Homeschooling...
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Topic: Homeschooling...
Posted By: choopie911
Subject: Homeschooling...
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 3:32am
We were saying in chat the other day that homeschooling makes you retarded, and oh boy is it true:
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Posted By: Monk
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 3:43am
I have to disagree. I know several homeschool kids. Some are increadibly smart and others no better than a regular school kid.
The difference is when they mix religion and the schooling. Its kind of sick what these people are teaching the kids.
But to say homeschooling makes kids retarded is just plain false. Its the creepy religious nuts that think they are smarter than science and try to keep their kids under their control.
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 3:48am
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Homeschooling makes kids socially retarded. I swear, I have not met a single homeschooler who knows how to talk to anyone but their mom.
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Posted By: bishopisback
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 3:52am
*sigh*
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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 3:53am
BARREL BREAK wrote:
Homeschooling makes kids socially retarded. I swear, I have not met a single homeschooler who knows how to talk to anyone but their mom. |
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Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:35am
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lol reminds me of the movie "Jesus Camp."
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:24am
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:30am
I have mixed feelings about homeschooling. I've met some kids who are really bright and socially adept. On the contrary, I've met an entire family of home school kids and they all seem to be slower. I do have problems when religion is incorporated, but there is nothing I can do, so why rant?
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Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:53am
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lol reminds me of the movie "Jesus Camp." |
That movie is freaking rediculous.
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:02am
My thoughts on home schooling from personal experiance.
Last school year (06-07), I was most most would consider a stoner. I spent most of my time looking to get high or getting high. Because of this I really didn't care about school much so I got to the point where I just stopped going to class for the most part. I'd go to a class or two and thats about it daily. As a result, My grades went down. It took overdosing and having straight F's to realize I was really **edited**ing up.
So I signed out of my traditional school and enrolled in a state sponsored virtual school. At this point my GPA was a 1 something. Not very good. If I wanted to bring my GPA up and have any thoughts on a future, I had to re-take most of my classes. So thats what I did. For the last year I have been making all A's with the exception of Algebra which I had a B. Mainly because I'm terrible with numbers. My GPA is now a 3.5 and I am certainly glad I left traditional school when I did.
Socially, doing this is a pain in the ass. Why? You spend most of your day in front of a computer. I work on school from 7am to 4pm (taking 8 classes and one foreign language).
I start my Senior year at my traditional school in August.
As for the video: I was raised in the typical Christian house. Believe in God, celebrate the major holidays, go to Church a couple times a year, you get the point.
The idea that people lived to be 800-1,000 years old is just plain silly. People suggesting that the T-Rex was a herbivore until Eve ate fruit is also quite silly. I have no problem with people raising their children in a Religious environment. But when it comes to the point of which you see in video's such as this and Jesus Camp, its gone to far.
Blessing a cardboard George W. Bush is damn silly. Its these small groups of radicals that make average Christians look like idiots.
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:29am
I was home schooled for a short time (1 year in 6th grade). I would get bored in school and stop going. my mom set it up so I could still go in for gym, tech, and lunch so I could still have the social interaction but I was at home 1 on 1 where I could learn at my own pace.
from medical problems my sis got screwed over by the public school and did a mail order school (graduated a year early and she worked a full time job while she was taking hs classes)
IMO there is a lot more potential for home schooling. but there is the danger of becoming socially isolated and if the parent/teacher has very strong personal views about the material the student can get a warped view/idea about it.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:50am
Theres a hot girl at my school who was always home schooled up until this year.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:57am
That video made me cry.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 10:43am
Personally, I don't see any reason to have homeschooling.
I doubt that in the majority of situations, the kids get the same quality of education as as public school.
For those against homeschools teaching religion: how do you feel about private catholic schools?
Also, there certainly was an anti-religion bias in that video.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 10:59am
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carl_the_sniper wrote:
Personally, I don't see any reason to have homeschooling.
I doubt that in the majority of situations, the kids get the same quality of education as as public school.
For those against homeschools teaching religion: how do you feel about private catholic schools?
Also, there certainly was an anti-religion bias in that video. |
Not so much anti-religion bias as anti-stupidity bias.
As to Catholic schools - I am torn. The religious indoctrination bugs me, but at least I have a sense that everything else there is pretty good quality. But I would never send my kids to Catholic school.
For home ed in general, I can imagine a few legitimate reasons, mostly relating to finances and convenience. But mostly I think it is a mix of religious nuttiness and personal arrogance.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 11:13am
Susan Storm wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Personally, I don't see any reason to have homeschooling. I doubt that in the majority of situations, the kids get the same quality of education as as public school. For those against homeschools teaching religion: how do you feel about private catholic schools? Also, there certainly was an anti-religion bias in that video. |
Not so much anti-religion bias as anti-stupidity bias.
As to Catholic schools - I am torn. The religious indoctrination bugs me, but at least I have a sense that everything else there is pretty good quality. But I would never send my kids to Catholic school.
For home ed in general, I can imagine a few legitimate reasons, mostly relating to finances and convenience. But mostly I think it is a mix of religious nuttiness and personal arrogance. |
They took a pretty offensive angle to it.
Will colleges/universities care if someone has been homeschooled?
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 11:22am
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carl_the_sniper wrote:
Will colleges/universities care if someone has been homeschooled? |
I don't see how they can not care.
More importantly, however, reality will care.
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 11:23am
I did alright...
Aside from the whole, girl thing.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 11:25am
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Stealth: Why were you homeschooled?
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 11:59am
I knew one kid who was home schooled until high school. he lived right down the block from me, and we were great friends... until high school.
He instantly became a dick and was too good to talk to me.
home schooling is fine, any religious extreme home schooling is bad news.
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Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 1:24pm
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Stealth: Why were you homeschooled? |
My dad just wanted it that way... All my life.
Odd thing was, my mother was a Biology High school teacher.
She got hell for that all the time.
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Posted By: Schlockmerc
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 1:41pm
I was homeschooled for 4 years and it DID make me socially retarded. Thankfully, beer, porn and football brought me out of that state when I re-entered normal school.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 1:51pm
Biblically Correct....
I would hate to be home schooled.
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Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 2:25pm
It's unbelievable how stubborn and thickheaded some people are.
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 3:17pm
FYI catholic schooling is the same except one extra class dealing with religion. We don't learn math by multiplying sins or something
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 4:23pm
Susan Storm wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
Personally, I don't see any reason to have homeschooling.
I doubt that in the majority of situations, the kids get the same quality of education as as public school.
For those against homeschools teaching religion: how do you feel about private catholic schools?
Also, there certainly was an anti-religion bias in that video. |
Not so much anti-religion bias as anti-stupidity bias.
As to Catholic schools - I am torn. The religious indoctrination bugs me, but at least I have a sense that everything else there is pretty good quality. But I would never send my kids to Catholic school.
For home ed in general, I can imagine a few legitimate reasons, mostly relating to finances and convenience. But mostly I think it is a mix of religious nuttiness and personal arrogance. |
The difference is, in Catholic schools, they actually teach both sides. I've always gone to Catholic schools, and I've gotten an excellent education (and a huge hole in the wallet). The stuff my public school classmates were learning in freshmen and sophomore class, I had already learned in middle school.
As far as religion goes, Catholic schools are pretty good. Grade school was all about God loves me, learning the sacraments, and learning some Biblical stories (Moses, Abraham, the liberation of the Israelites, etc.). In high school, we learned a little about Jesuit history, and everything else is pretty much about morality, in which we just had debates and such. Nothing was really forced on us, just suggested (except for the obligatory class masses we attended every couple months). However, we definitely weren't taught to be creationists. I've always been taught about evolution, and about how Biblical stories are just stories, meant to prove a point or teach a lesson.
The whole creationist thing they talk about in the video is crazy. I don't see how anyone could believe that, yet alone even teach it to their children.
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 4:24pm
IMO, kids need to get away from their parents and interact with others in an educational setting. I would think that homeschooling from an early age would hinder developing skills in group work, etc.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:23pm
Da Hui wrote:
I'd go to a class or two and thats about it daily. As a result, My grades went down. It took overdosing and having straight F's to realize I was really messing up. |
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:26pm
He overdosed on weed.
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Posted By: Hysteria
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:26pm
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I know two sisters that were home schooled and they just happen to be very religious. If anything goes wrong in the slightest at work, they get terribly upset, almost to the point of tears.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:30pm
Hysteria wrote:
I know two sisters that were home schooled and they just happen to be very religious. If anything goes wrong in the slightest at work, they get terribly upset, almost to the point of tears.
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Yeah, in my elementary school there were two kids who were homeschooled for grades k-6, then they showed up for grade 7 and were some of the weirdest kids I've ever met. And yeah, they couldn't handle it, they lasted two days and went back to homeschooling. They were just too socially awkward, etc.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:38pm
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¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤ wrote:
The difference is, in Catholic schools, they actually teach both sides. |
I didn't realize education had sides...?
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Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:38pm
all homeschool kids I know......are really really dumb.
But they dont really do anything im sure.
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:44pm
Most of the home schooled kids I know do end up socially retarded and quite often behind academically from the rest of the class. That said, there are a few who stand out academically and are often socially adept. It seems that the two are tied, but how, I don't know.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:52pm
Home schooled kids rock at spelling bees, though.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 5:56pm
i don't know any homeschooled kids. that must mean they are socially retarded.
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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:02pm
My parents own a campground that we reside on, and you'd be amazed at the 13-18 year old kids that live on their 55-70 year old parents million dollar tour buses and such. The majority of the kids like this have never had a friend in real life, and one actually did'nt know what a boner was for, kid being 17. But some of those girls like that are hot, and hardcore ho's. No comment on that.
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:24pm
Susan Storm wrote:
carl_the_sniper wrote:
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colleges/universities care if someone has been homeschooled? |
I don't see how they can not care.
More importantly, however, reality will care. |
Wrong.
I applied to college as a homeschooled student. So far I've had an
overwhelmingly positive response from the schools I've heard back from.
It's not the homeschooling in and of itself that colleges are put off by, it's
the fact that the vast majority of homeschooled students haven't actually
had the preparation needed to attend a decent college or university -
both socially and academically.
Though, I was really only technically "homeschooled" for like, two
years(ish).... Sort of hard to explain, my situation was a little weird.
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Posted By: Susan Storm
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:33pm
Didn't mean to imply that colleges would necessarily hold homeschooling against you - but simply that they will care. It will be noted, and will probably result in extra scrutiny. If you survive the scrutiny the extra attention may count in your favor, but homeschooling pretty much guarantees that you won't just be in the pile with the other applicants.
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Posted By: Klaus
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:37pm
I have homeschooled cousins Smart, friendly, very social (home school families combine families to work in groups sometimes) Oldest son is an engineer who bangs models. Oldest daughter is amazing concert violinist. All are very talented in many broad aspects.
Other hand. I also know a homeschool family who scare the living life out of me. They all come to the big picture window and stare when you come to their place. They are extremely socially awkward. It's like a cult.
I think it all depends on the teacher and the environment. I'm for tolerance.
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Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:11pm
A friend of mine in school was home schooled up until a few years ago. He's lacking socially, to say the least. He's also fairly religious, although since moving to a public school he's slowly becoming more 'normal', if you will.
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:24pm
Until recently I had no idea how many kids there are in my town that are/were home schooled. I'd have to say that the majority of them are the creepy religious kind and socially retarded. I only know of two who went into public school from homeschool. One immediately discovered weed and 18 year old boys in 8th grade (got knocked up right after highschool, bf bailed, then she gained 100lbs)the other hanged himself after a semester of highschool.
Some of them are actually quite well-adjusted. The sister of the girl I mentioned earlier is a fiddle prodigy, goes to a decent state college at 17, and is well socialized. It all depends on what they do for social interaction while they're being homeschooled. Many of them are substantially more booksmart than kids their age, so I can see how they'd have a hard time relating to their peers and either gravitate towards and older crowd or avoid all human contact and go insane.
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Posted By: warman
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 2:11am
.357 Magnum wrote:
Theres a hot girl at my school who was always home schooled up until this year.
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Bet she gets pregnent before summer
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