What is your race?
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Topic: What is your race?
Posted By: What to do?
Subject: What is your race?
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 10:32pm
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today, I was eating my capn' Crunch this morning catching tha saturday morning Cartoons! Anyways, I noticed that most cartoonjs focus on a white main character and wondered why is this? I mean this is America and teh governzment sez tat we are all equal and so why don't we have any Asian or African or any other main character? Oh yeah, back to the topic... what is your race? I was just wondering. Because maybe we are all just whiteboys *And 2 and a half women* trying to fit into a black society.... ------------- 
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 10:34pm
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 10:34pm
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People in america will never be racially equal.
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 10:34pm
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I've seen one black person here.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 10:35pm
if we're all equal, why does it matter if there arent any asians or blacks? ------------- 
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What to do? wrote:Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 10:52pm
i grew up in a white school. we had like maybe 3 black kids from K-12. it's not so much that were racist, it's just that it was a school in the countryside. Now, I go a black university and there's still white kids there. anyways, without being rascist the different races segregate naturally to feel more comfortable. whites sit up front and black people sit in the back. it's weird had it works after we are all free and it being in the 21st century. ------------- 
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Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 10:57pm
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i go to school with a lot of black people
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:03pm
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Technically white... but I'm more closely related to Asian people than European whites. ------------- 
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:05pm
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I had a black friend once.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:12pm
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my roomate last semester was black
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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:19pm
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I just discovered I had an asian friend I forgot about. ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:31pm
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I'm white.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:33pm
Even in a lot of northern states, if you go to a fast food restaurant, you will see 5 black people for every white person working there. Guess who the manager is? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:36pm
I'd punch you in the face if I could get away with it. -------------
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Posted By: Funky
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:39pm
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Gatyr's my best black friend.
We're like brothers from different mothers ... different coloured mothers ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:44pm
Exactly why? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:44pm
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Where I lived it was 98% white (according to the 2000 census). Basically raised my whole life in a predominantly rich white area.
Moved to Texas and now I'm the minority, and it does feel different... ------------- 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:44pm
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I just got back from Steak N Shake. There where a ton of Asian guys in there. The parking lot looked like a seen from the Fast and Furious. I have never seen so many Subaru WRX's and Scion tC's together in my life. Also, I am Irish. ------------- 
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:45pm
Racist undertones? EDIT: Insinuating the manager is the white person given nothing else is actually straight up racism. GG. -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:50pm
I don't see the problem there. Are you making the point that there still isin't a lot of racism prevalent in american society especially in social classes? or are you just arguing semantics for my particular example. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:54pm
Are you making the point that because it's still prevalent it is okay? But no, I merely expressed my desire to punch you in the face because you are racist. -------------
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:56pm
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 22 December 2007 at 11:57pm
I don't live that far from him. Pay pal me the gas money and I can do it for you. I will even youtube it. ------------- [IMG]http://i14.tinypic.com/73e0l8j.jpg"> Represent! |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:00am
No my point was that it is still prevalent. I insinuated this as a highly negatice point and I don't know why you missed that. How am I racist for saying (in a negative connotation)that there is still a large amout of racism prevailent in American society? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:05am
All Blacks and Asians look the same. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:07am
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You're an idiot. I'm not arguing with you, because you never see the point anyone else tries to make, and no matter what logic or argument is presented, you never accept anything anyone ever says. Enjoy your blissful ignorance. -------------
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:07am
arguing that your example was retarded, false, and based on no evidence. -------------
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:08am
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I hate how people state true facts or observation and then people bash on them for being rascist. I can be best friends with anyone as long as they have a good personality. I'm half mexican/half czech. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:11am
I hate how people make blatantly racist statements not based on fact, only on silly prejudices that are only held as true because of preconceived notions that hold no factual weight in any sort of discussion, and people defend that statement. -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:15am
So I should just accept your opinion that racism in America is good? I doubt that was your point but you have not explained yourself or made any other comments besides "you're an idiot" and threats to assault me. No, I always consider what the other guy is saying. If I am wrong, I will say so. So why don't you explain yourself instead of trying to make meaningless insults and threats and relying on popularity to get you by. edit:
Was that aimed at me? How exactly have I been racist or prejudicial in this thread? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:17am
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:21am
You said everyone that works at fastfood places is black, but their managers are white. Really not that hard to figure out. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:24am
Obviously speaking generally and less literally. My point was more to social status but you missed that I guess. How is me pointing something like that out a bad thing? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:24am
You're stated (note: not intended) point was that social and managerial status is related to ethnicity.
For the sake of brevity, I'll only answer you this: No. It was not aimed at you. You said that there is usually 5 black people to 1 white person working in a McDonalds, asking which we expect to be the manager, inferring you believe it to be the white person. Regardless of what you meant, it doesn't take any sort of intelligence to guess how that will be taken. -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:32am
Are you taking that the wrong way? My point was that the fact that the manager is usually white and the people in lower positions were usually black. I meant this in a negative way. My point was not that the white person was a manager because black people are always less qualified or something (I think you are taking it this way) but that the white person is often in a higher position or class because of general underlying racism in America. I don't understand how this could be take poorly unless you either: -Are misunderstanding what I said -Belive that racism is not still a problem in America edit:
Often, it is but not for the reason that I think you are taking this. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: scrumsguy
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:32am
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I live in BC so there are tons of asians (like over %15 of the comunity) but my race is definately NASCAR ------------- Help support the Youth In Asia! Member Of Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:34am
In Toronto, white people are quickly becoming a minority. Multiculturalism is good. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: scrumsguy
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:42am
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havn't white people been a minority for awhile? my freind says that there are tons of blacks(from the railroad) and others that live there ------------- Help support the Youth In Asia! Member Of Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:43am
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Robo brings up a good point. What if unbiased observation leads to a seemingly racist conclusion? Is it still racism if it has become observed fact? If racism and fact are that similar, BOTH cultures NEED to change. This is happening a LOT in my area. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:55am
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Half Puerto Rican, half Dutch/German
I live in one of the most diverse cities in Jersey and here we pretty much are all racist, but in a humorous way because everyone is so diverse no one really is ever offended. We all just kid. Hell, I didn't see people start being politically correct until I went into Catholic High School and saw all the white kids try hard not to offend the small majority of black kids, its pretty funny. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ticalxx421
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:03am
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Irish Canadian. Mah mummy was 2 months pregnant with me before she and my pappy came to Canada from Belfast.
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Posted By: scrumsguy
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:07am
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I'm not really sure my heritige its kinda Canadian Dutch British I'm like an experiment gone wrong ------------- Help support the Youth In Asia! Member Of Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:10am
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Man i really want to move to Canada now...
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Posted By: scrumsguy
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:12am
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Don't move to my town it's EXTREMELY boring nothing ever happens ------------- Help support the Youth In Asia! Member Of Sgt. Peppers Lonely Hearts Club Band |
Posted By: TheSpookyKids87
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 10:39am
Hudson County? |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 11:05am
DAMN STRAIGHT. IMO, in my area, there is a strong latino influence, and execpt for the stuck-up kids from another town in my school, there really is not any racist feelings going on. Edit: I think my cousins situation is kinda funny though. She is Irish/Polish and she just married a Puerto Rican/Asian. Her husband looks Puerto Rican (Dark skin) but his brother is pale white and has slightly slanted eyes. Can you say Pole-Ricans for kids?
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 11:52am
| I went to chicken express one day and observed the same as carl. The whole crew was african american except for 1 or 2 people. There were about 8 people behind the counter. At McDonalds I only observe mostly obese people working behind the counter. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 11:52am
My Kinda Race:
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:12pm
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I'm not suprised. -------------
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:16pm
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Yes, please. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:36pm
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I am still waiting for Gatyr to come back.
Am I to assume that I am correct, and he just does't want to admit it? Hypocrite? (now he has to answer...) ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:45pm
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Carl, I read you the way I think you intended it- You mentioned that you see lots of black guys working the 'entry level' jobs, but then sardonically asked 'and who do you think the Manager is?' Most of you have to admit I don't normally jump to Carl's defense, but I understand what he said and the way he was *trying* to make it come across. I guess Gatyr just didn't take it that way. I don't think Carl was trying to be racist. He was just implying that it still sucks that a lot of higher positions tend to be occupied by whites. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 12:47pm
Exactly, thank you. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: STOcocker
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:31pm
I see where he is trying to come from, but using a fast food restaurant to reflect social status/racism in America does nothing. That is like taking a survey of race in Harlem and then concluding that the majority of America is black. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:33pm
Well sure, but dumb =/= racist. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:35pm
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I'm mostly Italian.
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Posted By: Pezzer
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:49pm
No it doesn't. It sucks that higher positions are potentially occupied by lesser qualified people. Race shouldn't matter. ------------- Suck, sqeeze, bang, blow, and GO! 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 1:54pm
Just an example.
Exactly, but you know what was meant. It's the fact that white people are often still chosen for higher positions because they are white, not qualifications. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 2:44pm
I'm not going to answer you. I don't feel that you have adequately justified your statement as not racist, and you're much to annoying for me to put any effort into an argument. Take that how you want, I don't care. If you are silly enough to think that my apathy equates to stupidity and hypocrisy, that is on you.
I know how he intended it now, but his intention doesn't mask the racism that was in his initial post. He led the reader to think that with no other information, the white person was most likely to have the better occupation. His insinuation (thus, his statement) was racist, but the intent with which he said it wasn't. Let me reiterate: Carl, you are an idiot. Stupid doesn't equal racist, but it does equal stupid. If you are going to post something so ignorant on the surface, be a bit more eloquent with your post. -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 2:59pm
It was pretty obvious what I meant. Most people seemed to understand it right away. let me reiterate: You are being an ignorant prick. You does not equal everyone but it does equal you. That means that just because you believe something, doesn't mean everyone else does. If you were a new person joining the forum, than you wouldn't have been able to get away with what you said. You rely on the fact that you are popular here to get you by and allowing statements such as the ones you made. The insinuation was not racist, just the way you twisted it. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 3:06pm
Indeed. And sadly, people like Pezzer will continue to connect "white" with "qualified," and "black" with "under qualified." ------------- 
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Posted By: STOcocker
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 3:14pm
Too bad affirmative action kills the idea of qualified prevailing. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 3:16pm
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Back on topic, I'm not white, I'm a Caucasian male of European decent. Really though, I'm white. Irish/ Polish. |
Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 3:52pm
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Personally I am a big fan of the Gumball 3000 and the U.S. Grand Prix. ------------- PlentifulBalls "It's cool, I'll be dead before I'm not pretty." Gatyr "Stupid things exist."
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 3:59pm
K. Also, I'm being arrogant, not ignorant. lol at my poplularity. -------------
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 4:00pm
You don't know how AA really works then. -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 4:02pm
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Explain how it works plox.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 4:12pm
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AA is not all about quotas.
People make it seem like employers are going out and seeking any old minority that happens to walk by. We are not talking about hiring a random African American with no qualifications over someone who is white and with tons of qualifications simply because "Oh hey we have a quotas." Yes, there were quota systems when AA began being implemented, but they are being phased out. The active purpose of AA is to create diversity and a mirroring effect of the society in which is is existing. Companies are beginning to realize that having a diverse staff is actually better for them, same with colleges, etc. -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 4:16pm
Whether or not they are bing "phased out" or not, there ARE still quotas. That in itself fights AGAINST equality. People should be looked at on qualifications alone. Whether this resulted in an all black staff or an all white staff, if it WERE based on a person's merit, it would be fair. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 4:18pm
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The quotas were simply there to kick-start the system and ensure that a proper "mirror" of society was in the work force, specifically in government positions. Unfortunately, they didn't phase them out as quickly as they were supposed to and the whole issue of "that guy got hired instead of me but I was more qualified and it's all because of quotas" thing got started. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 4:21pm
1) While I don't think that is what you meant, I do agree with you, that is exactly what it does. 2) Such cut and dry, black and white (no pun intended) ways of looking at it are not good for businesses. They know this too. -------------
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 4:24pm
1) It is a shame too, because it turned people's view of a really good set of programs into spoiled milk. 2) Those claims are by and large glaring hyperbole. Businesses WANT a diverse workplace. It is almost always good for them. -------------
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 6:32pm
Passaic County. -------------
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Posted By: Santa Chewp
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 6:36pm
Sad but true. ------------- [IMG]http://i9.tinypic.com/8f3jo8l.jpg"> |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 23 December 2007 at 7:47pm
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Question then, what do you consider "qualified?" -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 24 December 2007 at 4:22am
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At the University of Michigan, their old AA policy added points to the scores of tests/GPA's etc. or minority students... I don't see any way around the fact that that's unequal treatment, despite the fact that is may be meant to do good.
I'm also of the opinion that race should make no determination whatsoever for any employment. But it will be damn near impossible to get every bit of prejudice against any race out of every employer in the US. Affirmative Action, at least as I've seen it work, is BS. Diversity should come naturally through the hiring of qualified individuals. Forced diversity just isn't the same thing, as it ends up spawning more racist impressions. ------------- 
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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 24 December 2007 at 4:28am
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Master Debater of 2007 - Whale. -------------
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 24 December 2007 at 12:26pm
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Posted By: MT. Vigilante
Date Posted: 24 December 2007 at 2:07pm
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Even though I havent been here for six months, I must agree.
As for the topic of this thread; I am mainly of German Decent, and after doing some family reaserch I found out that my family came over here from Visboden (sp.?) Germany in 1720. Thats my fathers side. My Mothers side were British, and were Torries in the Revolution, whereas my fathers side fought in Washington's Army. -------------  Join the XP Re-Revolution!
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