My First Cocker (Update Nov 21)
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Topic: My First Cocker (Update Nov 21)
Posted By: kurieitaa
Subject: My First Cocker (Update Nov 21)
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 6:45am
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Well i got my first autococker on tuesday, yes it's stock! http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/04ProstockRight.jpg"> I started to tinker with it a bit, Im still trying to get a list of parts i want to upgrade on it. http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/paintremoval01.jpg"> I want to make this thing fast, I am still working on how i want to mill this allso, yea any ideas? 12 November Well i started to mill the back today, not much i can do till i have accsess to a mill, hoping this weekend. http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/mill01.jpg"> 16 November Well this is what it looked like with the grinder only...looks like poop. http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/mill03.jpg"> but yea you can do anything with any tool, inless you got time and patience. but it would be nice and faster with the right tools tho. [NOTE: This picture is befor i used a file and sand paper] 17 November Well i finish the mill work, behold "stick_boy_2002's" younger brother... http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/millfinal.jpg"> http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/mill04.jpg"> http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/mill05.jpg"> I did all of this with a grinder (1/4th thick), metal file and sand paper. Would be way easyer if i had access to the mill :( 20 November Well i Started to polish it, it's starting to look sexy... http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/polished00.jpg"> http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/polished01.jpg"> for some reason the camera isent captering the shiney :( Last Post For Pics, Untill i get the parts on... 21 November http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/polishedfinal.jpg"> Better Polished Picture. ------------- 
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Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 9:16am
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Looks nice I love the look of that silver and blue. ------------- 
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 9:18am
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You could have picked a worse Cocker to start with. Those old WGP hinges were quite smooth. As far as making it fast, your best bet would be to find an old Raceframe and a Nexus LPR and Ram. Also, MQ valve it after you get the E-frame and it, and a ZeroB board if you get the E1 frame.
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Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 12:39pm
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thats essentially what i started with when i did the Venture cocker. it looks nice with blue/silver.
youll also find out that as you upgrade it you will have alot of leftover parts sitting around the house in boxes. ------------- 
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Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 1:27pm
| you should search for the thread "building a cocker." i started the thread with a similar request, and tallen posted a huge list of what to upgrade on a cocker. |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 2:41pm
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Welcome to the club. RACE frame sounds like what you are looking for.
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 4:53pm
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You did a vary sweet job on it allso, and you are one of the 3 people that made me buy one lol. -------------
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stick_boy_2002 wrote:Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 5:32pm
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Not too shabby... get it from Actionvillage? I just got a cocker from there. I like the coloring on yours though. I got the tactical b/c I am into woodsball/scenarioball. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/"> 
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 5:43pm
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I was going to get one from action village, but a friend spot one out near my place. I allready cover the millsim part and i neaded a turny gun. Some of my friends are in the woodsball, but when there busy there friends play speedball only, so i needed a faster gun so i can play them lol. Im still working on getting a good pump tho, so i can cover all games lol. -------------
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 7:09pm
I would say the MQ Valve is not necessary... but once set up they are pretty sweet *.44, or EVO, or MP4 ram *Oracle Tickler or Palmers Stab. * any e-frame (race and e2 are the best) *orange bolt *mad-man rocket valve (or any other low pressure valve) ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97 
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Posted By: b_mid
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 7:28pm
Yea me too. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 9:16pm
MQ isn't necessary, but you can up your cps really quickly with one, and it's a little more efficient since you have a lighter mass to push back so you can run the lpr a lot lower. As for the reg... seriously man, AKALMP is where it's at when you aren't running CO2! As for the LP valves, AKA and Shocktech RAT 3:16 are my two favorites. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 11:06pm
Are you ever going to get rid of that 80lbs 'Trix and get that Race Frame Merlin? ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 08 November 2007 at 11:41pm
Buying it off of Picasso a week from tomorrow. It'll still weigh 80lbs though until I get a 45/45 for it. It's the armageddon and Auto-spirit that do it, never the marker. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 09 November 2007 at 8:58pm
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I love the blue/silver. ------------- 
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 09 November 2007 at 9:08pm
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I am going to start cutting the back tomorrow, i got to get rid of that hump. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 November 2007 at 11:14pm
Yeah, I always wondered why they continued using sight-rail extrusions on markers that they designed for speedball. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 3:57am
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Dident the 2003 and under have some sort of ring loop or flat back on them? Well anyways it's gone. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 9:21am
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Nah, they've always had a sight rail, they just were flat rather than milled down in places. Even if you look at my first-gen black magic IAO Body, it still has bits of the sight-rail next to the feed neck. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 7:30pm
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 November 2007 at 9:24pm
Yeah, but it doesn't make any sense since after 2003, they quit producing right and left feed markers and all of them were straight vertical feed which block the dorsal sight picture. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 2:12am
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Well i started to mill the back today, not much i can do till i have accsess to a mill, hoping this weekend.
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 8:26am
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Midblock it.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 8:58am
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That looks really sexy from that angle. Just make sure not to close the hammer-lug adjustment hole on the top of the marker with anything, otherwise you won't be able to get to the hammer to time it. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 10:58am
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thought the newer cockers were all already timed up. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/">
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 11:28am
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They are. And guitars are tuned from the factory as well.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 12 November 2007 at 11:55am
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They're set pretty well out of the box these days, and with the Trilogies, there's a lot less tuning, but with a full 3-way and a good hammer lug, you can set the fire and re-cock points almost anywhere in the pull of the trigger. My personal 'cocker has trigger stops behind the slide plate as the pull is only 3mm from resting to fired and re-cocked. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 16 November 2007 at 12:52am
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not bad... any ideas on Re-anno'ing it?
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 16 November 2007 at 1:51am
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Well i got a few ideas kicking around, but i havent decided what to use yet. Ill see if i can come up with a layout for you guys. -------------
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 16 November 2007 at 6:59am
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Well here is one layout, still working on it... http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/8906/idea01vr8.png"> But i might scrap this one, dont know what i want done yet. I got a friend near my place that has an anodizing setup, maybe ill get it ano'd here faster. -------------
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 17 November 2007 at 5:59am
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Well i finish the mill work, behold "stick_boy_2002's" younger brother...
I did all of this with a grinder (1/4th thick), metal file and sand paper. Would be way easyer if i had access to the mill :( -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 17 November 2007 at 9:11am
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Nice none the less, reminds me of a "spanky" body. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 17 November 2007 at 6:15pm
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Wow! Very nice work. I was also reminded of the Spanky body. Any more thoughts on the anno?
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 17 November 2007 at 7:05pm
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I am sooo tempted to pick up a cheap 'cocker and go to town on it with a grinder, dremmel, and file now. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 17 November 2007 at 10:18pm
You would be old man. Can't you ever just be happy with a gun?  -------------
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 18 November 2007 at 12:12am
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You got to have alot of patience, a few times i thought i ****'d it up but the file fixed that :) -------------
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 18 November 2007 at 2:58am
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Well this is what it looked like with the grinder only...looks like poop.
but yea you can do anything with any tool, inless you got time and patience. but it would be nice and faster with the right tools tho. [NOTE: This picture is befor i used a file and sand paper] -------------
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Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 12:41pm
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that looks like it took you a very long time, it looks good though. -------------
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Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 12:44pm
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it does look good. it doesnt leak air does it. loooks like you took it right to the edge. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/">
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 19 November 2007 at 1:50pm
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Thanks man, and thanks again for letting me try your idea out :)
Nope dosent leak. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 10:59am
you can mill a 'cocker top-tube as far forward as the front of the feed-neck as the air-path is sealed to the breech and barrel by the o-rings on the bolt with the close-bolt system. You can also mill the bottom tube all the way forward to the back of the valve body if you want since there's no need to create a seal for blow-back gases as there are none. Cockers can be skeletonized very easily with no ill effects. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 11:55am
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Well i Started to polish it, it's starting to look sexy...
for some reason the camera isent captering the shiney :( Last Post For Pics, Untill i get the parts on... -------------
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Posted By: b_mid
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 1:10pm
| That looks super nice! Good work. |
Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 1:18pm
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looks good. you have some skills with the grinder and polisher man. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/">
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 2:00pm
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Thanks man, lol i get lots of pratice with the grinder, i have to make do with what i have. Well the picture dosent show the mirror finish well :( , thats only the first coat, im going to do 4 more to make it insane shiny. lol i came up with a name for my gun "Silver Nitrate" but in a month or so i should have all my upgrades on it, and ill post it for you guys. My goal is to make the cocker god's and the revolucion proud :) -------------
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 2:04pm
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Wow. Have you decided to keep the polished look or are you planning to re-anno it? Plans for it?
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 2:20pm
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I think im going to keep it polished, because i cant decide what ano i want for it lol. -------------
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 5:47pm
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I like how you left the blue on the indented areas. Looks good. -------------
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 6:45pm
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Thats because i got tired of sanding, when i was done i knida liked it that way, i was going to make the whole body silver....but yea i got lazy. -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 7:23pm
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I agree that the blue depressions in the marker are what make it look so good. Solid silver wouldn't have been a good choice. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 20 November 2007 at 8:40pm
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Good thing lazy wins for me. -------------
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 2:33pm
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Better Polished Picture...
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Posted By: nu cidd
Date Posted: 21 November 2007 at 8:05pm
| Thats awesome. I'd buy it. Good work. |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 22 November 2007 at 2:01pm
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lol thanks. Im going to keep this, too much hard work into it and it aint even done yet. -------------
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