I have been playing with my SL 68II for years now and the people I play with are not pump players, their case o' holics. I love the feeling of some one spraying 300 rds at me and I pop out put out 3-5 rds and get them out. Any way I finally got a Phantom, I felt a little guilty not being a Tippmann. It is definately a different feeling very light and a much shorter pump stroke. I think that I miss the weight so much, compared to the SL, that I am adding parts like crazy. I am actually adding a Q loader to the Phantom inserted via the stock class feeder. No more hopper. The Tippmann just feels soo well made, like a little tank, like my Benz. Anyone else compared these two, Accuracy etc. I am not running a stock barrel on the SL, I am using a J&J ceramic 14".