Macbook Air
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Topic: Macbook Air
Posted By: choopie911
Subject: Macbook Air
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 3:54pm
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So as you guys saw in the other thread, new crap came out from apple today. Must say I'm a little surprised no-one has mentioned this:
http://www.apple.com/macbookair/ - Macbook Air |
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 3:55pm
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That is gonna break so fast...
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 3:55pm
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1300 ssd = 1@|\/|3
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 3:56pm
Yeah, its true, their laptops are known for their shoddy quality. Wait...I'm mistaken.... |
DeTrevni wrote:Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 3:58pm
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Don't get me involved in that computer crap. I don't know anything about it. I don't care anything about it. Logic says thin and flat = delicate. Experience says the same thing. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 3:59pm
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I agree, I would be paranoid about breaking it. But its still damn cool.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:02pm
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they should make a carbon fiber chassis available
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:03pm
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:20pm
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LOL. $3,000? Mac is so trendy. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> |
Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:23pm
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Thats pretty sweet, good to see someone pushing the envelope with laptops.
3 pounds and under an inch thick is win, and I'm not a mac fanboy. I wouldn't pay the 3000 price tag though. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:23pm
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Getting one soon.
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:23pm
As would any laptop. It's an electronic, if you act like a gorilla with that or a huge laptop, and knock it off a table, chances are both will break. ------------- 
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:38pm
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the 3000 price tag is just for the one with the SSD. for 1700 you can get the 80gb HD model
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:43pm
But then you've still put out a ton of money for something with little hard drive space. Basically, you are paying a lot of money for something that is just prettier. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:46pm
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80gb is small? you're not buying a hard drive, you're buying a computer. -------------
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:54pm
Apple has done a wonderful job creating tiny products without sacrificing durability and I'm sure the Air will be no different. ------------- 
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:56pm
Exactly, it is a sub notbook, it isn't supposed to be some hard core machine, it is supposed to be used for surfing the internet. Also lots of laptops come with an 80gig hard drive, so any argument about it being a small hard drive IMO is pointless. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 4:57pm
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mine came with a 30gb
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:08pm
If only there was some sort of invention where you could keep the hard drive on the outside. Externally storing it or something. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:18pm
Ahh but then you are spending even more money to get rid of all that portability and low weight that you paid all that extra money for in the first place... And yes, 80 gigs is small. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:20pm
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carl, You's bein' ignant
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:36pm
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:48pm
I agree with carl. For the price tag, I'd like so more major features rather than just pretty looks and light weight.
Negative. My HP Tablet has been dropped out the door of an Expedition (about 5 feet off the ground) onto the street. No damages. I've also seen numerous people drop their's off desks, drop them in hallways, and they've survived. Although I've gotta give Apple credit for making a laptop so thin. It would be real nice for just casual web surfing and document typing around the house, but who in their right mind would pay that kinda money for a casual household laptop? Of course, there are tons of those people. |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:56pm
| Meh, it's thin I guess. |
Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 5:57pm
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:05pm
QFT. I'm more of a Nike/Adidas t-shirt/hoodie guy. |
Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:06pm
Perfect. And you spend the extra money on those types of clothing because you like it right, even though there are cheaper clothes out there right? -------------
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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:16pm
| I think it's kinda dumb. My MBP is right about an inch thin and is a lot more powerful and even has an optical drive. For .24in less, you lose your optical drive, half your HD space, video card, lots of ports/expresscard slot, and some clock speed. Meh. |
Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:16pm
No. I buy them primarily because they are cheap, easy to find, and I can buy about 5 of them for the price of a shirt thats already ripped up, frayed, whatever it is that they do to their shirts and jeans. It addition to a great price, they are also decent looking, and you can wear them as casual shirts, workout shirts, work shirts, etc. No need to worry about ruining any shirts. |
Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:21pm
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:29pm
80 GB hard disc is a nice sized hard drive for a laptop. After all, a laptop is supposed to be your second, portable computer. The HDD in a laptop computer is much more likely to be dropped, stolen, die from overheating, etc than the hard drive that is tucked safely in your computer tower sitting stationary on a desk. With technology like VPN becoming more and more used with the availability of free high speed internet, you can easily access your file library quickly and securely almost anywhere you can take your laptop. I actually like the solid state hard drive idea...I know it's expensive, but that eliminates all the problems that you get with having a portable computer containing a fragile hard drive. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:30pm
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Tical is poor.
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:36pm
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:40pm
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I can't understand why they are calling this laptop the thinnest.. Intel has one thinner than this.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:44pm
Intel's is a concept. It wasn't made, and you can't buy it. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 6:53pm
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intel thin = air prototype?
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:30pm
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To lazy to look it up, does any one know what kind of ports the air has? ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:33pm
USB and a headphone jack are it, I think. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> 
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:40pm
Darn, I hope there is firwire, so much faster plus I have all firewire external drives. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:45pm
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Kickin, you would be better off and much happier with a macbook.
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:47pm
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Yes, I know I would probably never buy one of the airs, do to lack of
features, that I need. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:48pm
Very true. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:50pm
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I can see the airs hitting colleges like a flood.
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 7:53pm
Me to, I think this is a great product for apple, on g4 they stated it as it will fill that gap that apple needed to fill. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:04pm
The gap for crippled notebooks? |
Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:06pm
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When I was growing up in public school there was this retarded kid who got to use a mac while the rest of us had to use PC. So now whenever I think of Mac I think of retards.
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:08pm
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 8:10pm
ur mums? -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 11:15pm
Not to mention two to three times the price...
I would never buy any computer with only 80 gigs of memory. That is nothing at all, it would be full in a matter of hours. |
Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 11:20pm
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 11:29pm
Or games... A have a game that would take up half your laptop |
Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 11:37pm
Thats why I have a 360. I keep my computer for computer stuff -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 January 2008 at 11:41pm
That's nice but I much prefer PC gaming. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:05am
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80gb in a normal laptop is pretty crappy for today's laptops. Now, in a thin laptop like the air, it isn't as bad, capacity wise. But I think you are all missing the real reason the hard drive in it fails, "80GB 4200-rpm Parallel ATA hard disk drive." Slow, old technology. /insert Mac innovation joke Yeah, it is nice to see them offering solid state drives, but a P-ATA hard drive in such an "advanced" laptop? -------------
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:18am
80 GB of memory would be God's own computer. Hard drive space is storage. RAM is the machine's memory.
Laptops aren't built for gaming. Processors for mobile computing is designed to offer reasonable performance, while using the least amount of power, and generate the least amount of heat possible. Modern PC games require strong processors, not to mention the graphics processors. A desktop PC is much better suited for that task than even the highest end laptops. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:33am
A laptop can be just as good as anything else for games. |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:48am
Carl, I am not simply bickering with you for web forum superiority. You can buy a notebook computer with a processor and graphics card that is up to snuff to run the current batch of popular games, but you will spend a TON of money. Yes, you are right. It can be done. But anything that taxes your system resources (like PC gaming) is far better done on a desktop PC, where the current architecture supports the processing and graphics requirements. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:38am
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LOL no it can't. -------------
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Posted By: FlimFlam
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 9:52am
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The 4200RPM's is more of a hindrance than the P-ATA interface... I suspect it's been spec'd that way for power requirements. Not a lot of battery room in there I suspect... ------------- 
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 9:55am
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Biggest waste of money ever? I think so.
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Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 9:58am
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http://tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=167963&KW=iproduct - http://tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/forum_posts.asp?TID=167963& KW=iproduct
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 10:56am
Oh definately, and I never said it would be a good idea but it could definately be done. I would personally never spend the money on any computer that couldn't play the newest games and all games 1-2 years down the road.
Yes it can. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 11:23am
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I'd rather have something windows based and thicker. I'm sure its nice, but if I had a laptop I would want one of those super durable yellow/black ones that I saw people beating up on commercials a while back. Spending a butt-load of money on something and relying on it every day carrying it around means I need it to last. And as for windows based, I'm used to windows and thats why. I dont need the uber 1337 powers of a mac, and windows works fine. Accually, I am using a Mac right now in school and it isn't bad, so dont call me a "Mac Hater". Although the mouse sucks. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:18pm
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it makes me want to fold it into a paper airplane and throw it off a tower ------------- 
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 12:42pm
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LOL WHERE IS DA RIGHT CLICK
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 1:25pm
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carl, you dont really understand what its for. its not for uber 1337 WoW frames or to be used as a backup for all data ever. it was built to be a very light, easily portable laptop. In that purpose, i think it will serve nicely. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 1:41pm
Exactly, if I were an english or communications student, the air would be calling to me. In the tech program I'm in, I know it's not aimed at me.
Mac hater.
OMG TERRORIST! |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 2:03pm
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choopie911 Platinum Member  
Strike 1 - attacking USA - 9/11 OMG HYPOCRITE! -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 2:07pm
| How do you know how I attacked the USA? It could have been verbally, mentally, or even sexually. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 2:08pm
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the means isnt important, its still terrorism.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 2:09pm
| You're terrified of sex attacks? Weirdo. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 2:12pm
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im terriefied of your canadanese sex acts. you people do things differently up there, i dont want to take any chances. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 2:17pm
By differently, you mean better. You don't know sex until you've done it Canadian style. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 2:25pm
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I PHEAR CHANGE!
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 2:37pm
My 2nd gen Nano is pretty safely constructed I would say. But I still get a little paranoid. -------------
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 3:43pm
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how dare you turn my words around... i said "off" not "into"......... -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 3:56pm
I know what it is for but I just personalyl don't see the value in paying a ton of extra money for something a bit smaller and not even as good performance. |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:04pm
The mouse you are using is probably a puck mouse, which I agree completely, probably is one of the worst things that apple ever came out with. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:34pm
Then you don't want a laptop! |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 5:45pm
Or first gen mighty mouse...such a pain. |
Posted By: TheWarHam
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:16pm
Yeah the Air sucks. There's my baby. Innovation plus the will and power to progress forward is so 5 minutes ago. ------------- Indeedly |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:16pm
You can get that with a laptop. You can get a pc laptop with the specs to play all the games coming out over the next 1-2 years for less than a macbook. |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:16pm
Also, they keyboard with black keys or the pro keyboard whatever you wanna call it. It was all black with no backlighting so it is/was very hard to see in the dark. FIXED. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:18pm
Find me a laptop to play Crysis on. |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:23pm
That costs less than an apple. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:25pm
| Sure, go nuts. |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:26pm
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I am not going to look for it choop, I never plan to buy a windows box so
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:28pm
| Because you claim that you can buy a laptop that can handle any game out/ coming out for the next two years, for less than the macbook air. So put your money where your mouth is, lets see it. |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:29pm
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i wouldnt want a laptop that will only run for 2 hours, which is the max you could get from a gaming laptop.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:30pm
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Firstly, can you play crisis on a mac?
Secondly, are we talking building a computer or buying a premade? I was talking about building but I'm sure that I can still get a pre-built for cheaper. |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:31pm
When did I say that? ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:32pm
In terms of hardware, yes.
My mistake, Im not paying attention. Carl said it. |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:34pm
Alright, I was about to say... ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:36pm
| Yeah, I clearly wasn't paying enough attention. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:37pm
Can you play it softwarewise? Answer the second question. Less than a macbook air... so less than 3k? Must be able to play crisis... |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:39pm
I can't personally, but I don't know about choop either way, I would say make it less than a macbook pro. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:42pm
Well, technically yes. It depends on your question, does it have to be on os x? You technically CAN play games emulated on os x. I've played CS:S and TF2 on osx. If you're speaking strictly in terms of using that physical computer, then you can use bootcamp and run xp natively to play it. Now, in terms of hardware, I don't know the specs on crysis, I just know they're nuts. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:48pm
Specs on crysis aren't that bad. It probably has the largest demand from any game released last year but that will be replaced quickly. http://www.crysis-online.com/InformationSystem%20Requirements/ - http://www.crysis-online.com/Information/System%20Requiremen ts/ Please answer my other questions though: 1) Are we talking building a computer or buying a premade? 2) Less than a macbook air... so less than 3k? 3) Must be able to play crisis or must be able to play all the games coming out over the next 1-2 years? |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 8:57pm
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 January 2008 at 9:04pm
I will wait for choopie to chime in for that I don't need the specs on all the games coming out over the next 1-2 years. Or should I just build a laptop that is equal/better than a macbook for less money? |