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Topic: why do you think paintball is so awesome?
Posted By: p_p_b_h
Subject: why do you think paintball is so awesome?
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 8:21am

a friend asked me why i think paintball is so awesome. i think paintball is awesome because pretty much any age can play, my dad, 45, plays with me all the time, and hes a superb shot. my friends granpa, at age 72 tried paintball, hes still playing(just rec. and he generally sits back a bit but thats expected) at age 73. 10 year olds can play.my mom is gonna play this march break. 

-theres also so many different styles, woods, scenario, speedball, hybrid, all types of game types and scenarios, it can suit anyone.  you can be front, back, mid, guy who runs around the tape, be aggresive, defensive, kamikaze, everything.  

-its a game where, yes you can spend a lot of money on paint and on a marker, and a marker that suites you does help, and that part is awesome, but anyone can shoot anyone. ive been bunkered by guys who have played for the first time, ive been shot by little kids, my own team, and ive also shot people with $1000+ guns, ive 1 shoted, and used pump agaisnt electros with some effect(only played with it 2wice in woods, 2wice in a speedball field, always held my ground, moved up, but with reduced eliminations, but im getting better).

-the adrenaline. sure,  you can go skydive, or do something else awesome, but the adrenaline form paintball is soo awesome. you get bursts of it, your actually shooting or being shot at. the running, shooting, the suspence! ive been surrounded in thick, thick bush and i knew there was about 5, and i was legitimatly felt scared, i didnt know who was poping outa where.

-lazer tag just doesnt cut it. its probably the closest thing to it, other than airsoft, and both are below par oof paintball. no pain in lazer tag means you get a million noobs coverign up there pads, friends shooting you in the back, unfair teams, stalkers, campers, people who go up to u and hold hte gun on you, ive even went on a fieldtrip and a teacher held his gun on me(lifted mine, emptied a shot in his shoulder, he got mad, jerked up n cut my finger open) you dont know where your being shot from, and seriously, its boring. 

-the enviroment. its soo friendly, everyone generally lends you orings, or will help with gun trouble, or give backup to a stranded front player, share some paint. the talk afterwords of"i cant believe i made that shot, what a sick taperun, hahah u look like you have a milkshake on your face!" is sooo awesome. you can get the occasional suicide jockey who overshoots or cheats, but his reward is a ref waving to pull him, or everyone bonusballing them. after big games ive had friends over and we talk well into the night, and talk days after.

can you guys explain why this sport is so great? what do you guys like about the game.(i thought we needed a praise paintball post because of this paintball nationwide rut.) 




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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 8:27am
i havent played in a few years and i was recently in a small hobby shop...i heard the sounds of a tippy dry firing in the back and i immediately missed being at the field...this summer im coming out of retirement

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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 8:48am
Paintball is not a sport.

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Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 9:08am
Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Paintball is not a sport.


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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 9:30am
I play paintball... I'm awesome.... therefore.... paintball is awesome by association.


Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 9:36am
It really helped Me in my uber elite Sniper class.

One shot, one kill!


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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 9:44am
stop mocking my youthful enthusiasm... its all i have.... and paintball is a sport, but most commonly its a hobby. it may not be a maintstream sport, but it is, just like people who consider fishing a sport.   


Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 10:13am
because I can release pent up frustration and aggression.


Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 10:15am
I do not think paintball is so awesome.

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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 10:25am
Because it takes all my money, but I don't mind.

Most of my best friends I've met through paintball.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 10:31am
Originally posted by Snake6. Snake6. wrote:

Originally posted by High Voltage High Voltage wrote:

Paintball is not a sport.


True dat.

Paintball is really cool but too expensive especially in Canada. I've been meaning to go for a while though, I bought like $500 worth of gear last year that I've been meaning to use...



Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 11:11am

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

I play paintball... I'm awesome.... therefore.... paintball is awesome by association.

The man speaks truth.



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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 11:11am
Not to beat a dead horse, but paintball can be considered a sport. If not, what do you consider it?

I think paintball is 'awesome' because it allows for a lot of things that my other hobbies might not. Time spent outdoors, with friends, and I get to shoot at things and people without going to jail.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 11:26am
A game.


Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 12:05pm

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

A game.

Basketball, is a sport (it sucks, but I can't deny its status in the athletic world)

But, when a few friends of mine and I take the ball to the local gym to play, we're having a game. Isn't a 'game' nothing more than what makes up a 'sport?'

A game of baseball
A game of golf
A game of hockey
A game of football

Each of these undeniable sports are comprised of competative matchups, called 'games' (or matches or whatever term you care to substitute)

So, can I not play a game of paintball, yet be part of a sport?
Look not at the action of PLAYING paintball, because, yes, that is a game. Look at the big picture, at the context of the activity itself. How it can't be considered a sport is beyond me once you realize that WHAT you are playing is different than 'playing' itself.

 

 



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 12:13pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

A game.


Basketball, is a sport (it sucks, but I can't deny its status in the athletic world)


But, when a few friends of mine and I take the ball to the local gym to play, we're having a game. Isn't a 'game' nothing more than what makes up a 'sport?'


A game of baseballA game of golfA game of hockeyA game of football


Each of these undeniable sports are comprised of competative matchups, called 'games' (or matches or whatever term you care to substitute)


So, can I not play a game of paintball, yet be part of a sport?Look not at the action of PLAYING paintball, because, yes, that is a game. Look at the big picture, at the context of the activity itself. How it can't be considered a sport is beyond me once you realize that WHAT you are playing is different than 'playing' itself.


 


 



Monopoly is a game too. Is it a sport? Does it make up any part of a sport?


Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 12:40pm
Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.


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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 12:44pm
I'll "tl;dr" my previous posts about this.

People try to give their activities the title of "sport" to make it sound more important (because sports are for grown-ups and games are for kids). If these people had their way, every competition can be considered sport and we will loose a word that has long emphasized games with an intense physical requirement.

However, seeing as definitions are dictated by majority usage and understanding, only a group of games with a similar set of rules and goals can really be considered sports.

I doesn't make paintball any less of a game, but it is definitely not a sport.


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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 12:46pm
Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:


However, seeing as definitions are dictated by majority usage and understanding, only a group of games with a similar set of rules and goals can really be considered sports.


Wouldn't that make paintball a sport?  Xball is definitely a sport.


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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 1:04pm
Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:


However, seeing as definitions are dictated by majority usage and understanding, only a group of games with a similar set of rules and goals can really be considered sports.


Wouldn't that make paintball a sport?  Xball is definitely a sport.


By a group of games I meant the games that are universally recognized as sport.

Soccer, Volleyball, Tennis, Rugby, Water Polo, and Basketball are all undisputed in their claims of being sports.

Paintball can theoretically be won with no physical hardship whatsoever against even the most determined of opponents in ANY of its forms if you have enough skill in other aspects of the game. The same cannot be said for the undisputed sports.

There are many other aspects of paintball which deviate from the standard idea of a sport, but the main one is above. I think that definition should be necessary in calling anything a sport.


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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 1:23pm
beaing to shoot someone and not going to jail =  awsome.

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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 1:51pm

"Universally accepted" is a sorry prerequisite for the title of 'sport'

Certain parts of the world see people bouncing down a hill in a large clear ball (Zorbing) and in that particular area of the planet, it is a legitimate sport.

Skateboarding too, where it is taken seriously enough, is considered a sport. There are competitions, awards, recognitions, sponsors, etc.

Monopoly, Is not a sport. Nor are things like checkers, chess, stratego, whatever. Why? Because they lack the necessity of physical activity. Paintball on the other hand does require that you get off your ass and move around a little (unless you subscribe to the Spec Ops sniper beliefs)

No matter how you slice it, no matter how you chop up and dissect paintball, it DOES have a pretty basic set of rules. "Shoot the other team, don't get shot" and the team, or side that does this best.....wins.

Soccer: "Score goals, keep the other team from scoring goals on you" Whoever does this the best.....wins.

 
Baseball: "Score runs, keep the other team from scoring them on you" Whoever does this the best....wins.

Basketball, football, hockey, etc, etc, etc have the same basic premise as paintball does, yet you still maintain that it is not a sport. I not only disagree with you, but I can't really understand where you derive your opinion from at all.

 

 



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 1:58pm
Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.


Stop accusing me of being a troll skillet, that was a serious reply.

One of the biggest reasons why paintball is not a sport is that often, the game is decided by player gear rather than player skill.

Every sport that I can think of off the top of my head regulates the equipment used by each team so that they are on equal ground and skill decides the victor.

This is not done in paintball, even in the advanced levels but especially in the lower levels where gear control is often not present at all. Yes, there have some moves towards this but they are still far from the amount that is required to make both sides be on equal ground.



Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 2:06pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by procarbinefreak procarbinefreak wrote:

I play paintball... I'm awesome.... therefore.... paintball is awesome by association.

The man speaks truth.



It's a well known fact in Canada.


I might go as far as to say... that i'm world renowned in Canada...


Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 2:08pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.




One of the biggest reasons why paintball is not a sport is that often, the game is decided by player gear rather than player skill.

Every sport that I can think of off the top of my head regulates the equipment used by each team so that they are on equal ground and skill decides the victor.
 


1.) Prove  it.

2.) The only reason there are regulations on equipment is because big company's such as; Nike, Warrior (for LaCrosse), Rebok, ect pay them large sums of money to make sure they have the only products on that field.


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.


Stop accusing me of being a troll skillet, that was a serious reply.

One of the biggest reasons why paintball is not a sport is that often, the game is decided by player gear rather than player skill.

Every sport that I can think of off the top of my head regulates the equipment used by each team so that they are on equal ground and skill decides the victor.

This is not done in paintball, even in the advanced levels but especially in the lower levels where gear control is often not present at all. Yes, there have some moves towards this but they are still far from the amount that is required to make both sides be on equal ground.



It seems like you're reaching now. That's a pretty flimsy claim. True to a degree, but hardly enough to disqualify paintball from being a sport.

Your claim to paintball being 'not a sport' because of the un level playing fields, I call nothing more than baloney. What about pump tournaments? It would seem to me that 'unregulated' means that I could walk onto a pump field with my A-5 and not be in violation of any of the rules.

Skill doesn't decide the outcomes of paintball games? You're absolutely nuts, and putting far, far too much faith in something that is predominantly a hunk of metal and plastic.

Players play with the markers of their choosing. If their choice doesn't match up with that of their opponents, then they need to make adjustments in their play styles, or develop skills to make the fields even.

And equipment IS regulated in high end games, hence the caps on BPS...to level the playing field.

Put it this way instead: Lets say a handful of my friends and I wander out to a field with one of these big name speedball teams. Have them take our tippmanns, while we take their magnificent markers which you say are responsible for the outcomes of the game.

By your rather inane logic, the equipment makes the team, so my group of players who may or may not have ever played speedball before will walk off the field victorious.

Believe that, and I've got a bridge to sell you.....cheap.



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by ANARCHY_SCOUT ANARCHY_SCOUT wrote:


Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.



One of the biggest reasons why paintball is not a sport is that often, the game is decided by player gear rather than player skill.

Every sport that I can think of off the top of my head regulates the equipment used by each team so that they are on equal ground and skill decides the victor.
 
1.) Prove  it.2.) The only reason there are regulations on equipment is because big company's such as; Nike, Warrior (for LaCrosse), Rebok, ect pay them large sums of money to make sure they have the only products on that field.


1)Why would I need to prove it? Isin't it obvious?

2) No, having the same quality gear regulates the balance.

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:


Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.


Stop accusing me of being a troll skillet, that was a serious reply.

One of the biggest reasons why paintball is not a sport is that often, the game is decided by player gear rather than player skill.

Every sport that I can think of off the top of my head regulates the equipment used by each team so that they are on equal ground and skill decides the victor.

This is not done in paintball, even in the advanced levels but especially in the lower levels where gear control is often not present at all. Yes, there have some moves towards this but they are still far from the amount that is required to make both sides be on equal ground.

It seems like you're reaching now. That's a pretty flimsy claim. True to a degree, but hardly enough to disqualify paintball from being a sport.

It's not flimsy. Can you name any sports that don't regulate the gear of each team?

Your claim to paintball being 'not a sport' because of the un level playing fields, I call nothing more than baloney. What about pump tournaments? It would seem to me that 'unregulated' means that I could walk onto a pump field with my A-5 and not be in violation of any of the rules.

No, my point was that it wasen't regulated enough.

Skill doesn't decide the outcomes of paintball games? You're absolutely nuts, and putting far, far too much faith in something that is predominantly a hunk of metal and plastic.

I didn't say skill doesn't decide the outcome of paintball games. My point was that though skill is still important, a paintball game potentially could and often is affected by the gear of each team.

Players play with the markers of their choosing. If their choice doesn't match up with that of their opponents, then they need to make adjustments in their play styles, or develop skills to make the fields even. And equipment IS regulated in high end games, hence the caps on BPS...to level the playing field.

I made indirect note to the caps on bps. Capping the bps is a step forward but nowhere close to the control that is needed to level the field.

Put it this way instead: Lets say a handful of my friends and I wander out to a field with one of these big name speedball teams. Have them take our tippmanns, while we take their magnificent markers which you say are responsible for the outcomes of the game. By your rather inane logic, the equipment makes the team, so my group of players who may or may not have ever played speedball before will walk off the field victorious. Believe that, and I've got a bridge to sell you.....cheap.

I didn't say markers were the sole decider of the outcome of games. If you need to resort to twisting words around to win an argument, don't bother arguing.



I didn't say that paintball couldn't be a sport, I just said that it isin't one now.


Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 2:39pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

"Universally accepted" is a sorry prerequisite for the title of 'sport'.

Then I could call my computer a type of fruit and I would be right. Definitions of words are given to us by their use in society. The words by which most people will refer to an object as is what is correct. In the case of new words, the creator's definitions are the correct ones.

The activities that are undisputed as sports all share a certain set of traits that set them apart from other games.

The requirement of physical activity to defeat a physically active opponent is the main one I was trying to explain to you.

In pretty much every format of paintball (I neglected to think about non-elimination based games on large fields), you can win without running; even if the opponents are extremely physically active.

Anything accepted around the world as a sport will have specific traits to it. Essentially, all sports are the same game: Two evenly sized teams on a flat field (symmetrical on two axes) competing to get a single object of focus into the opposing team's scoring zone with nothing but the power of the human body propelling that focus. Sticks and bats are propelled by humans and thus do not violate the last requisite.

 I've noticed that when people argue about the "sportiness" of some games, they always debate about the games which deviate from that definition.

It is extremely rare that someone will argue that basketball or soccer are not sports.

However, walk into a room of people who represent the population distribution of the earth (even this country), and an insignificant amount of them would accept NASCAR as a sport.

Certain parts of the world see people bouncing down a hill in a large clear ball (Zorbing) and in that particular area of the planet, it is a legitimate sport.

Skateboarding too, where it is taken seriously enough, is considered a sport. There are competitions, awards, recognitions, sponsors, etc.

Both are considered sports by an insignificant part of the world's populations. Thus, they cannot be considered sports.

Aside from majority definition, they do not require as much physical activity as you'd think. Skateboarding is more about user finesse and coordination than about exertion. Zorb is just rolling down a hill in a ball.

Monopoly, Is not a sport. Nor are things like checkers, chess, stratego, whatever. Why? Because they lack the necessity of physical activity.

Correct.

Paintball on the other hand does require that you get off your ass and move around a little

No it doesn't (Except in games where fields are large and opponent elimination is not the goal).

(unless you subscribe to the Spec Ops sniper beliefs)

Hell, even by their pre-teen indoctrinating definition, being a "sniper" is not enough to win games.

No matter how you slice it, no matter how you chop up and dissect paintball, it DOES have a pretty basic set of rules. "Shoot the other team, don't get shot" and the team, or side that does this best.....wins.

Soccer: "Score goals, keep the other team from scoring goals on you" Whoever does this the best.....wins.
 
Baseball: "Score runs, keep the other team from scoring them on you"
Whoever does this the best....wins.

Read above paragraph about the goal in sports.

Basketball, football, hockey, etc, etc, etc have the same basic premise as paintball does,

Not at all.

Basketball, football, hockey: Move a single point of focus to the opponent's scoring zone.

Paintball: Eliminate opponents.
Unless you want to add CTF, which is pretty much impossible to win in tournament formats without eliminating every other opponent before scoring with the flag... which means you can win by walking.

yet you still maintain that it is not a sport. I not only disagree with you, but I can't really understand where you derive your opinion from at all.

It's essentially this:

Sports are games in which prolonged physical exertion is REQUIRED to defeat an opponent that is consistently physically active.

Paintball DOES NOT REQUIRE physical exertion to defeat a physically active enemy.

Paintball therefore not a sport by common usage/implication (the property that defines a word) of the word.



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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 2:49pm

can we just agree that profesional paintball CAN be considered a sport, and that games organized through walk on style play are just recreational games? and that both forms are awesome? btw how can someone be on a paintball forum, and not like paintball? 
man you guys argue to much....   this arguing, along with all others who demean the name of paintball are the reason paintball is in such a rut.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 2:58pm
Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

can we just agree that profesional paintball CAN be considered a sport, and that games organized through walk on style play are just recreational games? and that both forms are awesome? btw how can someone be on a paintball forum, and not like paintball? man you guys argue to much....   this arguing, along with all others who demean the name of paintball are the reason paintball is in such a rut.



It's just friendly arguing that means absolutely nothing. Exactly like every other argument on this forum. If you don't like it, don't participate.



Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:00pm
I don't know. I still think you're tailoring the definition of 'sport' to fit your opinion.

Much like the kids tailor 'sniper' to fit their own agenda.

Simplistic definition of a "sport" is "an athletic activity requiring skill or physical prowess and often of a competitive nature"

Nowhere does it say 'prolonged' physical exertion. Lets break down the definition though based on the key words:

1. Athletic: Is this necessary in paintball? It sure helps. The more athletic you are, the better a chance you have of being successful. Disagree? Fain 200 lbs and lets play some speedball.

2. Activity: No question.

3. Skill: As I argued against Carl, skills are a determining point in any game, sport, or hobby you might have. The more skills you've got, be your focus paintball or tiddly winks, the better off you'll be.

4. 'Or physical Prowess' This one you probably have me on. But the qualifier "Or" keeps me in the race.

5. Competitive- to argue that paintball is anything other than competitive would render you certifiable.

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Nowhere in that commonly accepted definition does the phrase 'prolonged physical exertion' come into play.

Look at the kicker for a football team. His contributions to the sport are undeniable, yet there isn't anything prolonged about his job at all.

As far as your deeming that other activities aren't sports because they aren't 'universally accepted' as such, What about American Football?

I maintain that despite the twisting of the details, the basic, general principal of paintball is well in line with that of the other major commonly accepted sports. "Follow the rules laid out to accomplish a goal and win the game" Be it sweep the ice in front of a weight so it slides nicely, put a ball into a hoop 10 feet off the ground, or eliminate your opponent by shooting them upside the head with a paintball.

The details between the scenarios of paintball might change, but the underlying principal is the same, no matter how you play it.

My claim to 'sport' stands.



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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:02pm
Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

can we just agree that profesional paintball CAN be considered a sport, and that games organized through walk on style play are just recreational games? and that both forms are awesome? btw how can someone be on a paintball forum, and not like paintball? 
man you guys argue to much....   this arguing, along with all others who demean the name of paintball are the reason paintball is in such a rut.



But this just opens the door for another debate. Can paintball be considered a PROFESSIONAL sport?

Relax. If if wasn't for the debates around here, we'd never get anything accomplished.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:07pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:


Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

can we just agree that profesional paintball CAN be considered a sport, and that games organized through walk on style play are just recreational games? and that both forms are awesome? btw how can someone be on a paintball forum, and not like paintball? man you guys argue to much....   this arguing, along with all others who demean the name of paintball are the reason paintball is in such a rut.

But this just opens the door for another debate. Can paintball be considered a PROFESSIONAL sport? Relax. If if wasn't for the debates around here, we'd never get anything accomplished.
Most forumers here would agree that it isin't a prosfessional sport i'm sure.

Reb: Nothing for me? And we hardly argued about how skill is a requirement in paintball.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:15pm
Tolgak: Arguing that you can win paintball without exerting athleticism and physical prowess is silly. You can do the same thing in soccer, hockey, rugby, etc. Can you not walk a ball into a goal? Can you not walk to the endzone? Etc. Sports are a means to show off physical prowess and athleticism. Same with paintball. On a level playing field with similarly skilled players (regulated X-ball of the same division) it's almost guaranteed the more physical, athletic and coordinated team will win.

Carl: What do you mean, not level? In recball, the field is definitely not level, but in tourney-ball, the fields are VERY level. All the markers are limited to the same velocity, BPS and all have the same general accuracy. Players are divided into skill levels and age groups. What else CAN be leveled in tourney-ball?


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:23pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:


Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

can we just agree that profesional paintball CAN be considered a sport, and that games organized through walk on style play are just recreational games? and that both forms are awesome? btw how can someone be on a paintball forum, and not like paintball? man you guys argue to much....   this arguing, along with all others who demean the name of paintball are the reason paintball is in such a rut.

But this just opens the door for another debate. Can paintball be considered a PROFESSIONAL sport? Relax. If if wasn't for the debates around here, we'd never get anything accomplished.
Most forumers here would agree that it isin't a prosfessional sport i'm sure.

Reb: Nothing for me? And we hardly argued about how skill is a requirement in paintball.


Oh don't worry, I'll be back. I'm at work, so I had to limit my responses.


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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:34pm
If you rid of prolonged physical exertion, there is no setting apart sports from other games.

Shooting in pool is an act of quick physical exertion, but it sounds like you wouldn't consider it a sport on the grounds of it not being physical enough. The same goes for horseshoe throwing or bow shooting.

The dictionary definition of the word sport pretty much means every game, yet the societal definition tells us otherwise. The problem is that dictionaries have to account for even the smallest minority in their definitions. Basically, if there's a group of a million people that are known to use a word incorrectly, their definition ends up being a correct definition of the word because a significant amount of people use the word in that context.

The issue here is that pretty much everybody wants to call their favorite activity a sport to make it seem more important and more productive.

This is why I look to the undisputed sports for my definition. The games that are universally accepted as sports all have a key set of features that set them apart from other games.

Think of it with aircraft. A Helicopter is a vehicle that takes off vertically and cruises under rotary wing power.

An F-35 can also take off vertically and cruise with vertical thrust, but it doesn't have a technical rotary wing. Therefore, an F-35 is not a helicopter.

Likewise, paintball is missing the physical requirement of sports and therefore cannot be classified under that name.


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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:40pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Tolgak: Arguing that you can win paintball without exerting athleticism and physical prowess is silly. You can do the same thing in soccer, hockey, rugby, etc. Can you not walk a ball into a goal? Can you not walk to the endzone? Etc. Sports are a means to show off physical prowess and athleticism. Same with paintball. On a level playing field with similarly skilled players (regulated X-ball of the same division) it's almost guaranteed the more physical, athletic and coordinated team will win.


You missed the other qualifier, that the opposing team is physically exerting itself.

Without determined opponents, you can easily walk a ball into a goal. However, with opponents that are running and blocking and passing and whatnot, walking a ball from the center of the field into the goal is impossible.

In paintball, however, all the work is done for you by compressed gas. You could sit on your ass and beat an entire x-ball team single-handedly if you can aim quickly and accurately enough (few people can, but it's possible and has been done by back players in many formats of speedball). After eliminating everybody, you can simply walk up to the flag and walk it to the station.


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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:48pm
But this goes back to my argument. Athleticism is a necessity in paintball, because due to its competitive nature, the other team will be athletic. If you do not meet their athleticism with your own, you will most likely lose. Let's take soccer for example. When we watch soccer, both teams are running, setting up formations and plays and exerting themselves. Why? Not because of the definition of "sport" requires them to do so, but because if one team doesn't, the other team will and achieve victory. Now take tourney paintball. One team stays back and simply shoots, allowing the other team to use their athleticism and skill to take key positions on the field, easily eliminating the "lazy" team. If there was no physical prowess or athleticism involved in paintball, there would be no match, just people plinking at each other. You can do the same thing in soccer. Give the ball a good kick, and if no one is exerting athleticism, the ball will roll into the goal.

As I mentioned, sports are nothing more then competitive ways to show off athleticism. It takes prowess and athleticism to play tourney paintball, just as it takes prowess and athleticicsm to play a match of soccer.

Edit: You got to my point while I was typing this. Give me a second...

Edit 2: I'll let this argument stand, as it addresses your "opposing teams" point. However, I will add this: A backman taking out an entire opposing team is an anomaly. That's similar to saying a goalie can kick a soccer ball from his goal to the other and score a goal (which I have actually done when I played youth soccer). Such events are indeed possible, but are so uncommon, they do not fit into the definition. And simply kicking, by your own definition (i.e. archer, pool, etc.) does not qualify that as part of the sport.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 3:57pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Tolgak: Arguing that you can win paintball without exerting athleticism and physical prowess is silly. You can do the same thing in soccer, hockey, rugby, etc. Can you not walk a ball into a goal? Can you not walk to the endzone? Etc. Sports are a means to show off physical prowess and athleticism. Same with paintball. On a level playing field with similarly skilled players (regulated X-ball of the same division) it's almost guaranteed the more physical, athletic and coordinated team will win.Carl: What do you mean, not level? In recball, the field is definitely not level, but in tourney-ball, the fields are VERY level. All the markers are limited to the same velocity, BPS and all have the same general accuracy. Players are divided into skill levels and age groups. What else CAN be leveled in tourney-ball?


Everyone has different gear, everyone has different markers. Every upgrade makes it a different marker than before. Many upgrades aren't regulated at all.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:00pm
Okay, Tolga, my point has been addressed.

Carl: Whoopty-doo? If I have $1k worth of upgrades into an Ego 8 or what-have-you, it will still shoot 280 FPS at 13.33 BPS. What does it matter if the the Ego 8 I'm shooting (hypothetically) is any different than a DM8 the other guy is shooting? It is still limited to the constraints of the rules. Going back to the soccer thing, that's saying the other guy has different cleats. They are equipment, limited to what the rules and regulations say, that help you achieve victory.

Mind you, I'm talking official tourneys, not rec-ball.


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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:04pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by ANARCHY_SCOUT ANARCHY_SCOUT wrote:


Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.



One of the biggest reasons why paintball is not a sport is that often, the game is decided by player gear rather than player skill.

Every sport that I can think of off the top of my head regulates the equipment used by each team so that they are on equal ground and skill decides the victor.
 
1.) Prove  it.2.) The only reason there are regulations on equipment is because big company's such as; Nike, Warrior (for LaCrosse), Rebok, ect pay them large sums of money to make sure they have the only products on that field.


1)Why would I need to prove it? Isin't it obvious?

2) No, having the same quality gear regulates the balance.

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:


Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.


Stop accusing me of being a troll skillet, that was a serious reply.

One of the biggest reasons why paintball is not a sport is that often, the game is decided by player gear rather than player skill.

Every sport that I can think of off the top of my head regulates the equipment used by each team so that they are on equal ground and skill decides the victor.

This is not done in paintball, even in the advanced levels but especially in the lower levels where gear control is often not present at all. Yes, there have some moves towards this but they are still far from the amount that is required to make both sides be on equal ground.

It seems like you're reaching now. That's a pretty flimsy claim. True to a degree, but hardly enough to disqualify paintball from being a sport.

It's not flimsy. Can you name any sports that don't regulate the gear of each team?
Every sport has general rules on equipment. Still, different brands are present, each with their own pro's and cons. By general rules, I mean things such as bat length in baseball, padding in contact sports, and so on. You are required to be within the boundaries spelled out, but the quality is never mentioned. For example, sure, the bats need to be wood and can't be lighter than a certain weight, but different companies output lighter weights and stronger bats. You (or your team) is paying more, and if you can't afford it, then looks like your out of luck.

Your claim to paintball being 'not a sport' because of the un level playing fields, I call nothing more than baloney. What about pump tournaments? It would seem to me that 'unregulated' means that I could walk onto a pump field with my A-5 and not be in violation of any of the rules.

No, my point was that it wasen't regulated enough.
Much like a sport like lacrosse, a paint ball player needs to put his own equipment together in a manner that suits his playing style. Different shafts and heads (not p33nz) give advantaged over others to fit the player's style of play. There has to be elasticity where players need different equipment for each position, and it is part of the player's responsibility to outfit himself with the correct gear. Same thing in a sport like baseball; you don't see outfielders with catchers mits, you have to have the right gear for your job.

Skill doesn't decide the outcomes of paintball games? You're absolutely nuts, and putting far, far too much faith in something that is predominantly a hunk of metal and plastic.

I didn't say skill doesn't decide the outcome of paintball games. My point was that though skill is still important, a paintball game potentially could and often is affected by the gear of each team.
With bps caps and velocity regulations, how so? Unless your playing with absolute crap equipment, then I can see, but if you are, you need better stuff, just like ANY other sport. Crap cleats in soccer, garbage bats in baseball, or chinsy sticks in lacrosse will all hinder your performance, just like in paintball. With a somewhat decent barrel and a mildly consistent gun, the balls aren't going to be shooting much more accurately or consistently than another

Players play with the markers of their choosing. If their choice doesn't match up with that of their opponents, then they need to make adjustments in their play styles, or develop skills to make the fields even. And equipment IS regulated in high end games, hence the caps on BPS...to level the playing field.

I made indirect note to the caps on bps. Capping the bps is a step forward but nowhere close to the control that is needed to level the field.
You can only level the field so much. If you can't afford the basic equipment, it's going to be hard to play. But crap equipment in any sport is going to be a disadvantage, no matter how you slice it. It is the player's option to buy garbage or quality. If your entering a speed ball tournament with tippmanns, it's like playing goalie with no pads-sure you can do it, but it's going to make your job much harder. Equipment inequalities are present in EVERY sport, and this doesn't make anything less of a sport, so why is paintball different? A player has a choice on his equipment- how to put it together, and the quality he wishes to purchase. Playing with inadequate stuff is obviously going to hinder performance, but that is pretty obvious, and applies to everything.
 



I didn't say that paintball couldn't be a sport, I just said that it isin't one now.


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Posted By: DOME_SHOT
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:12pm

info from   

http://www.nppl.tv/site//categories/PAINTBALL/ - http://www.nppl.tv/site//categories/PAINTBALL/

 

  1. Paintball is the #1 extreme sport in the United States, with 9.97 million participants.
  2. Paintball is the fastest growing extreme sport in the United States, with a 44.0% growth from 2001 to 2006.
  3. Paintball participants are 81.1% male.
  4. 83.2% of Paintball participants are in the 12-34 demographic.
  5. The average age of Paintball participants is 22 years old.
  6. 61.2% of the Paintball participant household has annual income greater than $50,000 per year

Monopoly is a board game



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:14pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:


Okay, Tolga, my point has been addressed.Carl: Whoopty-doo? If I have $1k worth of upgrades into an Ego 8 or what-have-you, it will still shoot 280 FPS at 13.33 BPS. What does it matter if the the Ego 8 I'm shooting (hypothetically) is any different than a DM8 the other guy is shooting? It is still limited to the constraints of the rules. Going back to the soccer thing, that's saying the other guy has different cleats. They are equipment, limited to what the rules and regulations say, that help you achieve victory.Mind you, I'm talking official tourneys, not rec-ball.


280fps at 13.33 bps is not exact enough.

Every little bit helps.

It's like nascar, they don't even use cars made by different companies anymore. It all consists of the exact same car just named and painted differently.


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:15pm
Dome shot: Paintball is NOT an extreme sport at all.


Posted By: DOME_SHOT
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:17pm

i didn't write it, its from the Nppl web site

theres a link for you there just so you dont have to strain your self to look



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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:21pm
Originally posted by DOME_SHOT DOME_SHOT wrote:

i didn't write it, its from the Nppl web site


theres a link for you there just so you dont have to strain your self to look



And your point?


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:22pm
Dome, that was a HORRIBLE argument. Seriously.

Carl: Please clarify what more you can want? All the markers are shooting the same, what else can you do to level the field equipment-wise? It's a free market, as long as you stay within regulations. What one person has, the other person is fully capable of having. The very nature of this keeps the playing field level, as all high-end markers really only differ in "feel" anyway...


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Posted By: DOME_SHOT
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:26pm

Sport is an activity that is governed by a set of rules or customs and often engaged in competitively. Sports commonly refer to activities where the physical capabilities of the competitor are the sole or primary determiner of the outcome (winning or losing), but the term is also used to include activities such as mind sports and motor sports where mental acuity or equipment quality are major factors.



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Posted By: DOME_SHOT
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:29pm

Paintball is a sport in which participants eliminate opponents from play by hitting them with liquid-filled, breakable, gelatin paintballs shot from a compressed-gas-powered "paintball marker".

Paintball draws a wide array of players, and the Sporting Goods Manufacturer's Association estimates that 5 million people play in the United States annually, with 1.9 million playing at least 15 times a year.[1] Insurance statistics show that paintball is one of the safest sports, with fewer injuries per exposure than sports like tennis, golf, and bowling.[2]

Games can be played either indoors or outdoors and take various forms, of which some of the most popular are woodsball, scenario and speedball. Rules for playing paintball vary widely, with most designed to ensure that participants enjoy the sport in a safe environment. The sport requires a significant amount of equipment.

A game of paintball usually involves two opposing teams seeking to eliminate all of the other team's players or to complete some other objective, such as retrieving a flag, eliminating a specific player, or other paintball variations. Depending on the style of paintball played, a paintball game can last from seconds to days, although typical woodsball games are five to thirty minutes long.

 

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:29pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Dome, that was a HORRIBLE argument. Seriously.Carl: Please clarify what more you can want? All the markers are shooting the same, what else can you do to level the field equipment-wise? It's a free market, as long as you stay within regulations. What one person has, the other person is fully capable of having. The very nature of this keeps the playing field level, as all high-end markers really only differ in "feel" anyway...


-Same or extremely close to the same barrel. (there is still too much variation)

-Same marker operation

-All hpa tanks same

The list goes on but you get my point.

I know a lot will disagree but the level of equipment balance is not even close to that of other sports.


Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:30pm
Carl, have you ever played in an actual tournament or are you basing your argument on the woods?


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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:46pm
Carl, seriously. I really want you to tell me WHY barrels and HPA tanks and marker operations should be the same. None of these offer a real advantage.

It sounds like you're playing every card possible to win this argument...

Dome: If you'd have read the arguments, the "dictionary" thing would have already been debunked. Same with Wiki.


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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 4:50pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Dome, that was a HORRIBLE argument. Seriously.Carl: Please clarify what more you can want? All the markers are shooting the same, what else can you do to level the field equipment-wise? It's a free market, as long as you stay within regulations. What one person has, the other person is fully capable of having. The very nature of this keeps the playing field level, as all high-end markers really only differ in "feel" anyway...


-Same or extremely close to the same barrel. (there is still too much variation)
No. I want my barrel shorter when playing up front, a sacrifice in accuracy, but an advantage in maneuverability. I want a longer one when playing mid/back for a little more accuracy, more consistent shots, and bunker manipulation. Bore size also plays a big factor in accuracy with the paint you are using.

-Same marker operation
Electro pneumatic is pretty much the industry standard. If you walk on with a pump or pneumatic, that is just stupid and your OBVIOUSLY putting yourself at a big disadvantage. It's your choice, but this goes back to how players need to properly equip themselves.

-All hpa tanks same
This is ridiculous. Different guns require either high or low pressure to function properly. Again, size is an issue. Front players want small and compact, and back players need more air to rip. Fast shooting uses more air, and since backs shoot fast for pretty much the entire game consistently, they need bigger tanks. Fronts want everything small for a tighter target and easier gun hand transfers.

The list goes on but you get my point.
Every point you have said so far was bogus. Anyone who has even a little bit of paintball knowledge could shoot holes through your entire argument.

I know a lot will disagree but the level of equipment balance is not even close to that of other sports.
Who is to draw that line? When is equipment equality too unequal to disqualify something from being a sport?


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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 5:04pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Monopoly doesn't require physical skill.  Stop being a troll, Carl.


Stop accusing me of being a troll skillet, that was a serious reply.

One of the biggest reasons why paintball is not a sport is that often, the game is decided by player gear rather than player skill.

This the cop out of players that suck or can't hang.

Every sport that I can think of off the top of my head regulates the equipment used by each team so that they are on equal ground and skill decides the victor.

You mean not sports like Motocross, NASCAR, Skateboarding ect ect...? like there are no new development. Like in Basketball shoes and football equipment

This is not done in paintball, even in the advanced levels but especially in the lower levels where gear control is often not present at all. Yes, there have some moves towards this but they are still far from the amount that is required to make both sides be on equal ground.





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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 5:06pm
Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Carl, have you ever played in an actual tournament or are you basing your argument on the woods?


Why does that matter?

I have never played in a tournament but I am certainly not basing it on woods. I am basing it on "pro" play.

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:


Carl, seriously. I really want you to tell me WHY barrels and HPA tanks and marker operations should be the same. None of these offer a real advantage.It sounds like you're playing every card possible to win this argument...Dome: If you'd have read the arguments, the "dictionary" thing would have already been debunked. Same with Wiki.


One barrel can be much greater than another.

Consistancy is a fairly big deal too.



Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 5:09pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

Carl, have you ever played in an actual tournament or are you basing your argument on the woods?


Why does that matter?

I have never played in a tournament but I am certainly not basing it on woods. I am basing it on "pro" play.

Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:


Carl, seriously. I really want you to tell me WHY barrels and HPA tanks and marker operations should be the same. None of these offer a real advantage.It sounds like you're playing every card possible to win this argument...Dome: If you'd have read the arguments, the "dictionary" thing would have already been debunked. Same with Wiki.


One barrel can be much greater than another.

Consistancy is a fairly big deal too.



If you have ever shot good equipment you will find that virtually all the high-end stuff is the same.  I'd almost be willing to wager you have never even played with a modern highend gun, because if you had, you would realize what I have said.  Barrels and air sources and the like are all practically the same now-a-days.


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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 5:09pm
Paintball is not an extreme sport.

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:


Electro pneumatic is pretty much the industry standard. If you walk on with an electro against a pump, that is just stupid and your OBVIOUSLY putting yourself at a big disadvantage.


I agree completely


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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 5:15pm
They have various leagues for differing levels of equipment (pumps, mechs, electropnuematic) and skill.  The playing field is pretty level.

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 5:17pm
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:



Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:


Carl, seriously. I really want you to tell me WHY barrels and HPA tanks and marker operations should be the same. None of these offer a real advantage.It sounds like you're playing every card possible to win this argument...Dome: If you'd have read the arguments, the "dictionary" thing would have already been debunked. Same with Wiki.


One barrel can be much greater than another.

Consistancy is a fairly big deal too.



You keep on saying the same thing, but never actually elaborate on any of your points. What major advantage is a guy with a Dye UL kit going to have over the other guy with a Freak kit? Or the guy that has a DXS tank compared to a MacDev tank? There is NO advantage, so effectively your entire regulation/even playing field argument has been tossed out.


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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 7:05pm
Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:


Electro pneumatic is pretty much the industry standard. If you walk on with an electro against a pump, that is just stupid and your OBVIOUSLY putting yourself at a big disadvantage.


I agree completely

 poor electro pneumatic wouldnt know what hit him, that woudltn be very fair.


Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 7:11pm
Actually, you guys have convinced me to a point. I have heard enough that I will agree on that point.

I still don't think it's a sport for various other reasons but you guys are right.



Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 05 March 2008 at 8:00pm
Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

-its a game where, yes you can spend a lot of money on paint and on a marker, and a marker that suites you does help, and that part is awesome, but anyone can shoot anyone. ive been bunkered by guys who have played for the first time, ive been shot by little kids, my own team, and ive also shot people with $1000+ guns, ive 1 shoted, and used pump agaisnt electros with some effect(only played with it 2wice in woods, 2wice in a speedball field, always held my ground, moved up, but with reduced eliminations, but im getting better).



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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 6:29am

its pretty much enivitable that eventually you get shot by pretty much anyone you play. even pros have been beaten by teams ranked well under them, its just chance, if a better team faced a lower team and played a couple thousand games, the poros wold have wined the majority but the lesser team would have gotten some eliminaitons. (plus i had to cover 2 lanes, i was at the 50 and he came up on my blindspot, while using my pump for the 1st time in a airbunker field)



Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 8:28am
I've never been shot.

I also bunkered a guy with one arm once on accident.  At first I felt bad, but then realized he didn't come to the paintball park to not get shot at.


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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 1:12pm
Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

I've never been shot.

I also bunkered a guy with one arm once on accident.  At first I felt bad, but then realized he didn't come to the paintball park to not get shot at.

First time my uncle played, he was goofin around and shot like a 10 year old birthday party kid point blank in the back of the head while walking on the field. It was hilarious.


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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 3:07pm
Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

I've never been shot.

yeah. neither have those little kids who stay so far back that no paintball could reach that range, or the ones that call themselves out when someone shoots at them, or your havnt played with people on par of you rown skill. even a pro player can get shot by a noon if he gets lucky.  boasting never been shot is like boasting never running up or shooting up 10 year olds when you know you could play semi pro or something.    dye getting little kids hurt kills paintball, ever been knocked out by getting shot so much in the head and then when u regained conciousness you started shaking cuz you couldnt tell what way was up? hurting little kids is probably worse than hurting animals, liek that us soldier did. do you think that was hilarious?    


Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 3:12pm
Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

Originally posted by Skillet42565 Skillet42565 wrote:

I've never been shot.

yeah. neither have those little kids who stay so far back that no paintball could reach that range, or the ones that call themselves out when someone shoots at them, or your havnt played with people on par of you rown skill. even a pro player can get shot by a noon if he gets lucky.  boasting never been shot is like boasting never running up or shooting up 10 year olds when you know you could play semi pro or something.    dye getting little kids hurt kills paintball, ever been knocked out by getting shot so much in the head and then when u regained conciousness you started shaking cuz you couldnt tell what way was up? hurting little kids is probably worse than hurting animals, liek that us soldier did. do you think that was hilarious?    

Apparently yours is broken, so I got you a new one:

The kid in pain wasn't funny, the reaction from my uncle was. You are retarded.


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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 3:14pm
I find paintball to be awesome due to the fact that it rolls stress relief, exercise, and competition all in one. When I worked in the industry, I found it rather pleasing that if my manager pissed me off, I could go out and shoot him on the weekend.

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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 3:32pm
those of you who are in the customer service field can relate to this, Shooting the annoying customer.  You know the type, always calls, always complains, nothing nice to say and treats you like dirt. the type that is generally nasty to you. I imagine shooting them.


Posted By: a5Tpp789
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 4:46pm

Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

I find paintball to be awesome due to the fact that it rolls stress relief, exercise, and competition all in one. When I worked in the industry, I found it rather pleasing that if my manager pissed me off, I could go out and shoot him on the weekend.

ya my boss plays too although he is a good boss though

but i have lit him up becuase i shot him and either he couldnt tell or he wanted to keep playing so i threw 5 paintballs his way but he was cool about it

 

but it does relieve stress if i am worrrying about school or something i go and play and I am carefree afterwards



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Posted By: p_p_b_h
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 4:53pm
Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:


First time my uncle played, he was goofin around and shot like a 10 year old birthday party kid point blank in the back of the head while walking on the field. It was hilarious.

not my uncles reaction was hilarious. IT was hilarious.  i wouldnt find the look on anyones face funny, id be worried about the kid.  this forum has people who are sticklers for grammar, and proper names as well as describing 100% of what you mean. IT was hilarious sounds like, it, the kid, getting shot point blank is hilarious.    i will not post again, i have lost faith in all those forumers i trusted and thought were great. goodbye.


Posted By: a5Tpp789
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 4:57pm
so anyways what was the story with the us soldier man i wish i was up to date

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if you put 500 dollars into an A5 it is still an A5


Posted By: jerseypaint
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 5:12pm
Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

i will not post again, i have lost faith in all those forumers i trusted and thought were great. goodbye.

And T&O consumes yet another soul.

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Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 5:14pm
Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

Originally posted by Dye Playa Dye Playa wrote:


First time my uncle played, he was goofin around and shot like a 10 year old birthday party kid point blank in the back of the head while walking on the field. It was hilarious.

not my uncles reaction was hilarious. IT was hilarious.  i wouldnt find the look on anyones face funny, id be worried about the kid.  this forum has people who are sticklers for grammar, and proper names as well as describing 100% of what you mean. IT was hilarious sounds like, it, the kid, getting shot point blank is hilarious.    i will not post again, i have lost faith in all those forumers i trusted and thought were great. goodbye.

A single paint ball to the back of the head is not going to kill someone. The situation was funny, it wasn't like a real gun at a friggin' range blowing off his dome. And "it" doesn't have to apply to the kid; it can apply to the situation and reactions, which is what my sentence attempted to portray. Your interpretation was of something I did not mean. It's not my fault you took something the wrong way. But whatever.


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Posted By: a5Tpp789
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 7:12pm

Originally posted by jerseypaint jerseypaint wrote:

Originally posted by p_p_b_h p_p_b_h wrote:

i will not post again, i have lost faith in all those forumers i trusted and thought were great. goodbye.

And T&O consumes yet another soul.

i lol'd in my head



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if you put 500 dollars into an A5 it is still an A5


Posted By: Dye Playa
Date Posted: 06 March 2008 at 7:24pm
Originally posted by a5Tpp789 a5Tpp789 wrote:

so anyways what was the story with the us soldier man i wish i was up to date

A US soldier in the mid east threw a puppy off a cliff while his buddies video taped...how accidentally shooting a single paintball at someone is comparable to that is beyond me, but that's the scoop.


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