Branches of the armed forces
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Topic: Branches of the armed forces
Posted By: Savage93fvss
Subject: Branches of the armed forces
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:29pm
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I just enlisted in the US Marine Corps. I made my desicion on the Marines because I think the Marines have the most rigorous (sp?) training, and I believe they are the most effective/hardass guys out of the bunch. I know the different branches have different specializations ie. ground, air and sea, but factor what you know about their training and any personal experiences with people you've met or know. I just wanted a general publics opinion on the matter. |
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:36pm
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I'd have to go with internet badass as the most badass. [/pic here] ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:41pm
| It takes a real man to come out of the closet and join the navy. |
Posted By: Bango
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:50pm
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What's your MOS?
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:51pm
In the event of forced enlistment, the Navy/Airforce is my branch of choice. No idiotic army-personnel giving me a 1 in 4 chance of being shot by friendly fire, and no horrible boot camp with the Marines. ------------- 
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carl_the_sniper wrote:Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:55pm
| I'm in the DEP now. No beds in parris island till' september. But 0311, basic infantry. |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 13 March 2008 at 11:57pm
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If I do end up joining the military, it'd definitely be with the Marines. Going with what I've seen in person and at school, they seem to be the most hardcore and professional of the branches. That's how I like to roll. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:00am
If I end up going into the military instead of becoming a civilian pilot next year, I actually plan to go Air Force. But only if I can get in as a pilot. If not, i'm off to the army. |
Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:01am
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The Army seems like it's run the same as everything governement. The Marines are run like a company. From friends in the army I hear Bootcamp is fun, and like a sucky summer camp. & nbsp; & nbsp; & nbsp; The Navy is ok just not hard, and something like the service should be hard. Boring The Airforce is the same as the Navy Boring And the Coast Guard is just that, the Coast Guard |
Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:03am
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You have to be an officer to fly in any branch. Officer School is the sucks. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:08am
Remember that I am talking about the Canadian Forces. We (and I think you guys do too) require an officer to hold a university degree or be working towards one. Assuming that I am accepted and decide to go, I will be attending Royal Military College for the next four years. Being paid to go to university is win but I'm still not sure as job decisions are not made till the end of the first year now. (aka. no gurantee I will be a pilot and will not have just wasted a year of my life) At least in Canada, it is hard work to get in and hard work while you are there. There is a lot of prestiege to going though. |
Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:11am
| S.E.A.L.s FTW |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:12am
I'd be willing to bet that going in to train for special forces wouldn't be quite so boring. Tell be becoming a Ranger or Seal would be boring. -------------
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:18am
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I'd probably go Air Force if I knew I would physically meet qualifications to fly (eye sight), otherwise I'd probably go Coast Guard, and my third choice would be Marines. |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:35am
| i'm headed into the army. family thing, plus the army has more school oportunities like airborne, air assault, etc. |
Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:11am
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I'm actually in Delta Force
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 8:16am
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Mmmm... Marines. Get posted to an embassy, and stand up straight by the door for hours on end, like a doorman/ornament cross-breed. That's pretty badass, all right. :) ------------- "No society can surely be flourishing and happy, of which the far greater part of the members are poor and miserable." |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 10:12am
Ah... But has he ever done THIS?  I'm on the left... Yeah, that was a weird summer. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 10:17am
We don't officially exist you know. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 10:24am
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ARMY gets the best toys.
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Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 10:29am
Can you verify this from information not coming from a recruiter. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 10:32am
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Susan, When a Marine volunteers for embassy duty, the first, the very first place the send you to is a "hardship duty station". a place like the Ivory Coast, Chad, Liberia or some other 3rd world nightmare where at any given time, and it has happened alot, the locals decide to attack the embassy because you are an American. Someplaces are very nice, like Spain and others, like Sierra Leone are a living hell. Lot's of fun!!! Hiding behind sand bags while drugged up boys between the ages of 10 to 19 shoot at you because the blame you for their problems. And you can't shoot back because it will become an international incident. Please keep in mind this is my experience in Liberia in 1990-91 (operation Sharp Edge) as a Marine providing support for those Marines in the American embassy. U.S.M.C. U Signed the Mother-loving Contract |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 10:42am
Definitely some truth to that. The army have all got M4s while the Marines are still mostly stuck with longer rifles with iron sights, for instance. Having to pick up a decent combat optic on your own dime is painful. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:13am
Fixed. ------------- 
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:29am
actually delta force does exist, its Delta Company of the 160th Special Forces Group. That's what they're referred to as |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:34am
Thats what we want you to think. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 11:50am
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The A4's have decent optics. However it is always nice to have a set of iron sights lying around, just in case. ------------- 
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:15pm
Wrong Noobs they are known as "The Delta Force"  ------------- 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:23pm
I'm looking at picking up either an EOTech or Aimpoint right now, plus perhaps a 3x magnifier. I'll have a flip-up iron sight for backup, of course. I'm not a fan of fixed magnified optics as your sole sight option... Give me a variable magnification sight, or a flip-to-side magnification on one of the aforementioned reflex sights any day. Trouble is an EOTech with magnifier and mount is $1100. Then again, you get what you pay for. The sight we have has fantastic optics, but it's not a good mount, and most combat now happens within 100m anyway. I prefer fast target acquisition at close range as my default... I wish our forces would buy more EOTechs, dammit. As it stands, the chances of my platoon getting any are slim. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:25pm
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The A4's have decent optics. However it is always nice to have a set of iron sights lying around, just in case. [/QUOTE] Trijicon-acog. great optic but too much $$$$$ |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:29pm
The A4's have decent optics. However it is always nice to have a set of iron sights lying around, just in case. [/QUOTE] Trijicon-acog. great optic but too much $$$$$ [/QUOTE]I didn't realize the Marines had picked up the ACOG. That's a fantastic optic, although it's still magnified. Then again, you can get the Dr. Optic reflex sight to mount on top of it. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:32pm
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All A4's are issued with both ACOG's and Iron Sights. I dont know aobut you but when I am clearing rooms or what not I am not really looking down my sights... -------------
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:40pm
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Room clearing is ugly business. It's definately a snap shooting enviroment. |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:49pm
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I've cleared the room myself a few times, right after a chili bake-off. ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:53pm
| the 12ga solution! Fixes most problems with a single application. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:53pm
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I love these threads so much.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:54pm
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 12:56pm
| Marines is definitely the most "badass". However, if I were to join the armed forces, I would better serve the country in a room with paper and a calculator rather than out in the field, so it would probably be USAF. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:06pm
| Join the Corps and be a pilot! spend 6 months as a grunt/FAC calling in airstrikes on the bad guys! |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:09pm
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I am SEAL Rainbow Delta. Don't mess. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:10pm
| Oh Yeah, where is your I.D. card and secret decoder ring??? |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:13pm
I.D. cards are for n00bs. Not ultra secret killing machines. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:16pm
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but no secret decoder ring????? What good is a super secret military anti-terrorist strike force without a secret decoder ring??? |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:17pm
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I never admitted nor denied the existence of the decoder ring.
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:18pm
I didn't say anything about room clearing. Complex outdoor environment, fields of fire from 10-200 meters, etc etc... E.g., convoy takes a hit, vehicle loses a wheel and we need to wait for recovery/casevac. Could happen in an urban environment, or in the middle of grape or pot fields. I'm looking for something that will let me very quickly and accurately engage threats in close, and still be effective at a longer distance when I'm out dismounted on a cordon. In a pinch an unmagnified EOTech with 1MOA centre dot would still be fine- and you can get the ballistic reticles now that show drop at 200, 300, 400, 500 and 600. I just don't want to be stuck with a magnified optic, and I want something with faster acquisition than iron sights, so either an EOTech or an Aimpoint. With any luck I'll never have to use it- but better to have and not need than need and not have. The scopes we use cause pretty awful tunnel vision. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:18pm
He knows. Load the poison dart blowgun Reb. -------------
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:32pm
| I have my challenge coin. I received it after I surrendered my decoder ring. |
Posted By: X-51
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 1:53pm
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room clearing's nothing with one of these ------------- Once we clued in on the fact that life is finite, the thought of losing it didn't scare us anymore. The end comes no matter what, all that matters is how you wanna go out, on your feet or your knees? |
Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 2:28pm
I want one. -------------
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Posted By: X-51
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 3:02pm
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I am like two steps away from making one, I have an AR-15 an a sbr 870 I just need the rail and mounts. ------------- Once we clued in on the fact that life is finite, the thought of losing it didn't scare us anymore. The end comes no matter what, all that matters is how you wanna go out, on your feet or your knees? |
Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 3:07pm
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You do realize that those things are illegal, right? -------------
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 3:23pm
| If the shotgun barrel is over 18.5 inches and the rifle doesn't go full auto or burst it should be fine. unless you live in California or New Jersey. |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 3:30pm
Psh. This is the only tool I need:  The others are reserved for extra special operations.   -------------
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Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 3:38pm
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Who is going to mount a shotgun with a 18.5" barrel under a AR-15? -------------
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 3:40pm
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Hamster style? ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 3:41pm
From people that have been in the Navy. Nobody seems to know about the Marine Corps Recon guys, they're pretty tough cookies. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 3:59pm
| My toy store, aka my friends gun shop, has one with a 20" barrel under it. it has to be the most poorly balanced monstrosity I have had the chance to examine. Mossberg and Remington sell 18.5" for there shotguns. Bushmaster was/is (?) a M203 mock up that fired a single 12ga shell. They called it a "flare launcher". |
Posted By: ShortyBP
Date Posted: 14 March 2008 at 7:22pm
(Continuing the thread hijack) If you're gonna get a "flare launcher", at least get a Cobray (or similar) 37mm under-barrel. Has the nice M203 appearance. Not all that expensive either, all things considered. Then when you decide you want to 'upgrade' from smoke/flares, just fill out an ATF Form 1 and classify it as a "Destructive Device". 
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 10:08am
| Well, either way, you are not getting a lot of use for either. lock busting with the 12ga and "illuminating" (yeah right!) a dark area. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 10:27am
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Hard ass is actually supposed to be someone who's strict. But all the retards at school are acting like it's the same as bad ass and it's annoying as hell. And I hope you didn't pick that branch because you thought it was the most "bad ass" of them all.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 11:08am
Badgers? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!* *Y'all have no idea how long I've waited to say that on the internet . . . thanks Tolgak. -------------
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 11:19am
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We don't need badgers, but nothing is more entertaining than tossing one into a room full of... well... anybody. It's a good flashbang replacement (only a few orders of magnitude more lethal) and is reusable. What's not to like? -------------
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 8:50pm
| From what I've heard the navy actually has tougher PT than the Marine Corps. There's wasn't much PT after 1st phase. Army bootcamp for infantry(it's combined infantry training and boot) also sounds tough. USMC recruit training can certainly suck, I have scars on my sack and my lungs to prove it(didn't make it, don't feel like being a **edited** and getting disability for resulting asthma) but apparently they've toned it down a little bit and removed body hardeners etc. If at all possible try to ship during the fall/winter. Summer platoons are huge and full of retards fresh out of highschool. You will spend a lot of time running up and down the ladderwell to 3rd deck with a seabag on your back and MOLLE pack on your chest if you go in the summer. Usually until someone ends up in the hospital as a heat casualty or enough fist frights break out. Good luck. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 8:55pm
Being the guy that has to retrieve them for reuse. -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 10:02pm
When did you hear about this? We still had body hardeners when I went, and if they took it out I'd be really surprised.
Oh so true. You definitely want to go during the winter if you end up going San Diego. Warm during the days, but nights SUCK since they keep the portholes open all night and especially during hygiene time. Then again, summer guys get flag days where you just spend the whole day doing the mini-grinder. ------------- 
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 15 March 2008 at 10:11pm
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IB4WHALE I changed my mind about the navy. I'm gonna emigrate to the UK and be a sniper. -------------
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 10:35am
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Marines.
whoever said SEALs.... ummmm SEALS isnt a branch. its a job in the Navy.... each branch has their own special ops. they are all basically the same. just specialize in different jobs. |
Posted By: X-51
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 10:39am
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speaking of seals and marines the rock sucks. what happened to those casey ryback movies in which one former seal/cook took on fleets of infantry units? And then all of the sudden an entire platoon of seals can't take out a bunch of pansy marines? ------------- Once we clued in on the fact that life is finite, the thought of losing it didn't scare us anymore. The end comes no matter what, all that matters is how you wanna go out, on your feet or your knees? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 12:31pm
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Whoa . . . random.
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 12:38pm
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With stories heard from my brother who is in the Army, the Marines have it easier. When the Marines would share the base with the Army for a few days and they exchanged stories, Marines were basically pampered. Army was less pampered kind of like they are in a place where you don't have the every day comodities. Now the Navy Seals is as badass as it gets. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 1:54pm
Agreed,=. Casey Ryback took over a whole train. Those Seals in the rock get destroyed for tripping the first motion sensor. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: X-51
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 3:51pm
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^^^ thank you, utter garbage. ------------- Once we clued in on the fact that life is finite, the thought of losing it didn't scare us anymore. The end comes no matter what, all that matters is how you wanna go out, on your feet or your knees? |
Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 16 March 2008 at 4:39pm
easier? we get second hand equipment in a lot of cases. army bases are much much larger, with a lot more commodities soooo i dont get where he says we have it easier. our bootcamp is more difficult. we dont have the stress cards like the army does, or did. drill sergeants (Army) dont yell any more from what ive been told, drill instructors(Marine) still choke us out, throw us around, and do lots of yelling. we still go to the tree line to fix disputes. they army guys ive seen train, have rifle racks so they dont have to carry their rifles everywhere. ive only seen that once in the Marines, and that was in a BN COC for the officers. the army guys i see training also very rarely wear body armor. we train flaks, kevlars, and E-SAPIs the entire time, only take them off during a class. we still have the old heavy kevlars in use, with the old support system on the inside, most of my friends have those, i was fortunate enough to be issued a lightweight with the net system, still not the padded system we are supposed to be issued. but better than the old leather strap my friends have. EDIT: Fixed spelling mistake. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 12:40pm
| robocop, you are so far from the truth it's pathetic. how often does the Army get deployed over seas? and when they do, do they stand on 24/7 posting? on a 6 month deployment, we'll say like a MED cruise, that is a Mediteranean ship borne deployment usually lasting 6 months or more, you get little time off. The Navy got liberty in almost all of the ports we hit, France, Spain, Italy, Greece,and we, the Marines, got to go play war games and training ops with the locals. |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 1:49pm
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http://www.snopes.com/military/stress.asp - The Army doesn't get stress cards. -------------
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Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 1:53pm
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As Marine stationed on an Army base, I think that I have the authority to comment on this matter. To give you some background, I do IT Support for our Detachment here. I deal with the Army on a daily basis, and I used to work next door to where the Army Basic Trainees live. My office is currently situated in the middle of Army AIT barracks. I see Drill Sargeants every day, and I see Basic Trainees on a daily basis in the PX. The DS's don't yell at their recruits, they ask them nicely to do stuff. When a recruit backtalks the Drills, nothing can be done to them other than NJP. The recruits display no respect to anyone, and the Army apperently doesn't salute officers anymore either. In the year and a half I have been here I have only seen a Army officer saluted by another Army cat once or twice. Recruits in boot camp get weekend liberty, and are allowed as much time as they want to eat in the chow hall. It is pathetic. -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 2:31pm
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Thought I'd step in on this one.
Snake, couldn't you attribute that to being at Ft LW? It IS considered the easiest Army basic, and it's also co-ed which could help that easiness. II hear Bragg is still pretty tough when doing infantry OSUT. Apparently not Marine tough, but still the toughest for the army. -------------
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Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 3:07pm
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Why should where you are at dictate how hard your boot is? Whether you go to boot in Bragg or FLW, combat is combat death is death killing is always killing. The enemy doesn't care where you went to bootcamp and isn't going to take it easy on you because you didn't recieve the best training. Mental Picture: Soldier: "I went to basic at Ft. Leonard Wood, so please take it easy on me, none of that hand to hand stuff, and nothing that is really stressful, ok? Just kinda shoot about 30ft over my head every few minutes." Hadji: "ok, no problem buddy." -------------
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 3:13pm
| Even the best training does not prepare you for combat. |
Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 3:44pm
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True, but as the old saying goes: "The more sweat on the training ground, the less blood on hte battle ground." -------------
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 3:54pm
| my bad on stress cards, must have been a rumor floating around the Corps. which is why i said they did. i am pretty sure they did implement them at one time. if not. i stand corrected. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 3:58pm
| They did for a very brief time in 1992, I got to see the end product coming out of San Diego and Parris Island. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 4:46pm
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You guys should both read Tolga's link... ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 4:58pm
| I did. It was a small program that was used. It started, briefly, in 1992. I don't know how many series/platoons this was "experimented" with. I watched these newbies/noobs come into schools battalion and then sent to me for guard posting/duty. 3 of theses kids were from one such platoon. One was an absolute waste of a uniform and was an extreme discipline problem. This kid should have been weeded out by the DI's but some how got under the wire. I wrote him up twice, UA for guard formation/inspection and failure to obey a direct order. I don't know what had happened to him after I had him on my guard roster. I got out 2 months later. |
Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 5:41pm
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read it. i still say i may be somewhat right...
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 6:10pm
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Read closer. The Army didn't have the stress cards, the Navy (Marines) did. And they weren't really "blue" cards anyway. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 6:23pm
Read even closer it says that the Navy Tried them. 
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 6:30pm
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I read it as Navy as well. I am giving ceesman the benefit of the doubt when he says that Parris Island used them... :)
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 7:05pm
No argument there... thou in my Office Tower's Totem Pole of Evil Lawyers dont stack up as high as Investment Advisors. -------------
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 8:48pm
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oh I didnt miss the Navy part. I'm still hoping the Army had them at one time. Keeping my fingers crossed.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 17 March 2008 at 9:19pm
Not saying it is, I'm speaking from 3rd hand here with friends that went to different army basics. FLW and Jackson, the 2 co-ed, are supposedly the easiest, while Bragg is the hardest. Just like MCRD SD thinks it's harder then PI because they train only males, among other reasons(yes, I know they are segregated at PI). -------------
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Posted By: Kristofer
Date Posted: 18 March 2008 at 5:48am
| PI is the original. thus the best rah. if we glanced at a female we were dead. WM DI's and our DI's would kills us. we took some tests at the female squad bays. practical application trash. because they had space there. my god it was nice. like up scale nice compared to our squad bays. |
Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 18 March 2008 at 8:54am
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A buddy of mine told me they no longer do body hardeners and he went to PI this winter. Apparently it was 17* one night when he was on the crucible. I'd think you could do some serious nerve damage if you over did it. Another friend of mine spent time in just about all of the holding platoons before getting dropped and has some horror stories about a recruit needing his leg amputated because he suffered severe nerve damage from a leg sweep and his body stopped feeding the leg. Some Army bootcamps sound as tough as PI, although I've heard the co-ed ones described as "like summer camp". As far as the females on PI are concerned you probably wouldn't want to look at most of them anyways. They have BCG's, don't shave their legs and smell almost as bad as the males. Some of them are 6'5" and resemble gorillas. 4th BN is nice, I worked with the S4 keeping it that way on team week. The sand pits didn't even look disturbed. The only time I saw females get pitted was at the rifle range, interestingly the majority of them did not qualify with their rifle the first time. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 18 March 2008 at 9:46am
| Thank you for the benefit of the doubt , Rambino. I have never even given the whole stress card thing a second thought until this thread. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 18 March 2008 at 12:24pm
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AF tried them for about a year in the early 90's as well. We had the worst troops coming in during that time.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 18 March 2008 at 12:35pm
| yep, during that time after the gulf war the military got rid of a lot of it's senior staff NCO's and officers, gave them nice separation packages and early retirements. The worst of the worst was getting into all branches of the armed services and the worst of the worst were promoted. one of my good friends went to the drill field in San Diego every letter I got from him was complaints about his recruits and how bad they were. |
Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 18 March 2008 at 3:06pm
Not everyone in the Navy/Army/Marines does the same job, and everyone has different experiences. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's generalizations about any of the Armed Forces. Good luck in the Marines. |
Posted By: dubs2011
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 3:54pm
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I'm joing USMC infantry when im 17 want to be in force recon
usmc the few the proud the badass, you mess with the best you die like the rest
you have to admit army is weak |
Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:46pm
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Why the hell did you drag up a 3 month old post and then comment on things you have no idea about? -------------
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:52pm
Tell that to a PJ left to save your ass when you get stranded in hostile territory. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |