Monthly Salvia thread
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Topic: Monthly Salvia thread
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Subject: Monthly Salvia thread
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:41pm
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So, my friend gave me a half gram of 20x salvia. I'm planning to smoke it over winter break, either alone, or with a friend.
Thing is, there is a lot of confusion as to the proper method for smoking it. Is it nessecary to: -Use a torch lighter to get it hot enough? -Use a water pipe? Other advice, or experiences? |
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:44pm
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Drugs are bad mmmmmmkay ? |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:47pm
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In before LOL MARY JANE.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 9:49pm
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Yes, you will waste it if you don't use a torch lighter.
Water pipes are not necessary. No not try to roll a joint though. Make sure you hold the smoke in your mouth for 30 seconds before blowing out. This is essensial. You will know if you are going to be halluciating or if it is just a body high 10 seconds after you blow it out. What I did the last time (which was months ago because I may never do it again) is smoke it and breathe it in quickly and deep. Count for 30 seconds in your head and as you do this, put the pipe or lighter down. At 20 seconds, lie down in a fairly dark room on somethign comfy. At 30 seconds, blow it out. It will probably take complete effect right away. I am the owner of the top forum salvia story. I may post up later but it's long and scary. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:02pm
For best results (which means either tripping at all, or feeling full effects) use both a water pipe (preferably bong) and a torch lighter. Also, HAVE A TRIP SITTER. ALWAYS. ------------- |
BARREL BREAK wrote:Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:03pm
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:03pm
Bong is not necessary, torch is. That is true, always be with a sober friend. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:04pm
How so? It is such a waste without a torch. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:05pm
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:06pm
You say you will waste it if you don't use a torch like it is some godly lighting mechanism. Regular lighters work just fine. All I am saying is don't go running out to a store and spend 5 bucks on a torch lighter just to smoke it. P.S Real men get it from the plant and eat it  ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:07pm
For best results I'd strongly suggest a bong. However, I'm sure a bubbler would work fine as well. And yeah, Carl's instructions are dead on. And to  erowid.Tic, you're wrong. Normal Bic lighters don't reach the same temperature as torch lighters, and being as salvia requires higher heat levels to be activated a torch lighter is nearly necessary. And you don't eat leaves, you let them sit under your tongue. ------------- |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:10pm
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I managed to get it to work with a normal lighter. I used a gravity bong with a very large screen so it could draw a lot of air and pack a huge load, the leaves are pretty dry so you have to burn a crapload of it but it did burn white-hot. I split two back to back 2 liter hits of the smoke that looked like chocolate milk with my sister(me taking most of them since I have better lung capacity) She immediately ran upstairs and freaked out, then cam back down, walked out the front door, ran to the back door and came back in to "make sure the doors still worked". I was told of this story later since I tripped balls. I felt like the hand of god slapped me out of known existence an into the macro-verse(to borrow a term from Stephen King's IT, the ritual of Chud was definitely trippy) where I landed in a smooth, endless blue lake, then Godzilla-sized sea hags erupted from it and began laughing at me(I'm guessing this was how my brain interpreted my sister's crazy punk friends) and then found myself falling up a tree and tried to grab branches to stop myself. About then I snapped out of it to discover that I was still standing by the sink where I'd had the gravity bong resting, my sister's friends were still laughing, and I was clutching the handles of the knives on the rack which I had thought were tree branches. But yeah, use a waterpipe and a torch lighter. I'd tried the gravity bong loads before and had to ghetto-rig a tinfoil screen that was perfect for airflow. I might try it again in a controlled environment using the extract, although I suspect it would be hard to clean the nasty-smelling residue out of a glass pipe as I don't know if an alcohol bath would remove it. Smoke it with a friend, or failing that, do it in a padded room. I've known people who've tried to climb out windows. |
Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:10pm
| yeah i've never used a torch lighter nor have any of my buddies and its worked out pretty darn good for us. So i would say its deffinatly not necessary. |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:12pm
| Agreed, I <3 Erowid, but I couldn't find this info there. |
Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:13pm
I have smoked salvia more times that I can even care to remember. BIC's work fine. Sure you can get a little more out of it, but like I said you don't need to go buy a torch specificly for that reason. You can eat them which gives you the same effect. I have read so much on this stuff, I know what I am talking about. So you guys don't get mad. If you have a torch lighter, by all means use that. But if you don't it is no big deal. ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:20pm
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Yes, it is. You are wasting your stuff without a torch. It will not reach the temp required to activate it. Sure, you can make it work without a torch but why would you? It takes twich as much stuff to get the same effects as from a bic.
Eating actually does work but barely at all. It tastes nasty and does nothing more than a body high plus it won't activate for hours. Like glassjaw said, the main method if you are actually willing to stick that crap in your mouth is to do it under your tongue. It's called a quid but I've never gotten it to work well. This makes me miss the 36 grams I bought last year. I am seriously considering posting my story just for the fun of reliving it. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:22pm
| Doooo it. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:23pm
| I've let it sit under my tongue for almost half an hour and barely got a body high. If you want to trip balls and not waste it use the approved methods. The body high sucks and just made me angry and get cold sweats. |
Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:30pm
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Like I said. BIC's work fine. however, like I also said. If you have a torch, use that. SmokingDry leaves can be smoked in a pipe, but most users prefer the use of a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bong" title="Bong - water pipe to cool the smoke. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum#_note-SiebertSmokeAdvice" title=" - [28] The temperature required to release salvinorin from the plant material is quite high (about 240°C). A regular flame will work, but the direct application of something more intense, such as the flame produced from a butane torch lighter, is often preferred. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum#_note-SiebertSmokeAdvice" title=" - [28] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salvia_divinorum#_note-SiebertFAQIV" title=" - ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:31pm
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This is not my good story but it is all I have time for for now.
My very first time actually doing it, I only got a body high but it was super intense. I was getting sucked to the ground and I couldn't do anything but laugh. It was nowhere close to the real effects though. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:45pm
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Have fun. I had a great time, the first time I tried it.
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Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 10:45pm
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20x won't be that crazy. you won't need a trip sitter for salvia. a torch lighter is necessary and therefore a waterbong/bubbler is needed imo. this is because using a torch lighter, the air you suck in is gonna be....yep really hot and you'll get that burned throat/lungs feeling before you finish the bowl. And yah 30 seconds is usually a good goal to hold it in (your lungs) for.
i usually like to do it with friends, just because it's more fun, and keep the lights low, and do it in a quiet place. i usaully shut my eyes, i see more then. oh yah... whole leaves are almost useless... |
Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 11:32pm
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Use a bong and a torch lighter. Take a huge rip, hold it in, set the bong/lighter down, then lay back on a couch and close you eyes. Exhale after about 20 seconds or so and you'll be gone. Have someone sitting with you just to help calm your nerves. The taste is putrid so have a Gatorade nearby. Good luck, have fun. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> 
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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 11:33pm
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I thgouht this stuff was either the best experience ever.....or the most horrible thing a person can undergo? Maybe this is another substance im thinking of....? ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 11:52pm
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Salvia is just so... juvenile. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 December 2007 at 11:55pm
Basically. there are a lot of misconceptions about salvia spread across the internet.
20X can get you just as messed up as anything higher. You WILL need a trip sitter. If you get full effects, you will have no controll over yourself or even be able to see what you are doing. Not kidding at all, you could see a knife, and think it's candy or something. I don't mind hot smoke. Then again, I've never used a water bong. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:00am
Not really. ------------- 
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:05am
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Didn't this get locked to start with?
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:18am
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Posted By: DGAFmuffinZ
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:33am
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I have Salvia in my room. 20x. Haven't done it yet though. ------------- 
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Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:36am
ok...you are wrong...have you ever done salvia or are u just expanding on trip stories you hear. a salvia trip isn't like a shroom or lsd trip. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:38am
Exactly how am I wrong would be a great start. I have done salvia many times From your post, it doesn't sound like you have ever gotten full effects from it. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:40am
| ok big guy...keep talkin. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:43am
Well... you were the one who told me I was wrong but failed to say where. Maturity is nice too though. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:47am
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lol...i'm not looking to start an argument with you. you are just wrong. salvia trips last what like a minute. and everytime i've done 20x+ i'm still aware that i'm tripping and that it isn't real. that is that i am aware it's a trip and wouldn't grab a knife or whatever. for me it's a visual trip that more or less goes away when i open my eyes.
however, a couple of my friends have done it when they were real real drunk, and then maybe... one of these friends tells a story how he walked out to the shed in the back of the house and sat down...next to himself... being really drunk and smoking a decently strong extract of salvia could do some weird things. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 1:04am
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Tippmannfreak, stop being a moron. Having a trip sitter is always a good idea. Just because it affects you one way doesn't mean it works the same for everyone.
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Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 1:08am
| simmer down.... is it really that different from one person to the other? i've never been compelled to actually get up and do anything stupid during a trip. what kind of crazy trips am i missing out on? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 1:09am
They last longer than a minute. Average is about 10-15 but that's all you will ever want especially if you are seeing something scary. Then you are doing it wrong. 20X will mess you up as bad as anything else will. If it is a visual trip only, than you are probably doing it wrong or your body has larger than normal resistance to it. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 1:12am
It does vary a lot between people. Some people can't get high at all off it. So much you are missing. It is impossible to explain it and have you understand. It will scare the crap out of you most of the time yet it is hard to explain why. I describe it as if you are wakign up but you wake up in a surreal, crazy world. You know that you shouldn't be there yet you can't figure out why you are. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 2:33am
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Ya really. To add, l2trip, noobs. -------------
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Posted By: TheWrAith
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:56am
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...Salvia...is evil... maybe if I would of known more about it I wouldn't of had such a bad trip, but I did and it was the scariest, craziest, most mind blowing thing ever, I didn't feel right for a few days after... I will try to sum up the best I can what I felt and went through, without sounding to crazy.. Took a big hit, whole bowl to my self, I think it was 10X "Yea from what im reading 10X aint that high, but it didn't matter... I held the hit in, then at first I noticed something coming, just that feeling, then it hit me, it felt like I was being sucked back into what I would consider, engine gears, I could feel myself being pulled through these gears, just imagine that, being pulled through 2 big gear wheels with the feeling of it happening, but with no pain... Then I started losing my vision, everything was tunneling and getting smaller, as I was falling backwards, it felt like my ... how do I say this... my being, my conciousness, if you could still see, but had no body, think of it that way, well this part of me, fell through "reality" and into a dark room, in which I was stuck for the remainder of the trip I could hear voices, most likely my friends... the next thing I know my friend threw me to the bed and just like that I was out of the trip. I was freaked pretty bad, and had the feeling of metal beads of sweat going down my entire body... I personally blame my friends for my bad trip, I was told I got off the bed, went into the closet, almost went out the room.. My cousin had a much more enjoyable trip so he told me, but then again I didn't let him off the bed or into a ..dark scary closet... Well he said pretty much the same stuff, he felt like he was being pulled from very far away, he told me he looked at me, and my head was melting into the bed sheet... Heres the cool part about his trip, I have a beach painting in my room, he said he looked at it, and all of a sudden, he was there, he said he could feel the sand on his feet, and hear the waves... Well about 5 minutes later he came back to reality, and looked pretty freaked, but not in a panic mode I was in. Like I said... I wasn't right for a few days... They say some people can't even get high from salvia, well I sure can, and I hated it... Sorry for writing so much.. hard to explain stuff like this.. P.s salvia= "Tha Deval!"
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Posted By: GhilleMan
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:03am
ya drugs fun...............  ------------- Smart Parts, Stupid People... Go figure Shoot To Thrill on stockclass, mcarter, and the dreadful pbn Carter Mini Comp, Carter Tricar, PPS Blazer |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:30am
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:53am
From the sounds of it, you didn't even get close to full effect. Yeah, me and my buddy found that 90% of the time, what you are looking at when you do it is what you hallucinate to. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 11:43am
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Trip harder.
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 12:45pm
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 1:50pm
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I dont care really, and I have nothing against carl or anyone, but how the hell is this allowed? ------------- 
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 1:55pm
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Because in most states it is still not illegal.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 3:55pm
It is legal in most areas of the world. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: MostHated
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 4:13pm
| smoke it in the water bong you will get the best high and the stronger hits. |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 7:32pm
| Even with reading all the countless threads on here about it, I have never really wanted to try it, but for some reason now I do. Where can I buy this stuff? Google has failed me. |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 7:41pm
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 7:59pm
Seriously, the internet was made for porn not drugs. Duh. ------------- My shoes of peace have steel toes. |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 8:19pm
There's a few gas stations around me that sell it. The Valero in the ghetto does.. They don't check IDs either :) Anywho, I would suggest a bong as salvia isn't the best tasting thing in the world, and a torch lighter is preferred but not necessary. The first time I did it, I broke out in laughter and everybody was like "what the hell, then somebody else took a hit, broke out in laughter, then the third did and we all just like stared at each other and laughed for five minutes. It's fun, but it wasn't as like mind opening as a lot of people make it out to be. ------------- 
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 8:28pm
Various online vendors, such as http://www.salviaextracts.com/ - http://www.salviaextracts.com/ or in head shops. Sammy, you probably didn't break through. ------------- |
Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 8:36pm
| I know it'll be illegal in Illinois come January 1st. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:05pm
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:12pm
| I really don't see the point in it being illegal. It's not likely to be habit forming, it doesn't last long enough to be a huge problem, you aren't going to do it while driving, and if anything it will make people terrified of having a bad trip with other hallucinogens. |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:13pm
All praise the US government. ------------- |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:24pm
There is no legal age to buy it. You can get it from smoke shops, gas stations, novelty stores, online and many other places. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:27pm
 this is the real deal stuff.... ------------- 01001001 00100000 01100111 01101111 01110100 00100000 01100011 01100001 01110101 01100111 01101000 01110100 00101110 00101110 00101110 |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:40pm
Cool. And not to derail the thread with my constant questions, but what is the recommended strength for a beginner? I read about this on erowid, but I don't recall it giving a strength recommendation. Also, erowid said that one usually smokes .2 - .5 grams per trip. Is this true? |
Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 9:51pm
Just try it out. Pack a medium-ish sized bowl and let err rip. If you aren't tripping in a minute, smoke more? Also, I didn't know there was no legal age for it. I guess because we were buying other things that require you to be 18 for. "Water pipe" FTW haha -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 10:30pm
Unless your state has some weird law, buying pipes has no legal age either. A good strength for a beginner is 20-40X. If you do it right, you can easily get full effects off 20X. Also, many places on the net seem to believe that the more you do it, the better the effects. How much you smoke depends on your concentration. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 13 December 2007 at 11:36pm
Here we have age restrictions on buying pipes. 18 and up legally. As for strength, just go with Carl. 20x should be sufficient. ------------- |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 12:17am
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That sucks for you.
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 12:22am
Umm, where do you live here in Canada where you can buy this stuff under the age of 16? ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 12:34am
I am not under 16. Anywhere in Canada, you can buy it I believe. If someone has refused to sell stuff to you in the past, it was either because of morals or because they didn't know it was legal. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 12:45am
I never said you where 16 or under. I have worked at hed shop and we where not allowed to sell to anyone under 16. ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 2:05am
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 7:36am
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Sounds like there are a couple things that need to be cleared up, so I'll weigh in here since I researched/experimented with it before.
First off, if you don't have a water-pipe, make one. A home-made bong is just fine for this stuff, and you're going to want the smoke cooled because it tastes horrible IMO. (If you need ideas, PM me.) As stated, a torch is preferable. I like to have one anyways because you can light them on windy days and still have control over the flame (no flickering in the wind like a Zippo/Bic/etc.). If you go get a decent one, it'll last you a while since they're refillable. It's not a necessity, but why not get the full effect? Salvinorin A is the main active chemical, and is psychoactively effective at much higher temperatures than most compounds. My experiences also tell me that a torch is the way to go; I always tripped harder. Whoever said "if it doesn't work, smoke more," is incorrect. It isn't like most drugs where it builds up in your system and becomes more powerful. You need to concentrate on taking as many hits as you can before you feel it. Try to take full-sized hits and you need to hold each in for 20-25 seconds. Usually I can barely force myself to take the last hit, and that's when I stop. I forget the exact time-frame, but you'll have roughly a minute to take hits before it becomes ineffective anyways. Once you trip and come down, it's basically a waste to smoke more until a couple hours later. The effects are greatly reduced for quite a while afterwards. I don't like to mess with that stuff anymore since it makes me feel like my body is on fire about 90% of the time I do it. I start sweating and wanting to take off clothes because it's just so hot, even in the winter outside in shorts (had to see if it would help; didn't help). That and I jumped off a 12-foot balcony onto pavement because "Dude, that doesn't look that high." ------------- 
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 7:44am
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Oh yeah, one more guideline.
Acid and Salvia isn't a good idea. Take it from me. -------------
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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 8:36am
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 11:25am
No, it is not a legal thing. They either won't sell to you because of morals or because they think it's illegal. Believe me, I have a mental map of toronto smoke shops.
That is store policy not legality. If it was legality, than it would be 18 but it's not. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 12:27pm
Really? None of the people that smoke anything other than cigarettes ever talk about it, ever. -------------
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 2:44pm
It's not a very common drug, at least around these parts; that is, in the sense that people do it often. As for legality, most states are pushing bills to make it illegal. ------------- |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 3:33pm
It's fairly common here. Not like a recreational drug but a lot of people do it once in a while. It is not illegal as of yet, and won't be for at least a few years. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: BradNowell
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 4:00pm
lol. Bics work fine. done it dozens of times with or without a torch lighter and the effects were the same everytime. Cant deny the truth. ------------- "When I travel through mountainous areas or places of questionable hillbilly population, I usually keep a gun in the vehicle" -Da Hui |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 4:04pm
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Carl, post your story. I believe I've read it before, but I want to see it again. Brad, Bics will work, however the full effects of the drug are much easier to attain with a torch lighter. Why not just go out and buy a torch lighter? They're not expensive, and they are refillable. Plus they are use-able on windy days. ------------- |
Posted By: BradNowell
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 4:07pm
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well i guess it will be easier to get the effects if you have a problem flicking the wheel on the bic.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 4:08pm
Well, and it won't make blacks think they can mingle with whites, so thats not a problem. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 December 2007 at 9:48pm
It works with a bic but it's just a waste without a torch. The effects are amplified alot. Even the sciency part allready posted here proves it. So you can't deny the truth.
Ugg... too lazy maybe later. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |