R.I.P. Dodge Viper
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Topic: R.I.P. Dodge Viper
Posted By: tallen702
Subject: R.I.P. Dodge Viper
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 2:25am
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1992-2011
Actually, it wasn't even supposed to make it to this (the fourth) generation. As it is, there will be two versions rolling off assembly lines until the 2011 mark when Chrysler plans to axe the semi-supercar in preference for a more "attainable" high-end along the pricing lines of the Corvette. All in all, Chrysler is trimming their line (all lines) by at least half and focusing on core consumer needs in it's self-proclaimed "genesis" phase of re-alignment. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 2:58am
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AWW BOOO! 2000 Viper = my favorite year. Just before the new style came out. I love those cars. But my favorite car ever was a Hennessey Venom 650, which was a turbo-Viper. I LOVE Vipers! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 3:47am
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The Viper is beautiful-but also overpriced, overpowered, and underequipped. Of course, if you want complete overkill, then the Viper's the way to go. Otherwise, the Z06 'Vette gives you more in pretty much every area.
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 6:44am
Except the poon, which is what having a Dodge Viper is really all about. ------------- 
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stratoaxe wrote:Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 8:04am
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5 years (or less) after the last one rolls off the assembly line, they'll bring it back due to popular demand, add $100k to the price and laugh all the way to the bank.
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 8:47am
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overall mopars suck... however the new challenger makes me cream...(and the old challengers/cudas) imo the best looking cars in American history came out between 67 and 72
they need something that can compete with the mustang gt AND v6... however last i checked their challenger was only going to be offered with a v8 for 35kish gm is doing the same thing with the new camaro. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 9:05am
That was the idea in the beginning but with the market these days you knew they were going to give in to putting a 6cyl in there. The first year of the challenger is only suppose to be auto too. As for the camaro, their contemplating making a hybrid version. |
Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 9:25am
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 10:15am
| I saw the new corvette and viper a few weeks ago. Pretty sweet. |
Posted By: ultimatetrooper
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 10:16am
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One of my friends is picking up a 96' viper with 12k miles for under $30,000.
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Posted By: Smitty
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 10:17am
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 10:22am
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They should have at least turboed that V10.
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 11:03am
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NOOOOO. The viper is probably my favorite car in the world. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 1:13pm
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Used to be my favorite car. I have a model of one that I built in my room somewhere.
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 2:42pm
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mopar has been discontinuing a lot of their cars lately.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 2:54pm
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Z06 owners, prepare to piss yourselves. Nissan GTR VR-series twin-turbocharged 3.8-liter V6. 480 hp @ 6,400 rpm. 430 lb-ft torque @ 3,2005,200 rpm. Dual overhead camshafts with variable intake-valve timing. Cast aluminum cylinder block with high-endurance/low-friction plasma-sprayed bores. IHI twin turbochargers, one per cylinder bank. Pressurized lubrication system with thermostatically controlled cooling. Performance
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 3:19pm
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Google Hennessey. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 3:39pm
Don't forget its limited to 111MPH unless your at a pre approved track, and after a track day you have to pay for a 1000 dollar safety check or else your warranty is void. And if you want after market wheels you will have to put up with seeing an error code on your dash. ------------- |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 3:46pm
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American muscle should be supercharged not turboed... leave turbos to the ricers...
and on a side note arnt Nissan high performance cars crazy expensive? ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 4:08pm
If 70K is super expensive... -------------
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 4:09pm
I strongly disagree with the 'merican muscle should be supercharged.  'merican muscle with a ricer turbo ------------- |
Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 4:11pm
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 6:35pm
Because a car should really be going 111 MPH on a public street. Considering public safety should be frowned upon of course, especially when it gets in the way of your wicked kool street racing dude! |
Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 8:24pm
The faster you go the less ouch when you crash. Just like not wearing a helmet while riding a motorcycle. ------------- |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 10:42pm
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I prefer superchargers, but at least turbo. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi__60ZT1wI - Listen to this supercharger whine, one of my favorite sounds. -------------
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 11:34pm
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 11:40pm
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Funny guy...
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 11:47pm
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I swear dye playa is a ricer kid, I just know it.
You know that he is the kind of kid with a gigantic spoiler, and oversized muffler on his '95 honda civic (hatchback of course) who drives downtown at two in the morning blasting his rap music through his POS (to everyone else) speaker system that you know he spent more on than his car. I despise anyone who fulfills one or more of those listed qualities. /rant |
Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 09 February 2008 at 11:53pm
Try a jeep wrangler bud. And glad to see you two can pick up sarcasm, next time I'll make sure to add the "LULZ0RZ" so even you guys can pick up on it  .
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 12:52am
Ehh for now... So you would fit into the 0.000001% of people who take their suv's offroad? Do you actually go places where it is required? Everytime you post in acar related thread, I ger more and more of a feeling that you are a ricer kid. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:32am
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I <3 my Bui... ... Well, you know. But I <3 it. I've given up on performance dreams (at least on my Skylark), and wouldn't mind making it the ultimate driver. It's already a big, heavy car with a soft suspension, so it pretty much glides. I wouldn't mind redoing the upholstry, and maybe getting some nice wood trim on the inside. Maybe an even better suspension later down the road, and a smoother transmission. Preferably automatic. I want to sit in that car, and feel like I'm floating on a cloud. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:39am
Basically a pimp mobile? |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:40am
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Minus the purple metallic paint job.
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:40am
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:42am
No. A luxury car. It IS a Buick after all. Pimpmobile = 22" Dubs, thumpin' system, dumb paint job and more chrome than a, well, whatever has a lot of chrome. I wouldn't dare defile my car in such a way. I wouldn't mind a nice, balanced system though. Maybe Bose. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:42am
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:46am
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Wheres kickin with pics of him and his truck ?
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:48am
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That truck is ballin' don't hate on his sweet hood scoop. -------------
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:52am
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I can't help it, that pic of him standing next to it....
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:53am
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lol.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 2:15am
I stand firm in my conviction that your car would look incredible dropped a few inches and with some big, but not massive, classy yet showy rims. Just pimp enough to be eye catching without being gaudy is a very hard look to achieve, but it looks great when you get there. ------------- 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 3:34am
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Well, in all honesty, when my big butt is in the front seat, what with the soft suspension and all, it drops quite noticably. I will agree that I think it looks great, but I wouldn't actually low-ride it. And I love my Cragar S/S's. Just the right size and chrome content.
(Sorry, the pic was obligatory...) Whale, you bring up a valid consideration. I'll have to do a sketch or two. If I didn't live in Texas, black would be a great color for her too, I think. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 3:57am
That's what's known as the Mercury Grand Marquis, my friend. I usually prefer GM products, but I have to say it's one hell of a car. Floating on a cloud at 120... oh yeah.  -------------
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 10:45am
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I wouldn't worry about it detrev, you've got a nice classic car there.
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Posted By: thebuickguy
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 11:25am
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American Muscle was first turbocharged from the factory not supercharged BUICK GN ftw
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 11:31am
The 79 came with a turbo from the factory as well. But if I had a choice I'd still take the super   -------------
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 11:37am
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DeTrevni drop an olds rocket in that sucker and let her rip...
dident 79 stangs come with 4cyl engines? was it the fox bodies that had 4cyles or the series between the 71-73 and the fox bodies? ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 11:45am
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Fox body's came with 4 the 4 bangers and the 302 V*, the 79 also came with a 6 cylinder. But there was also just a 4 banger or the turboed, ours is turbo but we're droppin a built 302 into it. So the turbo 4 bangers is gettin yanked.
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 12:05pm
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if its a true cobra with the 4 turbo leave it in or save it... it will be worth a lot more money ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 12:31pm
What does it matter to you where HE drives HIS car and why? It's his car. He can do with it what he wants. Don't be so condescending. It makes you look like a toolbag. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 12:40pm
We're not going to be hacking the body or anything. We will probably keep the original drivetrain so we can restore it if we ever want to. -------------
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:27pm
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:42pm
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I could never stand the late 70's early 80's mustang bodies. They just aren't sexy to me.
Back on the original subject. Just saw where Chrysler is now contacting other companies (Japanese and Domestic) to see about using their underpinnings and just slapping a Chrysler body on it and tweaking the mechanics a bit to save on costs. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 5:59pm
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^maybe the quality of chrysler cars will go up... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: RfUiLreZ
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 7:47pm
As far as I knew, and believe me I know alot, pretty much every engine block made since forever ago has a pressurized lubrication system. Also since forever ago, cars have come with a thermostat to control the cooling of the engine? I mean, ya know...Oil pump in the pan creates flow, which in turn creates pressure due to the restriction. Thermostat in the...thermostat housing, stays closed until temperature reaches predetermined level, and then opens. Leave it to the Japanese to try to make stuff that has been around on cars since forever seem super technical.... |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 7:55pm
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Dye Playa, I am shocked you don't wheel your Wrangler. -------------
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 8:15pm
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Posted By: Sammy
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 8:59pm
Where did you hear those claims? http://www.autospies.com/news/Japanese-Spec-Nissan-GT-R-Gets-Tamed-What-about-US-Spec-24684/ - http://www.autospies.com/news/Japanese-Spec-Nissan-GT-R-Gets -Tamed-What-about-US-Spec-24684/ They are limited to 110mph in Japan, along with most cars (Including BMWs, Mercedes, and other German models) The US version will be 155, like most high end german cars.. ------------- 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 9:56pm
Maybe I will sprout wings and fly around. I love Jeeps, but I could never get into any other Chrysler product. -------------
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 9:59pm
The world knows I am not a fan of trevni's car, but one of my favorite features is actually the wheels. Stylish, but perfectly consistent with the times (are they original?). Big rims on an old car are anachronistic and just look out of place to me. Dropping a couple of inches would be ok, I guess. That, and the GT-R is ugly as heck. I am sure it drives well, but I like my cars to be not ugly, at least if I am paying a bunch. A car like that should be making a positive visual statement, not just look a recycled Maxima. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 10:04pm
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^ the jeep (that turned into the wrangler) was designed long before chrysler got its hands on it. its a great design but it needs a 350(chevy) dropped in it to make it worth a damn.
they can make cars that look great and some have performance stats but long term quality is null. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 10:54pm
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This thread needs more American Muscle. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KE1wQ_DxvVQ - Ricer Flyby gets shut down. -------------
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 11:48pm
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Just for you HP www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0y-SnVvYE - www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0y-SnVvYE www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwKD7TEH1o0 - www.youtube.com/watch?v=RwKD7TEH1o0 -Edit. I can't link worth a damn so yeah... -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 7:51am
You remind Me of the type of kids who get new Mustang V6s that they think are faster than everything, until my SE-R shut them down. BTW, the video you posted of a Supercharged Cobra beating a stock B15 thats only pushing 140 at the crank is stupid. That Mustang is modded and was originally over priced 2x what the b15 was. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 1:44pm
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I like it when some kid with a little 4-banger (or even most V6's) try and tell me their car is faster, then I blow them out of the water.
People just don't seem to understand that I have 4.6L V8, which is what a police cruiser uses. Not monstrous, but more than enough to beat the pants off most "ricer kids." And that's stock.  -------------
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 2:05pm
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i was driving back from walmart in my 2.0l Focus zx3 the other night and some guy in a new Pontiac GTO kept trying to race me. i hope his it made his peen bigger knowing that he could beat my 120hp focus. ------------- 
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 2:46pm
Nah, personally I think they shouldn't make sixxer stangs, they're pointless. You might as well just buy a more luxury based daily driver with the money rather than those failstang sixxer. And the point of the video was that he did a flyby and got owned. -------------
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 2:47pm
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Man.. I dont think they coulve made the Viper look any better anyway.. but to know they will end the Viper line is very saddening for me, I love these cars. I will take a Viper over any other car eve. I really want a 97 GTS, though a New Coupe would be nice as well. oh well, Im sure i will still be able to find one in the future. **Turbos will always make more power than a Supercharger. Also multiple Turbos can be added to an engine, you can only have a single Supercharger. Supepchargers sound better yes, but arent near as good as Turbos. ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 2:50pm
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My aunt used to have a green convertible Viper. It's a shame she sold it..
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 3:07pm
And whats the point of that? How many times do you muscle fanatics get shut down by some of the bigger guys in the tuning world (Evo, STI, ect.). Big engine =/= fast I have read of Evos that are pushing nearly 1000HP on a 4 banger. Don't get Me wrong I love Mustangs (even the new V6, its cheap and fun to drive). -------------
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 3:23pm
Not trying to start a debate or anything but I love seeing ricers get shut down, there is a difference between a ricer doing a flyby and a fast, well built tuner. I have nothing against true tuners, just the fools who try to imitate them or who act like they're hot stuff in their near stock car. Also kids like this. Not how the goat is slowing down, I think he drives around video taping flybys and claiming he beat them in a race... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKbLtVQtuig - classic example -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 3:42pm
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I would kill for a Grand National.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 3:48pm
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This has always been one of my favorite youtube vids, this caddy is sick! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2lM5SdMVlc - Awesome -------------
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 3:49pm
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I like muscle more than tuner. Something about the sound, the looks, just the whole aura that a nice muscle car encompasses. Not saying that it is the fastest car or anything like that, and no, they don't handle like an awd rice burner, but I just like them better.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 3:53pm
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I prefer muscle as well, even if some aren't as fast as tuners. I'm willing to sacrifice some speed for the coolness.
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 3:57pm
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Waste of a nice caddy.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:04pm
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I say ditch the scoop, put exhaust cutouts on it and you have one bad ass sleeper.
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:22pm
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I say they never should have put that Motor in it. Who would want to drive around a caddy that sounds like a 18 wheeler?
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:22pm
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Muscle is just raw power I don't care that it isn't tuned to the finest precision there is just something about them.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:26pm
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Jesus cries because people think this is cool. ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:34pm
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:34pm
Are you kidding me ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJSfU4LRPVA - This sounds like a semi if anything. I love diesel trucks with stacks -------------
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:38pm
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Your redneckery knows no bounds
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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:41pm
Honestly, that caddy is beyond obnoxious. -------------
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:41pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9QTax9RMzk - Redneckery you say ?
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:44pm
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:47pm
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ejDtDHltT9s - http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ejDtDHltT9s Theres your semi truck sound. A powerstroke is a V8 diesel and only has the slight diesel knock of a semi. A dodge cummins diesel is an I6 which 99% of diesel semis use as an engine type(the I6 not the cummins) tical, You obviously have never been around cars with built V8's or really listened to a semi's exhaust. ------------- |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 4:59pm
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 5:00pm
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636 your vid wouldn't load. But heres a kid that goes to my school. This is his daily driver. It's a turboed 6. http://video.thedieselgarage.com/search/turkey+day/0/f0c5fa0d-68c3-4adb-82ac-99ee00bd8df7.htm - Link -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 5:00pm
I hope to God you don't actually like that. -------------
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 5:04pm
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If I drove a diesel, I would get http://video.thedieselgarage.com/search/stacks/0/5c06ac54-3d70-45dc-8c2a-9816000d2aff.htm - stacks
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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 6:14pm
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 6:16pm
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I confess, I liked the Caddy vid. Not because of the car, but the motor. That's about as street legal as a top-fuel dragster.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 8:32pm
Why in Gods name would you want to do that. -------------
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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 8:42pm
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 February 2008 at 11:45pm
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I have an appreciation for raw, unadulterated power. Absolutely useless, obnoxious, and not really functional in all technical (the latest "in" apparently) tracks, but there's something about the rumble of an American V8 (it doesn't even have to be big block) that does it for me car wise. Tical, you should really go to a serious drag race one day. You can literally feel the power oozing from those motors as they fly by you. Would I put a 570 in a new Caddy? No. Waste of a Caddy. Would I kill your mom for that motor? Probably. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: BooksAndLeaves
Date Posted: 12 February 2008 at 3:37am
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 12 February 2008 at 5:59am
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A 572 in a four door luxury car is...disurbing. Unless it's a mid-90's Impala. Then it's just cool.  -------------
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