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Topic: I need some advice on the Alpha Black
Posted By: JagdAlex
Subject: I need some advice on the Alpha Black
Date Posted: 09 March 2008 at 3:01pm
Hi guys,

I am a newcomer in the paintball world and with the review that I've read so far the Alpha Black seems to be a really solid choice price wise and it seems to have a more than decent stock gun barrel which I think is pretty rare with Tippmann usually.

I am really tempted to buy the ABT but I have a few questions that maybe some of you guys who bought it could answer for me

- Is it possible to put a generic M16/M4 picatinny rail mount on top and underneath the handguard shroud? I want to mod it SOPMOD stylin (vertical grip/bipod and eventually laser or flashlight fixed on the top railing), and does an RIS for a Custom98C would fit instead of the tactical handguard shroud? Because if it fits, it would look way nicer than the actual M16 HG shroud.

- I would like to eventually put a red dot. It did not see any hole on the carrying handle for a picatinny scope mount, do you think guys that it can simply be fixed by simply drilling a whole in the carrying handle so that the screw of the pica scope mount can go through?

- How accurate the stock 11 barrel is? I read a review of a guy who purchased one and said that the barrel was so accurate that he was able to group shots within 1 feet at 70 yards...That seems BS to me. Anyone who bought it can testify on that?

- Semi auto or E-grip does it make a huge difference in woodball? I heard also the E-grip was the kind of thing that is breaking left and right. I heard also that some of the best guy out there are still using semi-auto gun.

Thanks for your answers guys!



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Posted By: Brianwawrz
Date Posted: 09 March 2008 at 8:43pm
I just got my Alpha Black a couple of days ago, here it goes.....

-It isn't possible to mount rails on the stock handguard, but since the
marker takes barrels threaded for the 98, it would be possible to mount a
barrel with a shroud that already has rails on it.

-Yes, it would be possible to drill a hole in the carrying handle to mount
the rail.

-The stock barrel is fairly accurate. I haven't been able to truly test it,
besides firing a few quick shots in my backyard, but I would reccomend
getting a different barrel. A currently have a SP's 16in Linear barrel on
mine, and IMO, it looks pretty good.

-My friend has a RT, which is similar to the e-grip, and I love it. VERY
fast and VERY loud, and most of all VERY intimidating. I don't know what
type of e-grip will be released for the Alpha Black, but I can't wait for it
to come out. I know that I will definately be picking one up.

I love my Alpha Black and I'm sure that you would to. It is a very solid
marker, and I am beginning to like it more than my 98.


Posted By: JagdAlex
Date Posted: 09 March 2008 at 10:08pm

Thanks very much for those infos Brian.

I will be getting an M16 RIS 98c handguard shroud then.Probably from OPSGEAR. 

I was looking too at a 16 inches barrel replacement. What would be the best price/ratio wise, you guys would recommend for a really good accurate M16/M4 barrel threaded for the 98? There is one M16/M4 barrel on OPSGEAR aat 29.99$ instead of 79.99$ What do you guys think of that deal?

I specify accurate because I will not be getting an E-grip any time soon and I will stick to the semi-auto, so every shot should count as much as possible.

Many thanks for your answers



Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 09 March 2008 at 10:12pm
Lapco Bigshot or J&J Ceramic cant beat them at that price range.

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Posted By: JagdAlex
Date Posted: 09 March 2008 at 10:14pm

Do they have M16 style barrel finish? Like the one you can find on OPSGEAR?

Do you have any links for me Elvis for those 2 barrels that youa re tlaking about?

 

Thank you



Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 09 March 2008 at 11:12pm
They do not have the M-4 Birdcage end but with the accuracy for the buck you'll be looking downrange not at your muzzle.

And http://google.com - Google es tu Amigo!

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Posted By: JagdAlex
Date Posted: 09 March 2008 at 11:22pm

Ya I found them with my dear friend google!

But my last question would be, if I am using the M4 RIS handguard shroud for the 98c and a J&J. Since it is screwing on the barrell and the barrell is not an Opsgear one and also it is not an entirely flat barrell like the OPSGEAR M4/M16 replica, would it still be secured properly to the barrel?

Thank you



Posted By: Tony Hottmann
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 1:15pm

http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=r9KqdWYpsGKr_yHxoqdq3WzgvRCjaVL1NHM=?ProductID=KIXAqArbJn8AAAEJroTspNuB - http://www.actionvillage.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/S tore/en/-/USD/DisplayProductInformation-Start;sid=r9KqdWYpsG Kr_yHxoqdq3WzgvRCjaVL1NHM=?ProductID=KIXAqArbJn8AAAEJroTspNu B  

this looks awsome just a lil pricey



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 1:39pm
For the extra $20 it costs, 100% go for the egrip.

That is a fantastic deal for an egripped marker. If you don't see use now, you will in the future. And if you ever sell it, it will increase the value a lot.



Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 12 March 2008 at 3:55pm

Originally posted by JagdAlex JagdAlex wrote:

Hi guys,

I am a newcomer in the paintball world and with the review that I've read so far the Alpha Black seems to be a really solid choice price wise and it seems to have a more than decent stock gun barrel which I think is pretty rare with Tippmann usually.

I am really tempted to buy the ABT but I have a few questions that maybe some of you guys who bought it could answer for me

 and does an RIS for a Custom98C would fit instead of the tactical handguard shroud? Because if it fits, it would look way nicer than the actual M16 HG shroud.

I dont believe so. The 98's RIS screws in like a barrel (or clamps on the barrel, depending on what kind) and I believe the AB's is attached to the reciever, I could be wrong though.

- I would like to eventually put a red dot. It did not see any hole on the carrying handle for a picatinny scope mount, do you think guys that it can simply be fixed by simply drilling a whole in the carrying handle so that the screw of the pica scope mount can go through?

Someone else has already done this.

- How accurate the stock 11 barrel is? I read a review of a guy who purchased one and said that the barrel was so accurate that he was able to group shots within 1 feet at 70 yards...That seems BS to me. Anyone who bought it can testify on that?

70 feet? Doesn't sound unreasonable. 70 Yards? 70 Yards=210 feet. Doubtful if the paint would break at that distance. Aftermarket barrels are always better.

- Semi auto or E-grip does it make a huge difference in woodball? I heard also the E-grip was the kind of thing that is breaking left and right. I heard also that some of the best guy out there are still using semi-auto gun.

Its up to you, IMO. Hell, there are a ton of expierenced players that play pump! E-Grips are more reliable than that.

Thanks for your answers guys!



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