids well be okey.
I got this grapic pic's of motorcycle accident (if anyone want to see it, pm me). They said the motorcycle guy was speeding well above 120MPH. The driver said, "I got hit so hard, it felt like a truck hit me" and he couldn't stop the eighteen wheeler 1/4mile later. ------------- 
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 9:06pm
Do you ride? Ever ridden a sportbike? They are not forgivable, easy to ride learners bikes, thats for damn sure. Even if you have ridden dirtbikes your whole life. Don't get a Type R bike as a first bike. You can respect a bike all you want, but if your in a oh **** situation and grab too much brake or freak and turn your wrist your going down, quite quickly too. |
Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 9:12pm
I want to get a sports bike when I am old enough, but I know me...and I will be that idiot. I know my personality, and I have a ways to go before I get a bike, I know I am not responsible enough lol. I would definitely be wailin out constantly if I had that much power, that much potential speed, and one wrong move or a pebble in the road at that speed, game over. -------------
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 10:27pm
i do ride, i have a honda nighthawk 750. it doesnt matter what kind of bike you have, you freak out and grab too much brake or turn your wrist, you're going to go down. i have several friends who had sport bikes for their firsts and learned on them just fine. its all about knowing your limits, and what to do in different situations. -------------
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 10:41pm
Sport bikes are even more sensitive than most bikes out there, especially the throttles. Last thing you want on a beginner bike is a sensitive 1/4 turn throttle. Least with a 250 if you grab too much gas you wont fly off the back. Plus they are easier to maneuver than a sportbike, insurance is cheaper and they are generally more forgiving. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 10:55pm
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that all may be true, but thats not to say that it cant be done
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 11:02pm
It can be done, its just not a smart idea and not highly recommended; Plus, Dumping a $1200 bike with in a week of owning it VS dumping a $13,000 bike in the first week of ownership. What would you choose? |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 11:05pm
Super sport bikes are most definitely not beginner bikes. Extremely sensitive throttle & brakes, aggressive riding positions, and a lot of weight != beginner. Besides that, the learning curve of a smaller cc bike is much more gentle than that of an RR. Knowing your limits isn't really even an excuse. Accidents aren't on purpose. ------------- |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 11:35pm
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sportbikes are generally lighter than most bikes, sans 250s. to say that knowing your limits isnt an excuse because accidents arent on purpose is just refusing to take responsibility for your actions. if you ride responsibly, within your limits, you're much less likely to find yourself in an "accident" situation. theres no reason why a beginner cant learn on a sportbike, especially one of the 600cc models, as long as they arent retarded. -------------
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 11:39pm
... I give up. ------------- |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 11:46pm
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i win
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 29 October 2007 at 11:58pm
Somone that does not know how to use a clutch or shift gears on a bike should not learn on a sport bike. Even if its a 600, they still have 100+ HP and power to weight ratio is through the roof. Its just too much of a bike for a noob. Ever watch people learn to ride? its nerve wracking enough watching them on a beginners bike. Newbs panic and either grab the brakes or throttle, or even both. That almost ALWAYS results in trouble. Best thing to do is get a small POS bike and learn on that, then upgrade to your skill level. Learning gradually is the key. Experienced mature riders will never recommend a type R bike as a first bike. Accidents can happen even if you don't put yourself in dangerous situations. Does not matter how experienced you are, accidents can happen when ever you ride. Starting out on any type R bike is bad idea. End of discussion. |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 12:11am
I guess stubbornness and ignorance is win than? ------------- |
Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 12:21am
| I know like 6 buddies who have all started on 600cc sport bikes when they were 18-19, all but one are fine. But the one guy i know who got in an accident wasent his fault, a truck had ridden through a red pretty much t boning my buddy. |
Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 12:31am
| Everyone knows somone who started out on one and lived. Natural selection has not quite perfected its self yet |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 1:02am
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or maybe it has, as the ones who lived were the ones who respected their bikes instead of riding around like they were moto gp champs
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:12pm
Or people may just be better than you give them credit for. ------------- 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:16pm
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I know somebody that had their license revoked for gettng caught doing 180+ on the highway. Crazyness. Thats suicide IMO -------------
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:23pm
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Suicide on the highway, track not so much. ------------- 
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:26pm
... The former is the much more likely situation. ------------- |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:35pm
Not really, no. It sounds all awesome to say, yes, but it is entirely possible to own a sportsbike without much motorcycle experience and still drive responsibly. -------------
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Posted By: Horsepower
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:40pm
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Some people have the skill to control speed and power, others don't. It's not IMPOSSIBLE for someone to start out on a R6 or even an R1 and be fine.
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:43pm
I never said it was impossible. However, once again, operating a bike with less power and one that is more forgiving is much easier for beginners, and strongly suggested. ------------- |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 3:49pm
Agreed. I was simply going against the sentiment that if you own a sportbike as your first you somehow automatically explode. -------------
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 7:42pm
| Ya, bikes are pretty dangerous and personaly im scared of them i'm only 15 but I remember when i was driving my pocketbike down a highway doing catwalks...I know im a dumb ass what can i say, and this pocket bike, It a dragbike so it could do about 140km but I was doing a good 120km passing cars wile having my front wheel up and I accidently gave the bike to much gas and i went over the back fell off sliding about a kilometer then finally went into a ditch and layed there bleeding. All I had on was a motocross helmet with leather pants and a leather coat and dirtbike gloves which didnt do anything and my leather jacket didnt do any thing. My arms were all cut up same with my legs. my body was bruised real bad and I thank god that i wasnt hit by a car........ Also bike was in bad shape..But i was so used to doing wheelies down the road...heck i could do them for kilometers. But I got cocky and screwed up almost loosing my life. But I learned the hard way. |
Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 7:49pm
| Please do not lie about how fast you were going. 120 km/h is a far stretch for a pocketbike |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 7:50pm
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you slid for 1km? that would mean you slid, at a constant speed of 120km/hr for no less than 30 seconds...coughcoughBScoughcough -------------
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 7:56pm
I think the BS meter went off when he said top speed of 140 km/h |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 7:57pm
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I stopped reading when he said he was riding a pocket bike down the highway doing cat walks.
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 8:30pm
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Once he said it was a pocket bike accident , I took it as a joke, then realized he was serious. And a kilometer = .62 miles, and i don't care how fast you were going, you don't slide more than half a mile on pavement. And no way is a pocket bike doing 140km, people like you annoy me so much. Pocket bikes don't even have enough balls to pop into a wheelie without a lot of pull on the handlebars and a lot of gas, they are 50 cc's for crying out loud. -------------
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 8:49pm
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but they do have a very short wheel base and light weight which makes it easier to just lean back and wheelie... at least thats my assumption, never ridden a pocket bike
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 8:52pm
This is true, but it's still 50 cc's and with a 100-150 pound person (which I'm assuming he is at 15) it doesn't ahve the get up and go to pull up. From a stand still, I'm sure it can, but it's not just going to pop up when your riding it and give it too much gas. -------------
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Posted By: Jason Doering
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 8:54pm
| ok go to youtube and watch pocketbike dragrace if u dont believe me there going way faster then 140 km and yes i kind of exaturated about sliding a km but it felt like it. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 9:11pm
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i checked, none of them looked like they were going near that fast. link?
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 9:30pm
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http://www.badbros.net/minidragbike.html - http://www.badbros.net/minidragbike.html Ok, this one has a 4 stage nitro kit and excessive amounts of mods, and pushes 70 mph, and 70 miles/hour = 112.6542961520511 kilometers/hour. I can guarantee this bike is faster than yours, and it can't even do 120 km/hour like you claim to be doing on a wheelie, let alone the top speed you said of 140 km/hour, which according to this guy's calculations, who I believe because of the time he spent upping his, the 10 inch wheels can't handle much faster than 115 km/hr, let alone 140 km/hr. Sorry for the long post, but this kind of exaggeration/story telling annoys the piss out of me. -------------
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 9:33pm
Imagine the speed wobble on a pocket bike. Since 90% of them are made cheaply and I doubt the frames are straight and true. |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 30 October 2007 at 10:14pm
Well if you're going to put a stage 4 turbo onto a pocket bike I'm sure that it isn't your run of the mill bike. ------------- |