Anyone shoot IDPA or USPSA?
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Topic: Anyone shoot IDPA or USPSA?
Posted By: ShortyBP
Subject: Anyone shoot IDPA or USPSA?
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:47pm
Figured it was a stretch... but thought maybe some folks did... Kayback was first to come to mind, at least for the IDPA (or ISPC). 
Even though I am not comfortable with my own skills, I've been invited to observe and even participate in local matches. I'm eager to give it a shot, but am a bit anxious. From what I've heard from other novice shooters, the local groups are very friendly and supportive to everyone, especially new folks expressing interest. Just wondering if anyone here had any personal experience with anything of the like? And for those not familiar: http://www.idpa.com/ - IDPA http://www.uspsa.org/ - USPSA |
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 1:52pm
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Never done it but I wouldn't mind trying.
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 2:07pm
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Whats the worst thing that could happen(other than the rifle exploding or something)? I say go for it. It cant hurt. ------------- 
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 2:09pm
Hehe. Well... I'd start off with just pistol. I won't get into 3-gun to start. Worst that could happen? Nothing, really. I'm not worried about doing poorly, as I'd be going into it expecting to do poorly. 
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SSOK wrote:Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 2:11pm
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Are you a good shot ? If so then don't worry about it.
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 4:34pm
This is the reason you would do poorly then. ------------- 
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 4:37pm
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I want to do rifle target shooting. I think it'd be fun. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 4:48pm
My point was... my apprehension is NOT due to fear of embarrassment. I have no concern of doing badly in front of strangers. With no formal training in shooting, and absolutely no experience in drawing a weapon from holster, I do not expect to do "well" (when compared to those there who have experience). That's not to say I wouldn't try. |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 5:03pm
you havent seen Shorty's Modified Weaver Stance have you? ------------- 
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 7:12pm
Have you ever considered IDPA or IPSC? They hold IDPA comps three time a month at the S&W range by you. And the IDPA Winter Nationals are being held there next week (18th-23rd) |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 10 February 2008 at 7:38pm
I know, I found out last thursday when I went to the Range. Been plinging with subnosed .357 testing their hammerless models for conceal carry. As to shoot competitive. I am a Machine Gunner plinging paper at the slow rate is as boring as cooking Molases. O BTW I found out today that in a 2002 ADMINMAR my parts of my BLT where Awarded the Coveted Marine Combat Action Ribbon for Operation Silver Wake. Have a contact number to call but I know of the incident that sparked the Ribbon so I am in like Flint. Now I have serrious Jarhead Grunt credibity. -------------
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Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 12 February 2008 at 8:52am
Well you are right. I do shoot IDPA. Just not with my 1911 any time soon.
The thing about IDPA is it's mostly close range shooting. I can't shoot worth a damn at 25m with my pistol, but at the sub 10m you use in IDPA I can make overlapping holes. The best thing about IDPA is you get to move and shoot. Something you can't do on most other ranges. Best thing to do is DL a copy of the rulebook and read it a couple of times. Don't get too hung up on it though, the people will teach you what you need to know as you go along. My local club runs New Shooter Orientations each time we shoot IDPA. This is where we explain things to them, and get them "in the know". All you have to do to shoot IDPA is be competent with the handling of your firearm, obey the 4 saftey laws, and listen to the range/saftey officers. If you can load, unload, holster, draw and manipulate your firearm safely, you can shoot IDPA. Don't worry too much if you can't do it 100% like the other guys. So long as you are safe, they will teach you. The more you do it, the better it will become. Even though things are done on the clock, forget about it. Just run through the drills at your own speed. The slower you go the more chance there is of keeping your head if something goes pear shaped. Keep the gun downrange at all times. Even if you have a malfunction, make the SO or RO aware of it, and if you can't fix it yourself, they will. Read the rulebook to familiarise yourself with the sport, but don't try memorise it yet. The important things are to listen to the shoot briefing, and listen to the range commands. Simply put these are : "Range is (Hot-Live-Closed)" : This means everyone not shooting must be behind the saftey line, and shooting is about to commence. "Shooter, Facing downrange load and make ready". This is the command to draw your firearm, slap a mag in it, and chamber a round. Depending on your gun and the size of your mags, you might need to top up the 8 round mags on a 1911 style gun or something. Then either put the saftey on, or decock the gun, again depending on the type and action of the gun. Then holster it. Once it's in the holster and loaded, don't touch it agian until the buzzer. Then make sure you have your eye and ear protection on. The RO should ask "Shooter are you ready". You don't have to acknowledge this if you are. Only mention if you are not. The next command it "Standby" This means the shoot is about to start, and the go buzzer is the next thing to expect. The timer will buzz anything from immediately to 5 seconds from the Standby command. On the buzz, draw your firearm and shoot the string as per the briefing. When you are finished the RO will say something like "Shooter, if you are finished, unload and show clear.". This is your instruction to drop the mag and pull the slide back to eject the chambered round. The RO must be able to visually inspect the chamber to ensure the gun is eampty. "Slide fowards" Easy, let the slide go fowards. "Hammer down" This is the command to pull the trigger to drop the hammer. DO NOT USE A HAMMER LOWERING DEVICE OR RIDE THE HAMMER FORWARDS. This is to prove 100% for the final time there are no bullets in the chamber. Even if you and the RO messed up somewhere, this should fire the round safely into the backstop. "Holster". Easy, put the gun into the holster. "Range is {cold-open-safe) Go forwards and score" Easy, you can walk around the range. Your job here is to pick up any dropped mags or live rounds and follow the scorer to the targets to see how you did and check their scoring. And that's about all you'll need for a new shooter. Things like reload-with-retention, emergency reloads, tactical priority and the like will all be explained later, as you get more proficient and by the RO at each stage, if he knows you are new, and he is a decent RO. KBK |
Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 12 February 2008 at 6:30pm
ACK! Squib? Factory or reload? Thanks for the info. I had a feeling if anyone here participated in these events, it'd be you. Local match a week from today. I am not signing up for it, but will be going just to observe. Might try for a different match three weeks from now. After some debate amongst myself... will probably start with my P01 rather than my 1911... if anything, because I have 3x more 9mm stashed than 45ACP. Thanks for the insight! I'm still a bit apprehensive... I hate being the __NG... but I'm excited. |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 4:25am
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Handload. My own to boot. I can't even blame anyone else.
Was shooting a standards shoot. This one was "on the buzzer retreat and egange targets 1-3 with 2 shots each, while moving". Beeeeep. draw, step, bang step, bang, step, bang, step, bang, step, Click (CLICK? **edited** ?) stop stepping, drop mag, rack slide.... well try to. The bushing was jammed on the bulge. There wasn't any indication of a squib. It recoilded fully, it souded full, and the next round fed 100%. The recovered case was clean as well. Just one of those things. I've reloaded thousands of rounds, very very carefuly, and I get a bloody squib. Basically all the money I've saved, I'm now spending on gettign a new barrel. Fortunately I also reload to tailor make my loads. (210 grain semi wadcutters at 950fps). Barrel is getting the once over by the gunsmiths, to see if it can be salaved, but I'm also in the process of getting an STI barrel (and in South Africa it IS a process). Anyway, back on topic, nothing wrong with being the _NG. Someone has to. I've been shooting IDPA for a 4 years, I'm a qualified Saftey Officer, and I'm STILL a _NG compared to most the other shooters. Relax, enjoy yourself, learn something (however small it might be so you can build on it next time) and be safe. Are you taking about a CZ-75 P01? If so that's a double action/single action gun hey? according to IDPA rules, you have to start with it in Double action mode (IIRC). This means your first shot will have to be double action, the rest single action. This could throw your game off. The 1911 is single action all the way. It's holstered cocked and locked. Draw, disengage saftey, squeeze trigger. Each trigger pull will be the same. However, that's a concern for later down the path. Take the P01, it'll do you fine. And don't use my reloads :P KBK |
Posted By: FlimFlam
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 9:01am
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At least he doesn't have to chrono... ------------- 
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Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 9:09am
Yep. I know I'll have to start from decock, and that will definitely affect where my first round goes. I won't use reloads. At least to start... I'm in the process of setting up my bench and my first press. And the round I decided to try first... 45ACP. I'll try not to make a KBK load.
Don't speak too soon. I don't think my local match uses 'em... but chronos do play a part in some competition. As if my skill hurdle wasn't high enough... I gotta contend with my nemesis.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 10:16am
| who here shoots in service rifle matches? |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 1:36pm
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I've shot in some cadet rifle matches. Done pretty well too. L81 .762 I have no idea what you guys are talking about though.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 2:44pm
| Pistol matches.Speed shooting match I believe. I watched a few on the Outdoors channel. Looks fun. |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 2:46pm
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Shorty, yeah, that's how I started as well. (Except with my 1911). I've got over 1.5K once fired .45ACP cases from shooting factory ammo.
Just make sure you shoot boxer primed ammo, and pick up your brass (If your range allows it of course). KBK |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 2:55pm
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IDPA is the International Defensive Pistol Association.
It's a semi real world based shooting sport. Shooting is done on humanoid targets, at real world type of ranges, and with real world types of scenario's. All equipment is meant to be of the sort you can carry daily, concealed. No string is more than 18 shots, so revolvers can compete with one full cylinder and two reloads. You have to move and shoot as if the cardboard could shoot back. So no jumping into a doorway and blasting 3 targets IPSC style. You have to slice the pie and shoot them one at a time, as they become visible.... It's good clean fun, with a small smidgen of real world application. It isn't combat training by a long shot, but I'd put my money on an IDPA shooter over a person who hasn't had any training. KBK |
Posted By: Kayback
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 3:08pm
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JxbypHDyy4 - IPSC
This is a video from you tube. Obviously I don't know the scenario, but it looks like the briefing would go something like : You are talking to a person when three of his friends show up. He produces a knife and tries to mug you, you knock him over and run ot cover and engage his accomplaces who all prodcue guns. Or something like that. The string description would read Start at Position one, back to the targets. On the buzzer knock over (T1) and run to position two. From behind cover engage targets 2-5 in tactical priority, two to center mass one to the head. There is one no shoot target. All it really is, is a bastardization of the Mozambique drill,and the El presidente drill. Personally I'd call the shooter on not using the cover properly. There are specifics in the rulebook as to how much of your body needs to be covered by the "cover". Although the range design and stage design doesn't look like it would allow propper cover usage anyway..... |
Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 7:06pm
Have four sealed battlepacks of M1A2... stashing them, as internet-folklore says these have magical abilities and zombies dislike them more than other 5.56.
Vast majority of ammunition sold here in the states is Boxer primed. Only Berdan stuff will be imported... usually combloc calibers... or surplus. I pick up my brass when I'm able. And always have, even before I considered reloading. I even pick up steel cased Wolf 223 and 45ACP now... which, much to my surprise, is boxer primed... and can be reloaded. I hate to think of how many of those steel cases I tossed assuming they were non-reloadable. |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 13 February 2008 at 7:09pm
| i would always be leery on reloading brass for the sole reason that i always second guess myself and i would always be wondering, did i put in just enough, too much, or too little? one of the reasons i'm not a fan of black powder rifles |