good ole tippy98c
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Topic: good ole tippy98c
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Subject: good ole tippy98c
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 5:11pm
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so heres my good ole tippy 98c got a wire stock lapco shroud 14" hammerhead cyclone feeder (inside) starfire bolt switched the stock trigger spring w/ cut-in-half pen spring which makes it MUCH faster and easier to pull i dont know if we can have our faces in it or not sooo if we cant i'll take it off ------------- 
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Posted By: +DreX+
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 5:13pm
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Why do you have no shirt on? Thats kinda creepy; Looks good- If they made a legitimate stock / body kit that meshed well with the MG Shroud, I might consider buying it; Any ideas on getting a firepower upgrade? ------------- Insert Fail Here |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 5:37pm
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well im selling this gun to work on my A-5, im not completely done with it and i need $ oh and i had my shirt off because well for one, im random i got outta the shower and looked at my gun, then i looked at my camera and put 2 and 2 together i like the wirestocks personally, its the only one that feels comfortable next to the A-5s $100 spec ops MP-5 stock...firepower upgrades...if i were...try to get my hands on an E-bolt, Fang Double trigger, and the QEPH, VORTEX, LIGHTNING ROD combo, and to top it all off with LPK -------------
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Posted By: fourfiftysix
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 7:35pm
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i think he might be trying out for the tippmann yearly calender lol.. i like those stocks alot more than the 6 position ones ------------- transform into the ghost rider |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 7:37pm
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its true...i HATE CAR stocks with a passion...one of the many reasons id take a G36 over an M-16 or M4A1....they just arent comfortable at all -------------
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 8:20pm
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I like the sticker on the cyclone.
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 8:21pm
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who made that stock?? how much did you pay?? im lookin for a wire stock for my 98C. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:08pm
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they say there arent any snipers in paintball...then they meet me, i found this stock on Ebay for a total of $30 including shipping, its an AMAZING stock... i LOVE it -------------
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:20pm
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sweet. i dont get where they can say there isent snipers in paintball, trust me, there are. i dont want to get the whole sniper issue going though. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:30pm
yeah...true, i "snipe" my sniping is sitting, waiting, shoot once...wait some more lol, most people interperate sniping as shooting from a helluva long distance away...well for those of you who think that...im more of a "marksman" then aaaaanyways i hvae an A-5 now and i CANT really "snipe" cuz it has a different set-up than the 98 up there...ive just had that pic on my comp for a while so i thought i'd share  the setup i have for the A-5 is more assault if anything -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:37pm
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Oh god. Must resist. Must resist. Must resist...
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Posted By: pbdude985
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:43pm
lol i really like the stock ------------- 
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DeTrevni wrote:Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:46pm
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IM A LEET SNIPEZOR!!!!!! the stock is the best ive used, ive tryed the G36, CAR, and the commando stocks...this one beats them all and its really cheap too -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:54pm
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I'll just say this. I've seen a LOT of people say this, and after 10 pages of debate, walk away with changed minds...
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 9:59pm
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Paging Snake now...
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 10:01pm
i can care less, i am what i am, ive read that too and you CAN have snipers in paintball in my opinion...MY opinion, so lets leave it at that mmk? we all have our opinions and thats mine and im stickin w/ it  -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 10:02pm
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Sure. If you can back it up. Look, this is gonna go into a debate anyway, so why don't you make the first blow. You a sniper? Why? ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 10:07pm
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well think of it this way, a tippmann 98 can be turned into a sniper-rifle, its loud as hell, is semi automatic, and with a flatline, outranges most of the competition by 100 feet, im thinking of the tippy98 as being like a PSG...oud as hell, semi auto, and outranging, also scope can be added and ladida you get he picture, ghili suits can be added to the repetuar as well. when people in paintball say the word sniper, every1 automatically starts saying NO THERES NOT, because whats going through thier heads is-"snipers shoot from really far away" well IN PAINTBALL 100ft is pretty far wouldnt u say so? -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 10:15pm
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My turn. - Loud as hell. K. when you're 100 feet away, how's that a good thing? Everyone can hear you, and knows where you are. There's no point in trying to quiet your marker, because at the ranges paintball is played, you won't be able to get it quiet enough to be undetectable. Silencers are illegal. - Flatline's have the ability to outrange, yes. But the velocity lost at those distances is so much so that the probability of getting an elimination (AKA ball break) is very slim. Plus, accuracy falls to pieces at that range. - Scopes are functionally useless. May help you see downrange, but eliminates peripheral vision. Paintballs aren't nearly accurate enough to use a scope. At the ranges a paintball is accurate, the scope won't matter anyway. Iron sights, or sighting down the barrel, are immensely more efficient. - Ghillie is largely ineffective. It is not universal, and will never be. Ghillie only works when it is in a setting it is designed to match exactly. If it does not, you actually stand out more. Ghillie does NOT automatically hide your butt, you need to be trained, or at least aware of how to use it. - Snipers DO shoot really far away. Their mission is to eliminate a high-value target beyond the range of effective cover fire, and be able to egress without being detected. THERE IS NO WAY THIS IS HAPPENING IN PAINTBALL. at least regularly enough for sniping to be a "position." Comparing a paintball gun to the most accurate semi rifle in the world is silly. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 10:29pm
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Definition of a Paintball Sniper; Feel like a player without actually joining the game! ------------- 
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 10:43pm
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ouch that last comment hurt, hvae you guys ever been to a thing called D-DAY? yeah there are snipers there, yeah their guns are quiet, and oh yes, they take out high-value targets AKA generals and what not, so in some games NO there arent snipers and in some games YES there are, it all depends on the game, i use a scope to see downrange and if i didnt have it i'd loose sight of the ball in the woods since i use the cammo PBs, scopes are effective to me -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 10:50pm
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Yes, I've heard of D-Day. I would like to make it this year. Okay, let's assume I'm a general at D-Day. Do you think I'd be alone? Do you think I wouldn't realize what my points are worth if I'm eliminated? How do you intend on sneaking into fortified and guarded enemy HQ? We've already been over ghillie. If you somehow manage to MIRACULOUSLY get past the guards I will most likely have, and you take the shot (it's definitely gonnna be long range, as if I'm a general, I'm not gonna give anyone a chance at getting close. I'd probably stay within the HQ building whenever possible), do you realize that the odds of a one shot hit and ball break are exceptionally low? It's just silly! Why, for the love of God, are you using those over-hyped camo paintballs? ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 11:04pm
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ive seen the dam thing happen with my own 2 eyes, i was staring right at GENERAL WACASTER when he was shot by WHITE PAINT white is snipers paint...nobody knew where the sniper was either, first dam hand account man my statement above yours is whats what ok
and the camo balls, well i got them for cheap since i work at a paintball place, so i tried them out, the reason i use them now is becasue people dont move outa the way anymore, cuz they are much harder to see -------------
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 11:11pm
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i'd like to clear something up about ww2 in general...a mauser 98 and a springfield 03 are not quiet rifles...and i dont believe they were in the war either; they were based on the idea that the round would hit the object before it was heard... also. d-day? dude, so many artillery rounds were going off and machine guns blaring, silencing those guns was pointless. they wouldnt find you based on the sound of the rifle in a million years under those conditions. |
Posted By: fourfiftysix
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 11:14pm
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ahh why did u mention paintball snipers????????/ ------------- transform into the ghost rider |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 January 2008 at 11:20pm
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You're gonna need to explain the WHITE PAINT thing. Is WHITE PAINT given given out to snipers? Can't say I've heard that before... If you didn't see who pulled the shot, how do you know it was a sniper? Maybe it was a guy who managed to get into the tree line, shoot and run like a beast. I'm willing to bet whoever pulled the shot was eliminated soon after. And whatever with the camo paint thing. It works both ways. If you have to use a scope to keep track of the paint, then you're hindering yourself, not giving yourself an advantage. Edit: GI JOE, I assumed he meant Oklahoma D-Day.  
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 12:04am
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You know what ace? I believe in snipers too.
Check it out, even the dictionary agrees.
See? It says nothing about range, therefore, range can not be a factor in sniping. Thus, there is sniping in paintball. Now use this and fight for our cause! |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 12:09am
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Oh you did NOT just go there!
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 12:18am
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Carl, don't bait the guy. It's just not funny anymore....
Ace, I've played enough big games in my time in paintball to have the experience without having to go to that over-hyped debacle in OK. As for snipers existing as a role in big-games, they exist only in name for the theatrical purpose of making the "loaner" crowd feel important when they'd normally just be scoffed at for being easy pickings. Out of the past 8 years of big games that I've played, I have never, in my entire experience, either seen, nor heard factual accounts of high value targets being eliminated by a "sniper" successfully. I have seen guys sneak into the perimeter and get off a lucky string. I've been one of those guys, but never has an individual been able to fire on the object outside of the effective range of return fire and make egress without detection. What most people refer to as "sniping" in paintball is merely an ambush tactic that is used not by snipers, but by light infantry. It's day-one tactical material for any member of our military forces. Sneaking in and eliminating a high value target from close range is just being stealthy. Heck, I pulled that off at Path of Disaster back in '02 in Anne Arundal MD wearing bright read speedball gear. The term "sniper" in paintball is just a way for military wannabes to make themselves feel important and for spec-ops to sell you non-functional gear for a lot of money. Sorry to say it, but it's just the way it is. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 12:35am
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As of yet, I have nothing to add except that as a trained member of the US Marine Corps from my professional expertise I have to say that what a wannabe paintball "sniper" does is nothing even remotely close to what a real trained sniper does in real world combat. Once you can hit a target in a 5" grouping at 300yds with a paintball gun when a normal player can't then we might be able to talk about paintball snipers. Until then, you are a wannabe that believes all the spec-ops fanboy bs. Go ahead, let spec-ops spoon feed you their fake positions and tactics. The only reason why they came up with that crap is because they use it to make money. Have fun lining spec-ops pockets, after all thats what you are here for.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 12:55am
But oh my god the genious of special ops... So much easy money plus their products market themselves. |
Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 8:53am
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Most snipers wear clothes... Just a tip...
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Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 2:56pm
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Who cares. If he wants to call himself a sniper then let him and if you dont want to use the word then dont. This really is a stupid fight since a paintball guns shoot about the same distance unless you put the flatty or apex on it which then hinders the accuracy. Maybe you can get a shot off without being noticed at first but many people will be looking for you and you will get hit quick. now you can get a quiet barrel and a quiet gun and maybe people wont hear you but most people are not trained in how to properly use ghillie suits and even if you are wearing one it doesnt mean they cant see you. So end the end all I have to say is again... WHO CARES!!!!! ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/"> 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 3:01pm
Obviously, the people of this forum. It is a good thing that there are people here nice enough to try to set someone straight. |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 3:23pm
i had to bring it up..... ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 3:27pm
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I love these sniper debates, it gives me somthing to read, and i wounder how many pages we can get? -------------
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 3:30pm
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i dont know, we will have to see. i have to say that its funny to watch them go back and forth though. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: tippmannnewb
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 4:01pm
| I gets a strike! woo! |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 4:28pm
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what r u tlkn bout tippmannnewb?? ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 5:17pm
Um, your arguments were exactly the reason why we care. The art of sniping is not physically possible for some of the exact reasons you mentioned. Therefore we have to set the record straight on the issue, and guide idiots away from thinking that they are uber 1337 5n1p3rZ. -------------
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Posted By: fourfiftysix
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 9:55pm
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Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 10 January 2008 at 9:58pm
But I am the uber 1337 5n1p3rZ. 4realz. And I pwn kids on Halo too. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 9:07am
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white paint was the snipers paint, and i go to Oklahoma D-day -------------
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 3:10pm
how am i a noob? so what if i on occassion decide to lay back and sn...i mean pick people off, just cuz i call myself a sniper does not warrent me noob status is that how its gunna be??? when some1 says oh i snipe, you automatically call them a coward??? ive played PLENTY of games, just cuz im not sponsored, or dont hvae the money to go paintballing whenever the hell i want doesnt make me a noob, ive gone out on many occassions and shot up the dam place, one reason as to why ive replaced the stock trigger spring in my gun to another for lighter pull ok so just cuz i lay low and survey the area and decide to shoot at people at the same time doesnt warrent me the noob icon you guys al hvae me set on...i love speedball, when i get around to it im planning on getting a nice speedball gun -------------
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 3:58pm
nice, i couldent have said it better myself. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: fourfiftysix
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 4:07pm
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ok buddy ur like 10. how is it even fun sitting in the bush trying to pick someone off while the wind blows ur balls away. and after that first shot is off u have already baited yourself out lol...mmm no fun ------------- transform into the ghost rider |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 4:50pm
transform into the ghost rider Could it be? |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 4:59pm
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Ace, the trick is to not let everyone else get to you. Let's keep this civil. Obviously, those calling you a n00b or whatever is not constructive to the debate, and as such, are not part of it. Ignore them. So, white paint is designated "snipers'" paint, or it just happened to be the color of the paint the general got hit with? ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 5:21pm
um you dont need to call anyone "noob", meanwhile your the one acting like it with all the "zzzz" spam crap, thers no need for it! -------------
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 5:58pm
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 10:55pm
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sweet i love F.M.J. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: fourfiftysix
Date Posted: 11 January 2008 at 11:27pm
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"transform into the ghost rider" is off a Method Man verse..triumph..ever herd of the Wu-tang clan? ------------- transform into the ghost rider |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:14am
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correction, YELLOW paint is sniper paint while WHITE paint is for ANTI TANK personel, ORANGE is the standard infantry paint...as for the noob comments, yes i find it very ammusing sitting in a bush, shooting them, and they not knowing where it came from...AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT LAUGHS AT UTTER CONFUSION? i play often at a place called Hit N' Run and it is pasically all woodsball with a few spedball courses...i play mostly on the speedball courses for practice when i go back to D-Day so i WONT be a noob and hide in a bush all day cuz im scared of getting the occasional pelt if i were to run and gun some1 down, u idiots that are saying im a half naked looser who is scared of getting shot are dead wrong...1st impression judgemental reactions wont get you too far in life. DeTrevni, im not letting them get to me, im actualy finding thier idiocy to be quite ammusing -------------
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:18am
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as for fourtyfiftysix...just cuz im half naked, random, and like to snipe (for the meer amusement of thier bewildered expression) doesnt mean im 10, i use bigger words than u in almost every post (and i would count on the 6 line "z" comment if you plan on retalliating to this comment) so it makes me believe your just wanting to act all high and mighty cuz your a little 12 year old or some age span younger than 1, or your just an old fart who has nothing beter to do than talk down to a person who is speaking thier mind about a (on) topic conflict -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:39am
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On the age comment: having decent or even mediocre spelling and grammar makes one look much more respectable.
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:41am
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the optomistic comment is much appreciated -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:42am
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My comment?
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 11:43am
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about good grammer...wow this has gone from gun comments, to sniper fights, to grammer usage...odd -------------
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 12:02pm
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:58pm
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does retired,aged geezer better suite your grammer need? -------------
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 2:59pm
if you dont want to see the debate, then dont go into this thread then, that simple -------------
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 6:50pm
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So ace of spades, What exactly do you do on the field that makes you a so called "sniper"? Please enlighten me? -------------
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 7:05pm
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nice and it starts again.... ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 14 January 2008 at 8:04pm
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hind n stuff :|, other then that i dont think he can really tell you? -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 2:21am
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Ironic post of the week. I added the bold type to highlight why and added my explanatory comments/corrections in red.
Maybe he's just speaking his mind as well. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:56am
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start from the beginning, spot out where everyone and the best place to hide as to get the shot that i want, crawl there and proceed to shoot them, after ive taken out a few most of the time i pop out and take off after the others, it all depends on how compromised my spot is as to what i will do or where i will move to next -------------
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:58am
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congratulations Mack, you can copy and paste to Word for spell checker...whoopty doo sorry i dont go through spell checker b4 every post -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 1:42pm
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I think you missed the point of my drawing attention to all of your spelling/grammar errors Ace. It was funny because you did it in a post where you were telling someone else (fourfiftysix) how much better your communication skills were than theirs. Edited to add the quote/correction below and for spelling/clarity:
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 1:57pm
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Ace, I told you. You will leave this debate in 2 ways: Whiny and mad because people are too mean for you here, or a changed man, who modified his past, incorrect views on the game of paintball based on intelligent (mostly), logical interjections. I made one sound a little more dignified than the other quite deliberately. And the grammar thing: Dang. You're on a FORUM, not AIM. You have all the time in the world to make sure your posts sound intelligent. Maybe more people would take you seriously or consider your position in debates if your posts read like a person who cared what he was arguing for. I don't even use spell checker. I make an attempt to make my posts easy to read and grammatically correct. It's not difficult. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 3:03pm
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no i wont leave whiney, or a changed man, as for the Forum thing, no i dont have all day to detail what i write, im a busy guy who has only a few minutes every so often a day to check and/or respond to a post NTM why should i HAVE to spell everything correctly? if you get my point, you get my point, spelling shouldnt matter, AND no my words DONT turn red when they are mispelled, can we please get off the grammer non-sense, i'll admit i was a little imature towards fortyfiftysix with my response, im just sick of hopping on every forum and when the word "sniper" is mentions, that person being called a noob and an idiot for his OPINION...in some cases just becasue they SAID sniper, they are ridiculed, it just upsets me a little bit -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:04pm
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:08pm
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Which no "sniper" has been able to do to date. And how is playing a position in paintball an opinion? We are each arguing about the facts behind the position. Playing the opinion card is a weak cop-out.
------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:18pm
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Opinions are always overrode by facts, sorry Ace.
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:12pm
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Ace, what you are describing as your sniper tactics are not unique to snipers at all. For the most part, the are the fundamental skills of paintball. Crawling works. People do it because of that fact. People do not avoid dropping below a standing position because they aren't snipers. Nothing you say makes you a sniper makes you any different from any other player, except for the waiting around bit. What are you doing to help your team? Clearly nothing in that period of time. Try moving on the field as the game progresses. Your "sniping" (actually simple ambush tactics) may make you feel like you've done a lot of help (eliminations are clearly the ONLY possible way to win in paintball), you've simply removed one player from your teams ability to complete whatever the game-winning objective is, be it a flag capture, VIP extraction, whatever. Seriously man. Learn to be a team player more than 25% of the time. I know your going to retaliate by saying that you ARE helping your team. I can tell you for certain you'd be helping them more by moving around. This doesn't even mean with the main force (if there is one). It just means move to assist others based on where the extra gun is needed. Your probably (read: hopefully) good enough to do this. Just do it. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:45pm
Holy crap ! It would take me all of 20 seconds to fix the spelling there. Don't go into this crap about having minutes. If you only have minutes of free time a day, why are you spending it on a paintball forum? If you want to legitimize your argument at all, you have to show that you made the effort to make yourself easy to read. Being to lazy to fix it makes nobody take you seriously no matter what you say. |
Posted By: +DreX+
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:49pm
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LOL Mack Pwnd you so badly I almost urinated myself. ------------- Insert Fail Here |
Posted By: fourfiftysix
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:42pm
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wow is Ace still going on about this???????? pm me when he is finished ------------- transform into the ghost rider |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:54pm
He was finished a while ago . . . he just hasn't realized it yet. -------------
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:41pm
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Mack, Damn you! It was my turn to pwn the ub3r 1337 5n1p3r! -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:47pm
Sorry.  You may have at him when he returns with a devastating rebuttal based on the fact that snipers exist in paintball because he "said so." (Just remind me.)-------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:25am
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It was gonna be my turn. I found 'im first. But I got tired of it. Watching's just as fun without having to keep up a steady stream of logic.
------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:35am
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(Sigh) Fine! I'll just go to the back of the forum and wait until someone tells me I can play with the other forumers again.
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 9:05am
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the way i see it, snipers in the real world hvae boundaries that are miles apart, also known as Borders and are able to take a shot from up to 1 mile away where as paintball will never be able to get that large of an area, so my thoughts are since the boundaries in paintball are so small, an extra 100ft is very substantial. a flatline, apex, etc are an equal to that real sniper being able to shoot one extra mile....BIG difference, so those who hvae flatlines and apex i refer to as snipers because they can just stay back and pick people off from a distance, while the others with normal barrels have to get 100ft closer in order to have a chance at getting those with the flatlines, apex, etc as for the time issue, i also check other things and im a very fast typer which is very handy, so i can check everything and give an opinion or.... retaliation in a short enough amount of time -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 9:29am
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The Flatline or Apex makes the ball float and it will not have a good chance at all of breaking at an extra 100 feet. The accuracy is also very debatable and tends to suffer greatly when it reaches that distance.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 10:49am
Skillet, well done. Just remember in paintball sniper debates it is usually necessary to point out the obvious. For instance, you just proved that "ones shot-one kills" are well nigh impossible for the players that Ace considers "snipers", thus quickly and efficiently negating his entire position. You could have more directly pointed out that he has abandoned his previous (tactics based) position regarding "snipers" without defending it by suddenly introducing backspin barrels into the argument. You also indirectly identified the fact that despite his "Yes, I'm a sniper . . ." signature and the snazzy little "sniper" sticker on his hopper the fact that he uses a Hammerhead barrel means that he doesn't even meet his own definition of "sniper." In other words, you completely annihilated his argument/credibility. You just have to remember to break it down for the newer folks who might be monitoring one of these debates. To finish, let me say it again; very good job. -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 10:52am
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I think I deserve a hug :P But yeah, this thread was getting far too ridiculous for me to not speak. -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 11:07am
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 11:16am
No, snipers also completely conceal themselves to hide. The enemy will not even know that they are there, this is not the case in paintball. 100 feet does little good if you can't use it accurately. 100 feet can be run in seconds, and then any advantage you had is now lost. It is not substantial unless you can use it accurately, which you cannot. I own an apex and I am definately not a sniper. The extra range only comes in handy every so often since i'd usually run up to well within normal range anyways before I even fire a single shot. Even if you could be a sniper, it would contribute little to your team. You would be a camper who waits outside the other team's ranges and tries to take one shot at a time and pray for a hit. |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:12pm
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it still manages to keep the enemy at a distance, or make them timid enough to hang back while the others who cant shoot as far to move up and thus getting a better feild advantage on the opposing team, as for the "snipers must be concealed and the 100ft does no justice" comment, well at D-day the "snipers" are hardcore people, i actually stepped over one and didnt know it till my buddy behind me shot him, so yes, granted 100ft is an easy distance to run, you can still miss them and not know until you are already out -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:45pm
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If you can keep someone at bay longballing them, then the people you play with suck. Also, by your definition, I am a sniper as well, even on a tournament field. I shoot and keep the enemy at bay and hope that I hit someone, and every now and then I do it by shooting slowly... soooo, am I a super l33t sniper yet? -------------
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 3:27pm
it looks as if im needing to bring this back into play, where i play at, most people ARE indeed nooblets b/c they have never played or hvae only the rare chance to get out to do so, so concequently me and my buddies use that to our advantage, i dont play in tourneys, im not sponsored, i dont get guns for free (unlike some here seriously, you know its more than just me out there who think that there ARE snipers in paintball, it will ALWAYS be a split decision and you will NEVER have 100% of the people on your side and (obviously) nor will I -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 3:56pm
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You completely ignored the part where I mentioned that your extra 100 feet is not an advantage at all, but in the long run a hindrance on the accuracy and impact of the paintball to the target.
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 3:59pm
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the balls seem to break and fly straight enough for my liking...i play airsoft as well so i know very well how hopup works, if it hits the mask or a slightly rough surface, since the ball is spinning so fast it will break, so i usually aim for the face, gun, foot, any area thats hard and rough is where i aim at because i KNOW it will break -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 4:21pm
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I've been bounced in the head multiple times at near pointblank range. So if your paint always breaks even at that distance, you must shoot some amazing, super accurate paint. Also, you have a Hammerhead, not an Apex. How do you shoot that far? -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 4:25pm
"it still manages to keep the enemy at a distance, or make them timid enough to hang back while the others who cant shoot as far to move up and thus getting a better feild advantage on the opposing team" This is not even close to what a sniper does. That was one of the most idiotic things said in this thread. "snipers must be concealed and the 100ft does no justice" comment, well at D-day the "snipers" are hardcore people, i actually stepped over one and didnt know it till my buddy behind me shot him, so yes, granted 100ft is an easy distance to run, you can still miss them and not know until you are already out" - I don't care about d-day elitist "snipers" - Either you were not watching or he was a tool... probably both -You could also miss someone in bright red speedball clothing standing behind a tree and get out, what is your point?
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Posted By: a5Tpp789
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:11pm
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i lol'd -------------  if you put 500 dollars into an A5 it is still an A5
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:29pm
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Do us the favor, try shooting your self in the face allready!
1. NOT ALL OF US GET FREE GUNS, Even if we are sponsored you still have to work for it!
2. This means you are giving up on the bs sniper debate. there for you lose.
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Posted By: +DreX+
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:37pm
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And dont forget, Rambo snipers dont wear shirts... I dont think you can blend in with that paleness. Its okay I'm pale too. ------------- Insert Fail Here |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 7:02pm
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He blends in alright... to the other sniper wannabes. Ace, just accept it. You've lost this debate, and I think you know it. Your argument for snipers keeps changing based on the last rebuttal. If you really wanted to have the slightest chance at convincing anyone, you should have put all your points into one post. Now you just look like your grasping at straws. And I say with all confidence that you are. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 17 January 2008 at 11:02am
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me and my friend switch out barrels, hes got a flatline and an apex, so we switch out on occasion, yes i know it bounces off your mask, what im saying is, the ridges and corners on the mask are what im trying for so the paint is more likely to break yeah sure im giving up b/c im getting a new gun while in speedball im just an ordinary player, i dont SNIPE in speedball becasue its just plain stupid, b/c your just in one spot letting the rest of your team suffer. im a SNIPER depending on what game type it is, im not CONSTANTLY a sniper like you guys obviously think i am, sorry for not clearing that up earlier -------------
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mmmm no, paintball is a GAME, scenario/speedball are two very different types of play, in scenario (which is what i play) there ARE snipers, they are classified as snipers because we are playing a SCENARIO of actual life...so theres ASSAULT, INFANTRY, ANTI TANK, SNIPERS, and on some occasions even MEDICS, so we are make ing a scenario out of actual wars and what not so the people are classified as such and what we are classified as is how we play the games, SNIPERS keep the opposition at bay and try to take out valuable targets (such as those with the fast guns) ASSAULT takes out the opposition at a closer range, ANTI-TANK (which isnt used much seeing as not very many people are up for converting thier cars into tank) obviously takes out tanks, MEDICS heal those who are injured...