98 Coustom Pro
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Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Upgrades and Customizing
Forum Description: Trick it out!
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Topic: 98 Coustom Pro
Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Subject: 98 Coustom Pro
Date Posted: 28 December 2007 at 6:13pm
| I got a 98c Pro that I am planning to deck out. What should I get for it? As of right now I have a scope mounted on it and everthing else on it is stock (But I still whoop every one in my path lol). What barrel should i put on it and what extras should I add on? I am second in command for the Huntsville (Texas) Team Spartans. My position is right wing. Thanks! |
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 28 December 2007 at 9:04pm
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I've been sitting here a full 5 minutes trying to figure out the best way to put all of this. So, I'm going to be frank with you.
First off, from the 9 other posts you and your friend have put up, we understand that you play for some "team" which has named itself the "Spartans" and that you are from Huntsville, TX. You don't need to include that in every post as all it really does is make you look like a complete tool. You're talking to a forum filled with people who play PSP/NPPL/CFOA/NEPL/NCPA paintball on established and very very good teams. Throwing out that you're on a "team" does little to improve your image in the collective mind of the forum. Rather, it hurts our image of you and those you associate with which makes us less inclined to help you with whatever matter you are seeking assistance with. That said, I'll get to the root of your question. As far as how to upgrade your '98, there are many different paths you can go down depending on what it is you want your marker to be able to do. If you want to play "army" and deck it out in mil-sim bolt-ons to get the military look, you're going to need a stock, some form of gas-through/expansion chamber "magazine", a barrel shroud, etc. If you want to improve the performance of your marker rather than looks, you'll need to look at upping your rate of fire by installing either and E-Grip, R/T, or E-Bolt. In conjunction with any of the afore mentioned firepower upgrades, you'll need to procure a hopper that will feed fast enough (at the minimum you'll need a 12v ReVLution hopper), you'll need to either upgrade to HPA/N2 for your air source, or invest in a Palmer's Stabilizer reg or a very good expansion chamber to keep liquid CO2 out of the marker's valve. Eventually you may want to look into a Low Pressure Kit (LPK) to improve consistency and efficiency. The most important upgrade you can make whichever path you decide to go down is purchasing a better barrel. LAPCO and J&J make the best barrels for the money out there. They're both usually under $45 for a single barrel and are amazingly accurate for the price. I hope this helps you get an idea of what you want to do with your marker. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 2:05am
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Tallen, gg. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 2:34am
QFT X100 Nobody cares that someone assigned you some imaginary "legendary" rank. It holds no value here. Also, you both have been called out on your poor spelling and grammar a few times not yet you have not put any noticeable effort towards improvement. Even little things such as minor spelling mistakes and capitalization make it harder to read. By not even making the effort to do a simple once over of your post, you are representing yourself and your team badly. Spending 10 seconds to make your post easier to read is only fair if you expect us to help you. Showing effort on your part will definately help you get more and better help. To start you off, you should edit your origional post and replace it with this:
And that's just basic spelling and grammar. |
tallen702 wrote:Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 6:12pm
| Yeah I thought that rank didn't exist. I would switch to HPA or N2 but I don't think that any place around here refills that. I've also heard that N2 is pretty expensive. Is HPA cheaper than C02? What should the size of the barrel? The nearest place that sells gear and equpiment is Academy in Conroe. Oh and I'm looking for performance rather than looks. Thanks for the feed back. |
Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 6:34pm
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HPA is the same as N2. And HPA is usually cheaper to fill than CO2, but the tanks cost more.
Best barrel size is usually around 12", not too big that its going to impede you while playing, and not so small that you can't press into bunkers (if playing with inflatables). If you want to go smaller, the smallest you should get is between 8-10", and the largest being 14-16" ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 6:37pm
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To piggy back on Jerseypaint's post. 14" will give you a nice balance between the sound-reducing capabilities of the porting in a barrel and maneuverability as well as efficiency.
My suggestions for barrels are the J&J Ceramic (one piece, two piece, or kit) and the LAPCO Bigshot. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 6:40pm
| I think the barrel I have on it is 11 or 12" but isn't very accurate over about 40 yards. The barrel will probably be the first thing I upgrade. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 29 December 2007 at 10:40pm
Most aren't. I've found that most barrels share the same effective range but their accuracy between that range differs a lot. (though there are a lot of other factors contributing to accuracy) |
Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 30 December 2007 at 10:21pm
| Yeah. Should I keep that scope on it? It really doesn't help much except for scouting the land. It's small and not very noticible and black. It's power is 4X15. Oh and what's a good hopper for this gun? I currently have the stock hopper it comes with and one of my friends gave me an electric VL Quantum, both hold 200 balls. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 31 December 2007 at 12:11am
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Unless you go electronic, any electric hopper will do.
Scope is up to you. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 31 December 2007 at 5:02pm
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If you're on a huge tract of land, you can keep the scope for scouting and such if you like it. Otherwise, get rid of it if it gets annoying or in your way. As for hoppers, anything is fine for you now since its stock. Try the VL if you want for now, or just use the stock gravity hopper. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 31 December 2007 at 5:52pm
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Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 31 December 2007 at 7:00pm
| I've been looking at the upgrades for my marker on this website and wanted to know if i should get a stock for it. I'll use the VL for speedball but I'm going to need another nonelectric hopper for woodsball. Can I really go wrong when buying a nonelectric hopper? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 31 December 2007 at 7:35pm
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Stocks are a matter of personal preference. I've used a solid stock, a collapsible and a folding. I hated the solid stock and the collapsible was annoying, but I really like the JCS folding stock I have on one of my markers. (It feels more solid than the collapsible, yet can be moved completely out of the way to the side of the marker. The only drawback is that with it folded to the side it interferes with dropping the hopper for squeegeeing.) If you use a stock, you also have to consider what you will do with your tank. I run CO2 off of an x-chamber screwed into the vertical adapter on the 98C that is stock equipped and that works fine for me because I detest remote lines. A tank will sometimes get in the way if mounted to a standard ASA while using a stock. Additionally, a tank at this location defeats the purpose of collapsible/folding stocks. You do have several tank mounting options:
If you decide to get a better hopper, consider getting one that would do double duty (speedball and woodsball). I am very fond of the ricochet hoppers. (The fact that the switch is tripped and the balls are stirred practically every time the trigger is pulled means they actually feed quite well for cheaper low-tech electric hoppers.) However, if you plan on eventually upgrading your Tippmann to a "super-gun" you may want to avoid purchasing a hopper that would require later upgrading/replacement. The hopper question is best answered after you determine future firepower upgrades. -------------
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Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 01 January 2008 at 8:05pm
| What's the advantage to having barrels that are 2, 3, or kit pieces? |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 January 2008 at 11:57pm
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The various "backs" to barrel kits are necessary for the greatest accuracy possible as the match between paint size and bore size is what governs about 50% of the accuracy issue. The different inner diameters (I.D.) of each back to the kit means you can find the best fit for whatever paint you are using. The 2-piece part of barrel kits comes from the need to be able to swap backs with a smaller number of tips, keeping the cost down and allowing the user to select from a wide range of lengths to meet their needs. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 02 January 2008 at 6:52pm
| Ahhhhh... cool. Works for me. Should I get a Cyclone feeder? |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 02 January 2008 at 8:28pm
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Cyclones are great, if you want what it is they provide. They are a pneumatic system that uses otherwise wasted gas to cycle the loader after each shot. They have the benefit of battery-free operation over electronic loaders, however they cannot cycle quite as fast as the best electronic loaders without considerable upgrades (and even then, it may not be possible). However, the cyclone can cycle faster than 15 BPS stock, and it is fairly easy to get a cyclone over 20 BPS. This is faster than most people need to fire their marker, if their marker is capable of doing so. Tell us more about your style of play, only once we know what your needs are can we give you advice of any help. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45 
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Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 03 January 2008 at 1:36pm
| This marker is what I'll be using for woodsball. It's a 98c pro ACT Digi camo with a 12" stock barrel, stock drop forward, stock Doubble trigger, and a scope I put on. That'll give you an idea on what it looks like. As I said I'll be using it for woodsball but the gun just can't keep up with how fast I'm shooting and now frequently jams. We'll play anything for regular woodsball to hard core woodsball (hard core does exist right? My friend said that's where meleeing is legal). |
Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 03 January 2008 at 1:42pm
| Oh and if I do get a J&J Ceramic do I need to get an adapter for my marker? I was just looking at them and and the ceramic was labeled for a model 98. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 03 January 2008 at 1:47pm
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no adapter needed Model 98 refers to all markers of the Tippmann '98 and Triumph lines
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 03 January 2008 at 4:19pm
Of course. When I play hard core I carry a 24" stainless steel SBS Snipernator barrel in a sheath across my back for use when barrel tagging. (The stainless steel resists bending during tags and I have grip tape on the end so I don't lose it when things get exciting. I'm working on a handguard but have yet to come up with a way to attach it that doesn't require drilling into the barrel. I'm considering a modified apex adapter for this project.) I also have a bandoleer on the front of the harness that holds three easily accessible stock 98 barrels for tags at ranges from beyond touching distance to approximately 18 feet. (The weight distribution of 98 barrels makes them fly better than stock A5/X7 barrels.) Seriously now, legal meleeing in paintball? Riiiiiiiiiight!? Edited: Needed more "i"s in "right. -------------
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 03 January 2008 at 4:39pm
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Mack, your barrel strategy interests me. I always prefer to melee using my 68/45, though that 24" Snipernator barrel is intriguing. I think I'll buy two and tape them together, 48" barrel must be quite accurate. Man, that'll make me 7eh 1337357 5n1pz0rz on the field! Spartanz Halo: What does hard core mean to you? There is no classification of competitive paintball known as hard core woodsball. It could be interpreted to mean people who play very seriously. However, meleeing is NEVER allowed in paintball. Barrel tagging is usually, but meleeing is not. Otherwise, injury rates would be... well... way too high. Don't hit people with any paintball gear other than the paintballs themselves... just don't. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45
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Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 03 January 2008 at 8:53pm
Yeah I had a feeling he lied about that too. All these lies are getting annoying. He wants to sell me his autococker trilly for $82. It's pretty accurate and silent. Would tis be a good deal? I've used it before and liked how silent it was and that the gravity feed hopper could actually keep up with how fast I'm shooting. It's got a 1.5 trigger that all you got to do is tap it and it'll fire. He might have a LPK on it and all it's been doing is sitting in his room just waiting for someone to play with it. The stock barrel he's got on it is really accurate. It's in mint condition, no scratches, dents, or broken parts. He's also going to throw in any extra parts/ tools that he can find and can fix it for me if anything goes wrong. All this for $82. Should I get it? I decided to not get a Cyborg just yet and put it off for a littel while longer. I'll send pics and stats ASAP.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 04 January 2008 at 12:20am
 Actually, you were supposed to visualize me swinging it (the Snipernator) like a mad Scotsman from the movie Braveheart. Edited Note Referencing Above Statement: When doing said visualization it is best to leave out the naked and painted blue part in order to avoid traumatic psychological distress.
Good advice. -------------
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Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 04 January 2008 at 1:22am
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Is it the autococker trilogy tactical? I just bought one for half that price and he might have too. He may just be trying to make some $$ off of it. The stock barrel isnt too great on it but the J&J is beautiful. It silences it even more and is extremely accurate. You may also just want to use the cash for the 98. It really depends on what kind of money you are looking to spend at this time. the autococker will also suck up some funds since you will end up getting a new barrel, a delrin bolt, and you will need HPA/N2. I havent heard good stories with cockers and CO2. I love the cocker though. Now to the 98. Are you looking at going and getting the e grip on it or an RT to speed it up? Personally I love the cyclone and it will give you plenty of speed unless you need to shoot faster than 15-25 bps (25 after you upgrade the internals). As for the stock on it it is all about prefference. If you have a friend that has one try borrowing it for a game or 2 and this will help you decide whether or not you want to actually buy one. If not I recomend the RVA. You can still get milsim look without a stock. The rocket cocker is also a nice upgrade to seal the bolt up a little bit more. Good luck on the build and let us know if you have any other questions. Also by melee did you mean dead manning/barrel tapping. I know some people give a 10ft radius where you are supposed to say dead man instead of shooting and some places its shoot to kill no matter what. I have never heard of it referred to as meleeing. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/"> 
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Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 04 January 2008 at 12:18pm
| No it's not. He's had this thing for quite some time. He might have some upgrades on it already. I would switch to HPA/N2 but no place around here refills that so that's a big problem. For the 98 I'll end up putting an e grip/ RT on it along with a cyclone. As for meleeing he ment everything for a simple barrel tag to hitting them as hard as you possibly can with your C02 bottle and getting into fights. At least that's what he said. I think I'll use my 12" Tippy stock barrel for barrel tagging. |
Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 04 January 2008 at 12:19pm
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OOOOOWWWWWW. That'll leave a big red mark. |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 04 January 2008 at 9:42pm
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sounds like fun..... to a point. id get mad and shoot them at point blank range. that could be cuz i have an extramly short fuse though. never heard of meleeing in paintball. as for ur gun i hav e no help, im in the same boat ur in. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 04 January 2008 at 10:48pm
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Barrels? pssh... Ka-Bars and Mameluke Swords are the way we play. -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 04 January 2008 at 11:25pm
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Wow. You guys are Texan? I'm Houstonian. We need to play some time. It seems y'all have a LLLLOOOOOTTTT to learn about this game...
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 2:07am
Don't abuse them too much DeTrevni. -------------
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 4:05pm
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i've no objections to Detrev's "lessons". Just make sure paramedics are on hand k?
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 4:38pm
Hah! There's a reason his marker is named after the Egyptian god of Death. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: tippmannnewb
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 5:19pm
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When playing hardcore woodsball, I usually strap a bunch of paintball grenades around my chest. Then when the time is right, i'll pull all the pins and do a "diving bearhug" at one of my opponents. |
Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 5:32pm
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by barel tapping i didnt mean actually hitting them with the barrel. t simply means deadmanning someone. If I got hit with a CO2 tank or a barrel i would probably have to hurt someone. If you get the RT trigger you will be fine with CO2, especially since you live in tewas and it usually doesnt get too cold there. if you go electronic then i recomend the HPA if you can find a place to fill it. As for the hopper question just get the cyclone and you will have plenty of speed for woodsball or any other play you want to do. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/">
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 6:00pm
riiiiiiiigggghhhhht.....  ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 6:42pm
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We play big-boy style with bayonnets (i have no clue on how to spell that Anyways back to the questions, is that autococker for $82 worth it or am I getting ripped of? I'm not sure what year it is but I have played with it before and loved its handeling, quietness, and accuracy. Supposedly he said there's some Paintball rule that prevents him form throwing his hopper in with the gun for free and said I have to pay extra to get it. The 2 hoppers I have don't fit his cocker and I'm not going to do any thing to them because I'll need them for my Tippy. I'm not going to buy another hopper for the cocker (if I buy it) because he wants to be a butthole about giving ayway his hopper due to some imaginary rule that he's using as an excuse to nickel and dime me out of all my cash. But is the gun woth the cash? |
) straped onto the ends of our barrels with machetties (or how to spell that one, but you get my point) on our backs for close combat Texan style lol. Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 7:13pm
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Given that it's used, $82 is too high a price to be paying when they go NIB for $100 or so on E-bay. I'd say $65-$70 w/o a hopper. What kind of hopper is it that he has anyway? And the crap he's giving you about some "hopper rule" is a load of BS.
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Posted By: tippmannnewb
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 10:19pm
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 05 January 2008 at 11:16pm
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You no use facepalm!!!! I am the keeper of the facepalm!!!! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 January 2008 at 12:12am
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Look, I'm gonna say this in a kind, concerned way: Get the fark off your "friend's" team! Everything he's told you to date is pure BS, and he's trying to shaft you into spending extra on what I can almost imagine is a crappy hopper. If you truly want to develop in this sport/game/hobby/whatever, then you need to blaze your own trail until you feel you know enough about the game to compete effectively on a team and not get manipulated. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: TJ-AmbushSniper
Date Posted: 06 January 2008 at 12:49am
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I would agree with DeTrevni, he is giving you the purest form of BS, there is no such thing as "Hardcore" paintball as he speaks of, there is no hopper rule. You are better off playing by yourself or finding another team. ------------- -Tippmann A-5 Double Trigger X7 Hopper to replace A5 -Draxxus 48ci 3000psi HPA -Proto Switch EL Camo 
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 06 January 2008 at 1:27pm
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Play with your friends if you want my advice. Just not on a team. Find your niche on the field first. And the only way to do that is play. Eventually you'll figure out what your good at, and then you'll be able to really offer something to a team.
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Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 06 January 2008 at 5:47pm
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Wow, yeah ditch your friend. You can still play with them, but, as people have said, find your own path. Dont depend on them for information. It sounds like they may be playing you, or they are very "not smart" to put it nicely. ------------- 
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Posted By: Spartanz Halo
Date Posted: 07 January 2008 at 10:30am
| The only prob with switiching to a different team is that there is no other team in a 40 mile radius. No one want to live in/near the Prison City. Belive me he's not trying to play me. He doesn't know how. He just wants to "impress me" because he hasn't had a friend that could actually paintball with him. The hopper is a POS and he's had to do a little sanding ant taping so that the hopper would fit ang stay on the gun. The tape was so that the hopper would stay and when fireing it wouldn't fly off( yes it would fly off). I'm not going to buy the hopper but the marker is good. he said the cocker trilly isn't just a regular trilly, it's a trilly ext lol. He wants $80 for it but I'll get him down to $70 or $65 once I tell him that it doesn't exist. He's been chating with some guy called "Iron Head" who is supposedly the best paintballer in the world. Whenever he invited me to join, he said we'd be in tournaments, guess what he says now that we're going to wait a little longer before we get into tourneys so we can "get our skills up". |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 5:30pm
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thats what i diiiid oh and its nice to know there are some texans in this forum, im from DFW area...anyways, yeah i definetly learned a buttload of stuff about tippys on my own and now i can take them all apart and put them back together practically with my eyes closed...even with the upgrades, learning on your own is the best way or, if you want, there is a BIG gathering each year called OKLAHOMA D-DAY...anyone whos gone to one of these please say OORAH! where you can learn quite a bit about all sorts a guns and find what intersets you the most first hand #1 its just plain amazing #2that where i learned about tippys and thier practically indestructibleness #3...4000 people playing at one time if that doesnt sound fun then you need to be slapped ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 6:26pm
There are only 7 types of trilogies that were produced. The go in order from lowest to highest:
No such thing as an EXT (which you already state you knew). I understand the kid is excited about having a friend to play paintball with, but he needs to learn to tone it down a bit and research some facts before making a fool of himself in front of you. When he's trying to get you to pay a lot for the trilogy he wants to sell you, you need to point out to him that whatever price he paid for it in the first place, the value on Autocockers has dropped drastically in the past year. Markers that used to sell for $1,200.00 new are now going for $300. Not even the almighty Karnivorr is going for more than $450 new-in-box these days. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 6:30pm
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oooooo Karnivor...i <3 karnivor -------------
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