Project Log: Tippmann e98 *Update 2/10*
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Topic: Project Log: Tippmann e98 *Update 2/10*
Posted By: DeTrevni
Subject: Project Log: Tippmann e98 *Update 2/10*
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 2:12am
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Inspiration hit. I just HAD to start with this thing again. I needed to fix it anyway (h00ge shoot-down problem), so I might as well do... stuff... to it. We'll see how it turns out. Total Spent:
Update 2/8/2008 Okay so it wasn't milling. My first sin against Velcor, the god of paintball, is this ram. It has been 2-wayed, and I added dual Clippard QEV's I had lying around. This was way easier by FAR to 2-way than I thought it was going to be. Psychoballistics rams are all pre drilled and tapped for 2-way operation. Just pull the spring and seal everything and you're good to go. Only problem is the internal extension of the ram is so thick, the QEV on the top will have to be visible. I'm hoping I can make it look not ghetto. But, this project is form follows function, so we'll see. Good news is, the bottom QEV will be internal.
Update 2/10/2008 So I milled the receivers to fit the modded ram. I say assmebled, it looks pretty good. Surprisingly clean. Some pics of the dremel work (to be seen in the general area of the cocking slot and just northwest of where your thumb grips the frame):
Some pics of the ram in position (note the air channel needed for the hose on the opposite side of the ram [I thought that bit was clever
And a pic of the ram and receiver halves assembled:
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Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:17am
| Get rid of the Palmer and much of your shoot-down will disappear. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:28am
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You think so? How ya figure? I always thought Palmers' had quick recharge rates... It has been sitting for years, but it's brand new (by that, I mean it's never been used). Maybe it needs a rebuild/cleaning? ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 9:44am
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I wouldn't open up the guts, personally. Exposing your internals to dirt and all sorts of lovely things is probably not a good way to keep a gun in working condition.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 10:24am
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The gills make that gun. Don't mill them out. I would mill off as much as I could though.
------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 10:36am
That's what I just told him through PM. He's getting a spiked first shot with shoot-down afterwards. It's the LPR, plain and simple. It's creeping for the first shot and then going to regular recharge rates after that. That said, DeTrevni, have you broken in that rock yet? Or is it brand-spanking-new? ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Lightningbolt wrote:Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 10:48am
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QUOTE=sinisterNorth]The gills make that gun. Don't mill them out. I would mill off as much as I could though.
[/QUOTE] QFT. I always thought Palmer's were pretty reliable as well, but my experience with their products is limited to stabilizers. One other thing to consider besides removing the LPR is that the x-chamber could be restricting air flow as well. I've seen the problem occur when people upgraded from CO2 to HP air. Not being real fond of LP air, I'm not positive that similar issues would occur in your situation but it's probably worth trying if the problem remains after removing the Palmer's. Again, so there is no misunderstanding: Do not get rid of the gills. ------------- 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 1:15pm
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Get rid of the gills? No, you guys are misunderstanding me. I was debating milling between the gills. Milling out the recessions to make "porting," I guess you can call it. But, as Skillet pointed out, dirt is my biggest concern. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 2:02pm
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yeah, i wouldn't do that. get a nice trigger, new lpr, centerfeed that beast, and start rippin up the field. if you want to get crazy, you could always retrofit a matrix frame onto it. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 2:10pm
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It's a Palmer's, so rebuilding it may be more affordable and just as functional. The trigger guard is part of the shells, so some cutting and drilling to fit a new guard would be necessary to get a new trigger on there. I'm looking at a new Scenario Dreams Universal T-Board to power it. They are only $54, about the size of a quarter, and only limited to the CPS cap of your marker. I wanna use one of those Fang triggers. I love the way they look. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 2:26pm
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Can't wait for my ebolt deal to go through I am so stoked right now.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 2:33pm
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It was your thread that inspired me.
------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: SRT-4
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:04pm
Oh dang, another ebolt-ed 98. Makes me want to do another project.  You should let me mess around with that.  |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:13pm
Sorry. This one is MY project! 
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Posted By: SRT-4
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:16pm
Best of luck. Remember, fight the temptation to buy every possible thing created for 98 for it.  |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:24pm
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Detrev throw some macro on that beast, it will make it look a little better.
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Posted By: mamasboi
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:24pm
| with the money you saved by being slow on the purchase NDFS-7 you can put that money into this. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:27pm
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^^^ True. Maybe Skillet will even let me play with it at Houston NPPL! (Kinda an inside joke.) ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:28pm
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Do not make me kill you, DeTrevni.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 24 January 2008 at 8:30pm
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Wow. Death threat and all. That was faster than I expected. Who knows, maybe by the time I'm done, you'll respect!
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 2:40am
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Updated. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 3:01am
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Mill out a section in the rear sight area for the QEV to sit in, then paint it black. Problem solved. Looking good so far! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 3:16am
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Actually, the airways are perpendicular to each other, so the QEV on the top (which is actually the left side of the ram) lines up with the cocking slot. Widen the slot a bit, and it will slip right through, and allow room for the hoses to work. This is actually coming together quite nicely so far! Almost like it's falling together. Which means something's about to go seriously wrong... Edit: Crap. That means I'm going to need to relocate the battery... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 3:36am
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What board are you using?
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Posted By: SRT-4
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 11:05am
Jeez, that is a uniquely 2 wayed ram, never seen them two wayed from the front. You realize that the placement of the 10-32 holes for 2 ways are placed in the front and back for a reason yes? One has to push air forward, and the other returns. I'm not sure that the way you did it will allow for correct ram operation. 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 2:32pm
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To quote from a web comic I really like (Cyanide and Happiness), "You'd think so, but you'd be wrong." The bottom 10-32 hole leads to an air channel that fees air to the back of the ram, pushing the ram forward. The 10-32 hole on the left of the ram is straight through, leading to the front of the ram, pushing it back again. No worries! Tallen, I plan on using the Universal T-Board, which is about the size of a nickel, so I may be able to place the battery in the grip, and the solenoid above that. The board may fit snugly behind the trigger. If that doesn't work, I'll get an inline Palmers regulator that feeds directly into the valve, and fit the battery in the foregrip. I forgot who did that mod, but I'd give credit to him for that one. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 4:40pm
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cool cant wait for more pics. ------------- 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 5:01pm
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Well, up next is going to be the milling. Then I'm gonna purchase the board. Only costs $50. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 3:30am
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Updated once more. Now I need to think about how I want this to look cosmetically. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 8:30pm
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it's coming along quite nicely. -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 8:32pm
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I'm trying to sand out the foregrip so I can squeze a battery in there. NOT EASY. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 8:44pm
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so i see, you useing a dremeil? or hand file? -------------
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 9:07pm
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Looking good so far, DeTrev.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 10:08pm
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After screwing up one foregrip, I figured it out on the 2nd! I won't post pics yet, until I get the rest of the wiring done. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: keeprollin02
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 10:52pm
Dont get a SD universal board...then there would be way too many ebolted 98 customs out there with them. Seeing as how both Macgyver and I both have ours in hand. 
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