Angry White Man.
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Topic: Angry White Man.
Posted By: WGP guy2
Subject: Angry White Man.
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 6:45pm
While I can't relate to all of it, I'm sure I will, unfortunately, be able to eventually.
http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324 - http://www.aspentimes.com/article/2008198091324
 Aspen Times wrote:
There is a great amount of interest in this year’s
presidential elections, as everybody seems to recognize that our next
president has to be a lot better than George Bush. The Democrats are
riding high with two groundbreaking candidates — a woman and an
African-American — while the conservative Republicans are in a quandary
about their party’s nod to a quasi-liberal maverick, John McCain.
Each candidate is carefully pandering to a smorgasbord of
special-interest groups, ranging from gay, lesbian and transgender
people to children of illegal immigrants to working mothers to
evangelical Christians.
There is one group no one has
recognized, and it is the group that will decide the election: the
Angry White Man. The Angry White Man comes from all economic
backgrounds, from dirt-poor to filthy rich. He represents all
geographic areas in America, from urban sophisticate to rural redneck,
deep South to mountain West, left Coast to Eastern Seaboard.
His common traits are that he isn’t looking for anything from anyone —
just the promise to be able to make his own way on a level playing
field. In many cases, he is an independent businessman and employs
several people. He pays more than his share of taxes and works hard.
The victimhood syndrome buzzwords — “disenfranchised,” “marginalized”
and “voiceless” — don’t resonate with him. “Press ‘one’ for English” is
a curse-word to him. He’s used to picking up the tab, whether it’s the
company Christmas party, three sets of braces, three college educations
or a beautiful wedding.
He believes the Constitution is to be
interpreted literally, not as a “living document” open to the whims and
vagaries of a panel of judges who have never worked an honest day in
their lives.
The Angry White Man owns firearms, and he’s
willing to pick up a gun to defend his home and his country. He is
willing to lay down his life to defend the freedom and safety of
others, and the thought of killing someone who needs killing really
doesn’t bother him.
The Angry White Man is not a metrosexual, a
homosexual or a victim. Nobody like him drowned in Hurricane Katrina —
he got his people together and got the hell out, then went back in to
rescue those too helpless and stupid to help themselves, often as a
police officer, a National Guard soldier or a volunteer firefighter.
His last name and religion don’t matter. His background might be
Italian, English, Polish, German, Slavic, Irish, or Russian, and he
might have Cherokee, Mexican, or Puerto Rican mixed in, but he
considers himself a white American.
He’s a man’s man, the
kind of guy who likes to play poker, watch football, hunt white-tailed
deer, call turkeys, play golf, spend a few bucks at a strip club once
in a blue moon, change his own oil and build things. He coaches
baseball, soccer and football teams and doesn’t ask for a penny. He’s
the kind of guy who can put an addition on his house with a couple of
friends, drill an oil well, weld a new bumper for his truck, design a
factory and publish books. He can fill a train with 100,000 tons of
coal and get it to the power plant on time so that you keep the lights
on and never know what it took to flip that light switch.
Women
either love him or hate him, but they know he’s a man, not a dishrag.
If they’re looking for someone to walk all over, they’ve got the wrong
guy. He stands up straight, opens doors for women and says “Yes, sir”
and “No, ma’am.”
He might be a Republican and he might be a
Democrat; he might be a Libertarian or a Green. He knows that his wife
is more emotional than rational, and he guides the family in a rational
manner.
He’s not a racist, but he is annoyed and disappointed
when people of certain backgrounds exhibit behavior that typifies the
worst stereotypes of their race. He’s willing to give everybody a fair
chance if they work hard, play by the rules and learn English.
Most important, the Angry White Man is pissed off. When his job site
becomes flooded with illegal workers who don’t pay taxes and his wages
drop like a stone, he gets righteously angry. When his job gets shipped
overseas, and he has to speak to some incomprehensible idiot in India
for tech support, he simmers. When Al Sharpton comes on TV, leading
some rally for reparations for slavery or some such nonsense, he bites
his tongue and he remembers. When a child gets charged with carrying a
concealed weapon for mistakenly bringing a penknife to school, he takes
note of who the local idiots are in education and law enforcement.
He also votes, and the Angry White Man loathes Hillary Clinton. Her
voice reminds him of a shovel scraping a rock. He recoils at the mere
sight of her on television. Her very image disgusts him, and he cannot
fathom why anyone would want her as their leader. It’s not that she is
a woman. It’s that she is who she is. It’s the liberal victim groups
she panders to, the “poor me” attitude that she represents, her
inability to give a straight answer to an honest question, his tax
dollars that she wants to give to people who refuse to do anything for
themselves.
There are many millions of Angry White Men. Four
million Angry White Men are members of the National Rifle Association,
and all of them will vote against Hillary Clinton, just as the great
majority of them voted for George Bush.
He hopes that she will be the Democratic nominee for president in 2008, and he will make sure that she gets beaten like a drum. |
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Replies:
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 6:51pm
tl;dr
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 6:51pm
bravecoward wrote:
tl;dr
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Read the fourth and third to last paragraph.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 6:57pm
tl;dr has to be the most annoying response I see on the forums. If you don't have the attention span to read a post that's fine. However; speaking for myself, and probably others, I really don't care to be informed about the aforementioned lack of attention/motivation.
WGP: Interesting find. Thx.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:01pm
It's a shame that being "normal" is so rare nowadays, and requires addressing.
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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:12pm
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I guess I'd be concidered an angry white man, but not all of it applies to me.
The term "Angry White Man" makes me feel like some evil person, yet that whole paragraph doesn't.
I dont like George Bush though.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:26pm
Mack wrote:
tl;dr has to be the most annoying response I see on the forums. If you don't have the attention span to read a post that's fine. However; speaking for myself, and probably others, I really don't care to be informed about the aforementioned lack of attention/motivation.
WGP: Interesting find. Thx.
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tl;dr
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:28pm
^^^ That was predictable. You can do better that that, HV.
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Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:35pm
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DeTrevni wrote:
It's a shame that being "normal" is so rare nowadays, and requires addressing. |
How is being this guy supposed to be considered "normal." As if everything is abnormal or bad. It's just going to be another FWD:FWD, someone else complaining about complainers.
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:38pm
bravecoward wrote:
tl;dr
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I read about the first sentence or two, and I'm guessing this is more Bush/Republican bashing, which I don't care to read about.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:40pm
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¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote:
bravecoward wrote:
tl;dr |
I read about the first sentence or two, and I'm guessing this is more Bush/Republican bashing, which I don't care to read about.
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Actually it's quite the opposite.
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:51pm
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:52pm
The guy in the article is considering himself an average person in the country.
If the average person's beliefs are split, no amount of pandering is going to modify the vote.
The problem arises when he equates the average white male with Clinton-hating, a little conservative, "they'r gonna grab ahr gunz" type of men.
Of course, angry white NRA members carries a somewhat negative connotation to the masses; though I'd be angry too if the government really was trying to take our guns.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 7:59pm
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I'm just shocked that he actually thinks he's "normal." As if there is such a thing.
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 8:04pm
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Basically, Nixon's old "silent majority."
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 8:19pm
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Even the dominant groups want to be "victims."
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 8:40pm
Dune wrote:
Even the dominant groups want to be "victims." |
Basically.
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 9:05pm
High Voltage wrote:
Mack wrote:
tl;dr has to be the most annoying response I see on the forums. If you don't have the attention span to read a post that's fine. However; speaking for myself, and probably others, I really don't care to be informed about the aforementioned lack of attention/motivation.
WGP: Interesting find. Thx.
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tl;dr
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lol
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 9:28pm
While I am not an Angry White Man. I do consider myself an Angry American Man. Every american should be Upset and Angry. After all we are under attack from within.
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 10:02pm
Evil Elvis wrote:
While I am not an Angry White Man. I do consider myself an Angry American Man. Every american should be Upset and Angry. After all we are under attack from within. |
Just so you know, the Angry White Man that is being talked about does not like you. He takes a look at you from a distance and thinks you are taking his job.
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 10:08pm
Man Bites Dog wrote:
Evil Elvis wrote:
While I am not an Angry White Man. I do consider myself an Angry American Man. Every american should be Upset and Angry. After all we are under attack from within. |
Just so you know, the Angry White Man that is being talked about does not like you. He takes a look at you from a distance and thinks you are taking his job. |
I hang out with a lot of Angry White Men. As long as I dont look at his Naggy White Women they are quite content.
Angry White Men dont mind Angry Latino Men who pay taxes, work hard and try incorporate themselves into American life. It's the ones who push the 'Press 2 for Espanol" that anoy them and me.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 10:11pm
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I think it would be scary to view myself as a template for how I wish other people would act, speak, and live their lives. Therefore, it's hard for me to really get angry at many people.
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Posted By: CarbineKid
Date Posted: 14 February 2008 at 10:50pm
This isn't new. In fact the same thing was said in Clintons first year 1993. The movie Falling Down, was suppose to be all about the "angry white male".
Oh and it was a great movie. http://www.movie-list.com/f/falling-down.html - Trailer
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Posted By: stratoaxe
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 1:37am
Dune wrote:
I think it would be scary to view myself as a template for how I wish other people would act, speak, and live their lives. Therefore, it's hard for me to really get angry at many people. |
I agree 100%.
What angers me in politics is that so many politicians know what's best for me. I get tired of hearing people argue over what I need, and never stop to ask me.
You can make the decision to end the life process of a baby, but goddammit you better not light up a joint...or we'll waste millions in tax dollars hunting your ass down. Gotta love America...
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 3:07am
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stratoaxe wrote:
Dune wrote:
I think it would be scary to view myself as a template for how I wish other people would act, speak, and live their lives. Therefore, it's hard for me to really get angry at many people. |
I agree 100%.
What angers me in politics is that so many politicians know what's best for me. I get tired of hearing people argue over what I need, and never stop to ask me.
You can make the decision to end the life process of a baby, but goddammit you better not light up a joint...or we'll waste millions in tax dollars hunting your ass down. Gotta love America...
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While I understand your point. My original point was that I would never expect someone to live their life the way I do. I am not the model person, so to be the "angry white male" is a ridiculous assumption of how people "should" be. I have no right to judge, I have no right to claim what is or what isn't normal, and to make a FWD:FWD trying to make an overgeneralization about the real majority in the United States is clearly a misrepresentation. For anyone, on both sides of the line, to actually think they are a mold for the rest of the population to follow; well, even Corky from "Life Goes On" would consider them retarded.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 8:25am
While it isn't 'spot on' I think the initial article has some merit to it.
There's a lot of stuff in there that I can relate to. I'm not saying I want everyone to be like me, nor am I seeing myself as a victim of any kind. I just think that there are certain values and aspects of every day American life that don't even get an afterthought when the big picture is looked at.
And it makes me an angry white man sometimes.
There, I admitted it. Now tell me how closed minded, disoriented and ignorant I am.
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 10:49am
Dune wrote:
stratoaxe wrote:
Dune wrote:
I think it would be scary to view myself as a template for how I wish other people would act, speak, and live their lives. Therefore, it's hard for me to really get angry at many people. |
I agree 100%.
What angers me in politics is that so many politicians know what's best for me. I get tired of hearing people argue over what I need, and never stop to ask me.
You can make the decision to end the life process of a baby, but goddammit you better not light up a joint...or we'll waste millions in tax dollars hunting your ass down. Gotta love America...
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While I understand your point. My original point was that I would never expect someone to live their life the way I do. I am not the model person, so to be the "angry white male" is a ridiculous assumption of how people "should" be. I have no right to judge, I have no right to claim what is or what isn't normal, and to make a FWD:FWD trying to make an overgeneralization about the real majority in the United States is clearly a misrepresentation. For anyone, on both sides of the line, to actually think they are a mold for the rest of the population to follow; well, even Corky from "Life Goes On" would consider them retarded. |
B-B-But... you're a police officer! You can't be flawed!
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 15 February 2008 at 11:34am
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I read it, and the Angry White man almost describes me perfectly,
except for the redneck stereotype concerning trucks and deer hunting.