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Topic: Sooooooo
Posted By: Kristofer
Subject: Sooooooo
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:06pm
I AM GOING TO IRAQ AND YOU ARENT! HAHA!
I was told 95% chance I am going today at the special december drill. I am very very excited. I know you are all jealous so HAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:07pm
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Make sure you get some before you come back.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:07pm
Stay safe, don't do anything stupid, and if you ever find yourself enjoying yourself you probably aren't being careful enough.
When do you deploy, and for how long?
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Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:08pm
I'm so jealous..
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:10pm
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Activated in May. In Iraq in October. Return like following May in 2009. When I get activated it'll be training like 24/7 which in itself is bad ass. I'll finally fit my definition of bad ass when I get deployed so I am pumped about that.
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:11pm
Bolt3 wrote:
I'm so jealous..
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:17pm
Kristofer wrote:
Activated in May. In Iraq in October. Return like following May in 2009. When I get activated it'll be training like 24/7 which in itself is bad ass. I'll finally fit my definition of bad ass when I get deployed so I am pumped about that. |
Five months of workup training, eh? Not as bad as I've heard of some U.S. units getting.
We've been training since September, deploying to Kandahar in August. The fall was fairly low key, but it should pick up quite a bit in January.
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-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:19pm
good luck
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:24pm
Wow, you yanks sure sound like your excited about being shipped off to die in a desert.
The patrioticness of Americans blows me away sometimes
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:25pm
You seem so gung ho right now. I'll bet you wont be so happy when you're two months in and some stuff has (or hasn't) happened.
Don't get me wrong, I'd actually love to be shipped there too. Though it's extremely dangerous and often traumatizing, it's just another one of those life experiences that would add to my experience of the world.
Be safe.
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:30pm
You live up to your title of "good sport" hahaha. Good luck over there, make the best out of it.
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:32pm
Have fun, but not to much fun and make sure like every one else has said to be safe.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:39pm
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 5:56pm
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How far we've come from people dreading something like that in Vietnam. I'm not exactly sure how "fun" could be used but good luck.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 6:04pm
.636 wrote:
Wow, you yanks sure sound like your excited about being shipped off to die in a desert. The patrioticness of Americans blows me away sometimes
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Are we naive and ignorant or what?
Last I checked, not everyone dies in Iraq. Not even freaking close. Do a little research next time before you make yourself look like an ignorant fool.
And thanks for the well wishes everyone else.
Brihard, what do you mean about the other training US troops get?
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 6:04pm
Kristofer wrote:
.636 wrote:
Wow, you yanks sure sound like your excited about being shipped off to die in a desert. The patrioticness of Americans blows me away sometimes
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Are we naive and ignorant or what?
Last I checked, not everyone dies in Iraq. Not even freaking close. Do a little research next time before you make yourself look like an ignorant fool.
And thanks for the well wishes everyone else.
Brihard, what do you mean about the other training US troops get? |
I've heard many accounts of guys getting six weeks of pre-deployment training.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 6:09pm
brihard wrote:
I've heard many accounts of guys getting six weeks of pre-deployment training.
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 6:16pm
good luck over there and stay safe
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 6:28pm
choopie911 wrote:
Sucks for you |
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 6:51pm
Kristofer wrote:
.636 wrote:
Wow, you yanks sure sound like your excited about being shipped off to die in a desert. The patrioticness of Americans blows me away sometimes
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Are we naive and ignorant or what?
Last I checked, not everyone dies in Iraq. Not even freaking close. Do a little research next time before you make yourself look like an ignorant fool.
And thanks for the well wishes everyone else.
Brihard, what do you mean about the other training US troops get? |
Ok, is this better "Yay I'm getting shipped off to the middle east to protect my country, but I'm not really even protecting my country"
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 6:59pm
Good luck, and stay safe. Try to make the best of it. Oh yeah, and definitely take some pics for us. I love looking at http://militaryphotos.net/ - militaryphotos.net
Get some out there for us back here.
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Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 7:22pm
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Kristofer wrote:
I AM GOING TO IRAQ AND YOU ARENT! HAHA!
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Actually I will be in a couple months.
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 7:33pm
choopie911 wrote:
Sucks for you |
Pretty much.
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Posted By: DzXs
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 7:38pm
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have fun supporting isreal
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Posted By: battlefreak
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 7:47pm
.636 wrote:
Kristofer wrote:
.636 wrote:
Wow, you yanks sure sound like your excited about being shipped off to die in a desert. The patrioticness of Americans blows me away sometimes
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Are we naive and ignorant or what?
Last I checked, not everyone dies in Iraq. Not even freaking close. Do a little research next time before you make yourself look like an ignorant fool.
And thanks for the well wishes everyone else.
Brihard, what do you mean about the other training US troops get? | Ok, is this better "Yay I'm getting shipped off to the middle east to protect my country, but I'm not really even protecting my country" | You really are the fourm E badass!....
Anyway good luck, stay safe kris.
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Posted By: FROG MAN
Date Posted: 08 December 2007 at 8:21pm
you have been brain washed good my friend.
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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 4:03pm
Wow it's amazing how many civvies on here are actually functionally retarded.
Good luck, brother. I hope you smoke, cause them arabs will do anything for a free cigarette...But if you don't now, you will when you get there. Same thing goes to Bri.
That's why I started. If a rocket don't don't get ya, cancer will....hahaha!
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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 4:30pm
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 4:42pm
Best of luck.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:04pm
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good luck, stay safe...unfortunately i still have 4 years of rotc before i can start training for going over, but by that time we'll probably be out.
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Posted By: What to do?
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:05pm
.636 wrote:
Wow, you yanks sure sound like your excited about being shipped off to die in a desert.
The patrioticness of Americans blows me away sometimes
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:06pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
but by that time we'll probably be stuck somewhere else so I'll be shooting those people
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Fixed.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:08pm
jmac3 wrote:
GI JOES SON wrote:
but by that time we'll probably be stuck somewhere else so I'll be shooting those people
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Fixed.
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sad but true
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:14pm
evillepaintball wrote:
jmac3 wrote:
GI JOES SON wrote:
but by that time we'll probably be stuck somewhere else so I'll be shooting those people
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Fixed.
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sad but true
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nice way to twist what i said...by the way, you're welcome.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:21pm
What should I be thanking you for?
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:23pm
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for the fact that you or your kids or relatives dont have to go and do it. just think, a total stranger to you could die instead of your brother.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:25pm
My cousin has gone to Afghanistan, and I wouldn't thank him.
There's no reason to be there.
I'll commend you for wanting to go somewhere that I will never go and joining the army for protection if we ever needed it, but I will not thank you until the military actually protects the country.
Sounds kind of hateful towards soldiers, but I am not.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:28pm
are we defending the country in a direct way? no. did we retaliate somewhat hastily after 9/11? maybe.
either way, the insurgents/terrorists obviously don't like us...so how much worse do you think it could be if they came here instead of us going there?
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:30pm
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No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:32pm
rednekk98 wrote:
No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
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Was there a reason? Yes
Still a reason? Probably not.
Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:34pm
Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:40pm
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GI JOES SON wrote:
either way, the insurgents/terrorists obviously don't like us...so how much worse do you think it could be if they came here instead of us going there?
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That's a bit over the top. The world is the battlefield now, so fighting terrorists in another country does not effect them coming into our country. It's already been shown that our borders are still easy to cross, the war in Iraq wouldn't deter a terrorist from coming here and attacking a civilian target.
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 5:52pm
DzXs wrote:
have fun supporting isreal |
You been sniffing the zyklon B again Fritz?
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:02pm
jmac3 wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
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Was there a reason? Yes
Still a reason? Probably not.
Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.
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if there was a reason to be there then thats why we're there...we're still there because even though the main objective might be completed, we need to stay there to ensure it remains balanced.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:05pm
figured it would only be amatter of time before it got to this. i expected it sooner though
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:10pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
jmac3 wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
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Was there a reason? Yes
Still a reason? Probably not.
Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.
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if there was a reason to be there then thats why we're there...we're still there because even though the main objective might be completed, we need to stay there to ensure it remains balanced.
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Stay there to keep it balanced?
We can't even protect our own borders.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:13pm
jmac3 wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
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Was there a reason? Yes
Still a reason? Probably not.
Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.
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So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.
The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.
40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.
The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.
Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.
Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.
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-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:23pm
brihard wrote:
jmac3 wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
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Was there a reason? Yes
Still a reason? Probably not.
Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.
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So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.
The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.
40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.
The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.
Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.
Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.
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I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.
I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading.
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:28pm
jmac3 wrote:
| I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading. [/QUOTE]
Are you going to take your internetz and go home now?
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:29pm
Good luck, stay safe. Don't do anything stupid.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:47pm
jmac3 wrote:
brihard wrote:
jmac3 wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
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Was there a reason? Yes
Still a reason? Probably not.
Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.
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So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.
The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.
40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.
The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.
Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.
Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.
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I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.
I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading.
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...So if I get this right, you concede that you know nothing about what you're talking about, yet insist on maintaining your opinion anyway?
Uh, OK I guess. At least I admire your honesty.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:49pm
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I can tell you I much rather the fighting stay over there.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 6:58pm
brihard wrote:
jmac3 wrote:
brihard wrote:
jmac3 wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
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Was there a reason? Yes
Still a reason? Probably not.
Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit.
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So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.
The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.
40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.
The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.
Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.
Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself.
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I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.
I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading.
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...So if I get this right, you concede that you know nothing about what you're talking about, yet insist on maintaining your opinion anyway?
Uh, OK I guess. At least I admire your honesty.
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Pretty much.
And Johnnyhopper?
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 7:04pm
.357 Magnum wrote:
I can tell you I much rather the fighting stay over there.
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We're not fighting in Afghanistan to keep the fighting over there, nor is the war in Iraq to keep war out of America. You're deluded if you think that a military conflict over there will prevent terrorist action at home. Ask Britain, Australia, or Spain about that.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 7:05pm
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you're right, we do have a problem with our borders. that doesnt mean we ignore other problems that exist
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 7:06pm
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Never said anything about a reason, was just saying I am glad there isn't a war going on in my country.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 7:08pm
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i was referring to jmacs post about us being overseas but not taking care of our borders
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 7:08pm
jmac3 wrote:
brihard wrote:
jmac3 wrote:
brihard wrote:
jmac3 wrote:
rednekk98 wrote:
No reason to be in Afghanistan? Care to elaborate?
| Was there a reason? YesStill a reason? Probably not.Being there only gives terrorist organizations fuel to recruit. | So extraordinarily incorrect my eyeballs may pop.The NATO ISAF force is there at the request of the Karzai government. The role of ISAF (international security assistance force) is to stabilize the nation and provide security while the Afghan government rebuilds their social and political infrastructure. A parliament has already been assembled, and a military and police force are being trained. The military training is going well; the police not so much. The Afghan National Army are conducting offensive operations sometimes without ISAF forces in tow now, and the are included in nearly every ISAF mission. Concurrently, NATO provincial reconstruction teams are delivering aid, rebuilding infrastructure, providing medical outreach, and working with the locals at the village level to determine how NATO can help the individual people.40 nations are involved in the coalition, including 12 that are not NATO members. It's not some unilateral operation by the United States.The initial invasion was reprisal for Taliban collaboration with Al Qaeda and its networks, as well as Osama Bin Laden. Since then the mission has evolved to help rebuild one of *the* most shattered nations in the world. Maybe you don't feel like thanking the troops there, but then you already had running clean water, electricity, an education, and human and civil rights. Those people living there are much happier to give thanks to NATO members for what's being done.Terrorist organizations will recruit regardless of what's going on. There are enough disenfranchised young male Muslims to provide a steady stream of recruits into the Madrassas (radical religious schools). These kids are the ones who end up being sent into fights they can't win, or blowing themselves up in a marketplace. We're there to go after the bastards leading this, and to try to improve the conditions that cause that desperation in the first place.Try doing a bit of research before you spout off that forty nations are doing something for no reason. You won't make quite a fool of yourself. | I'm not going to deny that I know nothing, therefore you win.I still stand by what I said though. Even with your long reading. | ...So if I get this right, you concede that you know nothing about what you're talking about, yet insist on maintaining your opinion anyway?Uh, OK I guess. At least I admire your honesty. | Pretty much.And Johnnyhopper? |
Umm what?
I was impressed in a similar way. Usually when someone shows up at a gun fight with a q-tip, they run away. Not you though :)
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 7:11pm
LOL... 'Showing up at a gunfight with a q-tip'. That's classic.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 7:15pm
what movie had the line "leave it to a wop to bring a knife to a gun fight"?
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 7:18pm
Posted By: Heres To You
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 8:49pm
Congrats man, I should be deploying out myself here in a few months.
.636- I'm in an aviation unit. Not infantry or anything like that, and we lost 6 soldiers out of our last deployment.
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country". It's people like you who sit behind a keyboard and criticize but will be the first ones to complain the second a right is violated.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:04pm
Heres To You wrote:
Congrats man, I should be deploying out myself here in a few months.
.636- I'm in an aviation unit. Not infantry or anything like that, and we lost 6 soldiers out of our last deployment.
Go
to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
It's people like you who sit behind a keyboard and criticize but will
be the first ones to complain the second a right is violated.
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I was done, but whatever.
I didn't say THEY weren't serving their country. I said the MILITARY isn't serving the country. There is a difference, and you know it.
I also didn't criticize people going, nor do I care when my "rights are
violated". I will let the government tap my phones, search me at
airports, hell they can check my house if they want. I say this
because, I know I'm not doing anything wrong.
So infringe my rights, because I'd rather deal with that than pick up the paper and hear about people dying.
My post came out wrong, I was saying the government will send you soldiers to another country that we shouldn't be fighting in. Afghanistan was brought in only because I mentioned my cousin.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:06pm
I can't decide what is worse about this thread:
Andy's idiotic trolling, or the fact that people still believe the war in Iraq is "protecting America."
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:08pm
Heres To You wrote:
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
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They were serving their bosses.
They were not protecting America in any way.
Sorry, but the truth sucks sometimes.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:09pm
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Heres To You wrote:
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
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They were serving their bosses.
They were not protecting America in any way.
Sorry, but the truth sucks sometimes.
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I think it sounds better the way I put it:
"I didn't say THEY weren't serving their country. I said the MILITARY isn't serving the country. There is a difference"
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Posted By: hoginds24
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:12pm
jmac3 wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Heres To You wrote:
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
| They were serving their bosses. They were not protecting America in any way. Sorry, but the truth sucks sometimes. | I think it sounds better the way I put it:"I didn't say THEY weren't serving their country. I said the MILITARY isn't serving the country. There is a difference" |
They are/were serving their country because its what we asked them to do.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:13pm
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Heres To You wrote:
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
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They were serving their bosses.
They were not protecting America in any way.
Sorry, but the truth sucks sometimes.
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privates work for NCO's, who in turn work for Generals, who in turn work for the government, who works for the people. The people make up the country...
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:14pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Heres To You wrote:
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
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They were serving their bosses.
They were not protecting America in any way.
Sorry, but the truth sucks sometimes.
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privates work for NCO's, who in turn work for Generals, who in turn work for the government, who works for the people. The people make up the country...
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That's cool.
You "serve" the country in that way, this is true.
Still doesn't change the fact that the war in Iraq did jack-diidly-squat for protection.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:17pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Heres To You wrote:
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
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They were serving their bosses.
They were not protecting America in any way.
Sorry, but the truth sucks sometimes.
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privates work for NCO's, who in turn work for Generals, who in turn work for the government, who works for the people. The people make up the country...
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You skipped that the General's work for the Pentagon, the Pentagon works for congress/president, and congress/the president work for "the people"
The same people who the majority voted against the president, and the majority don't want you people going to Iraq no matter how gung ho you are.
I would say it's your choice to go, but you're saying you work for the people.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:40pm
Man Bites Dog wrote:
GI JOES SON wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Heres To You wrote:
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
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They were serving their bosses.
They were not protecting America in any way.
Sorry, but the truth sucks sometimes.
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privates work for NCO's, who in turn work for Generals, who in turn work for the government, who works for the people. The people make up the country...
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That's cool.
You "serve" the country in that way, this is true.
Still doesn't change the fact that the war in Iraq did jack-diidly-squat for protection.
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well thats different, the WAR is doing nothing, not the military. we're just told to do it, which in turn semi-supports what you said but that reverts back to what i said and working for the people.
and jmac, i was giving an overall view of rank, if i went through all of them i would have to go through E1-E10, CW1-5, and O-1 to O-10. i saved time.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:55pm
GI JOES SON wrote:
we're just told to do it, which in turn semi-supports what you said but that reverts back to what i said and working for the people.
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That's nice, but I am not really arguing this point.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 9:58pm
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fair enough. im tired of arguing about it too to be honest. that and the "i can turn you agnostic thread". thats another argument i cant stand even though i have no say in it.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 10:01pm
And yet another thread turns into a silly debate. GG guys.
Kristofer, good luck, and stay safe.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 09 December 2007 at 10:12pm
The military doesn't just exist to defend the country (or the Constitution depending on how specific you want to get), but to serve national interests. Those national interests are the results of government policy and the geopolitical dynamic. It's simplistic and incorrect to try to argue against Iraq simply by saying that it isn't doing anything to defend territorial America.
That's not to say I personally support the war in Iraq - I don't - but the government at the time felt it was in the national interest to invade; that at some point was there was a tangible future benefit for the U.S. if it got involved in Iraq. Seems that they muffed that something awful, but that doesn't change the fact that the Iraq war was passed 296-133 in the house, and 77-23 in the senate. The military and the soldiers faithfully executed their duty according to the legislative will of the government. That's how a constitutional republic works.
The military does not exist to make national decisions, it is merely among the executors thereof when the national interest requires that force be used. You don't join the military to defend your country, you join to serve it. There's an important difference.
Don't like it? Tough cookies. Welcome to the real world...
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 11:41am
jmac3 wrote:
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Heres To You wrote:
Go to their families and friends they weren't "serving their country".
| They were serving their bosses. They were not protecting America in any way. Sorry, but the truth sucks sometimes. | I think it sounds better the way I put it:"I didn't say THEY weren't serving their country. I said the MILITARY isn't serving the country. There is a difference" |
we in the military, who make up the military are the military, so we are one and the same.
As for the war not serving any purpose and protecting our country, none of you have absolutely any idea. In ten years or so we'll see. As for now, while it is still ongoing, it would be naive to come out and say anything against the war at this time.
As for volunteering to go, I would have volunteered given the option, but my name was on a list. and that list is being told you are going, it matters not how we feel about that.
Curious, where do all of you retrieve your information on this war?
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Posted By: Panda Man
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 12:20pm
have fun, a friend of mine from the 1041 Infantry Division just came back, and he isn't the same, we went out and had a few drinks and he was telling me crap I really didn't want to hear, things like how in a convoy a Humvee a few yards ahead of him was completely demolished by a IED, when they stopped to make a defensive position, he saw "parts" all over the pace, and I could go into more, but I don't think how rape is forum appropriate.
Sad to think your "excited" also, you treat the iraqi's like trash, they can send you home in a brown casket as fast anyone else can. Stay sharp, and don't be a cowboy.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 12:23pm
Kristofer wrote:
As for the war not serving any purpose and protecting our country, none of you have absolutely any idea. In ten years or so we'll see.
Curious, where do all of you retrieve your information on this war? |
1) Kinda like how everyone saw how great and necessary the war in Vietnam was down the road?
2) Newspapers, radio, White House press releases, Military press releases, reading soldiers' blogs.
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Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 1:32pm
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Be safe Kris, I could be joining you next June. They tried to take me 5 times since I've been stationed in Dahlgren. Serving your country and making the ultimate sacrifice is something that some people will never understand, don't let it get to you.
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 1:40pm
Have fun dude. Get some for me.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 2:51pm
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Get some? Are we really still in that mind set to be the first one with a confirmed kill?
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 3:09pm
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Dune wrote:
Get some? Are we really still in that mind set to be the first one with a confirmed kill? |
It's obvious he is saying get some experience.

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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 3:18pm
Gatyr wrote:
Dune wrote:
Get some? Are we really still in that mind set to be the first one with a confirmed kill? |
It's obvious he is saying get some experience.

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I hope so.
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 3:57pm
Dune wrote:
Get some? Are we really still in that mind set to be the first one with a confirmed kill? |
Once we get rid of the indigs we can build strip malls
STRIP MALLS
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:11pm
Dune wrote:
Gatyr wrote:
Dune wrote:
Get some? Are we really still in that mind set to be the first one with a confirmed kill? |
It's obvious he is saying get some experience.

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I hope so. |
Me too. Hoping to kill another person is one of the most retarded mindsets anyone can get into, strained soldier or not. You klill if you absolutely have to, not to fulfil some sick barracks block fantasy.
Anyone here ever read On Killing or On Combat?
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:16pm
Kristofer wrote:
Curious, where do all of you retrieve your information on this war? |
Cousin in Military.
Family members with lots of experience in Military.
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:17pm
.357 Magnum wrote:
Kristofer wrote:
Curious, where do all of you retrieve your information on this war? |
Cousin in Military.
Family members with lots of experience in Military.
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Shut upa your face
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:22pm
Ticalxx421 wrote:
.357 Magnum wrote:
Kristofer wrote:
Curious, where do all of you retrieve your information on this war? |
Cousin in Military.
Family members with lots of experience in Military.
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Shut upa your face
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That was pointless ?
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:32pm
.357 Magnum wrote:
Ticalxx421 wrote:
.357 Magnum wrote:
Kristofer wrote:
Curious, where do all of you retrieve your information on this war? |
Cousin in Military.
Family members with lots of experience in Military.
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Shut upa your face
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That was pointless ?
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I'm sorry. Is that a question?
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:38pm
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Hope they IP ban you so you can't act up tonight and make another.
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:39pm
.357 Magnum wrote:
Hope they IP ban you so you can't act up tonight and make another.
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Hope a plane crashes into your face
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:45pm
Dune wrote:
Get some? Are we really still in that mind set to be the first one with a confirmed kill? |
He meant sex. Hot army sex.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:48pm
brihard wrote:
Dune wrote:
Gatyr wrote:
Dune wrote:
Get some? Are we really still in that mind set to be the first one with a confirmed kill? |
It's obvious he is saying get some experience.

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I hope so. | Me too. Hoping to kill another person is one of the most retarded mindsets anyone can get into, strained soldier or not. You klill if you absolutely have to, not to fulfil some sick barracks block fantasy.Anyone here ever read On Killing or On Combat? |
not yet, looking to order a copy soon, former gunny of mine highly recommended them.
so those who claim to actually read soldiers blogs, a) how do you know they are soldiers blogs?
b)the journalists and tv news and newspapers are not worthy enough to actually learn what happens in iraq. to believe anything they say other than a death count is pointless.
what military news sources do you read?
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:50pm
Kristofer wrote:
b)the journalists and tv news and newspapers are not worthy enough to actually learn what happens in iraq. to believe anything they say other than a death count is pointless.
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Not really.
TV news, yes, that is why I didn't list them as a source, but the rest of it you are a bit off with.
I am confused by what you mean by "not worth enough to actually learn what happens."
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:53pm
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Kristofer wrote:
b)the journalists and tv news and newspapers are not worthy enough to actually learn what happens in iraq. to believe anything they say other than a death count is pointless.
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Not really.
TV news, yes, that is why I didn't list them as a source, but the rest of it you are a bit off with.
I am confused by what you mean by "not worth enough to actually learn what happens."
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Biased, don't always get to see both sides.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 4:55pm
yeah i left a few words out i apologize.
generally extremely biased and not trustworthy. the only person who ive read recently that seems to be newsworthy and unbiased is michael yon.
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 5:13pm
2 Questions
Kristofer, are you allowed to get your own addons for your weapon such as sights, lights, etc?
and unrelated:
Will you or your unit need/want anything that they don't issue you? Silly string was one of those things that was pretty popular for a while. I'd like to try getting some donations for you to make it a bit more comfortable overseas.
If you can keep contact with us, I'll try to send your unit some goodies a little while after you get there (no freebies while you're still able to buy the stuff yourself back here). I've done it before back in high school and it seemed to have helped some soldiers there.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 5:27pm
Tolgak wrote:
2 Questions
Kristofer, are you allowed to get your own addons for your weapon such as sights, lights, etc?
and unrelated:
Will you or your unit need/want anything that they don't issue you? Silly string was one of those things that was pretty popular for a while. I'd like to try getting some donations for you to make it a bit more comfortable overseas.
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Yeah, good question to ask- and one he should be asking himself. Personally I'm in the market for a backup ironsight in case my optics foul up.
------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation."
-FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011.
Yup, he actually said that.
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 5:31pm
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i have no idea about add ons. beats me. until this weekend i wasnt planning on anything of the sort, but they took away my M203 and i almost cried...(sarcasm) but i seriously am wicked bummed about losing the 203. once i figure out those whole just an M16A4 i'll post a real answer, but that wont be until january haha when i have drill again. as for sending things, i appreciate the offer but i think for the most part we'll all be ok. they are much better with equipment than they used to be. everything we need is supplied. should we need something i'll be sure to post it, and thanks again.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 10 December 2007 at 6:02pm
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jmac3 wrote:
GI JOES SON wrote:
but by that time i'll be shooting communists anyway |
Fixed.
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I really dont know why people want to go to Iraq. Glad you want to, though.
Good luck, and hope you come back safe.
Edit: 1. Its pretty sad Brihard defended the war in Iraq and Americas current standpoint on the war when he is Canadian.
2. Those of you that claim that soldiers aren't supporting this country disgust me. I do not aggree with this war, and believe we must build up Iraq and GTFO, but never will say that those soldiers didn't support this country.
3. Completely unrelated, but are you allowed to install aftermarket stocks once deployed?
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