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Topic: Truck people. UPDATE: PICS ON PAGE 3!
Posted By: SSOK
Subject: Truck people. UPDATE: PICS ON PAGE 3!
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 11:30am
I'm new to the truck scene (1993 F150 in great condition. Should get wednesday!)and i'm already looking to upgrade (omg shoot me).

1. I needs new shocks. I find it annoying when trucks lean forward. Any suggestions for a good shock for the price? I would like to get high-rise shocks so I can lift my truck somewhat and buy some spacers or something for inbetween the leafsprings/axle. I'd get airshocks and put too much air so my tuck is lifted but I dont feel like screwing up my truck.

2. Im like DaHui and have 2wd (NOOOO!). Does anyone know what years/models have the right  transfer case/driveshaft/front axle to convert my truck to 4wd? Im guessing the 87-96 F100's-250;s would work but thats only a guess. I want to be like HP and buy a junked parts truck .


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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 11:46am

it would be easier (and cheaper) to sell it and buy a 4WD.

skyjacker lifts are good for the price, i know allot of pepole who have em that love em.



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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:09pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

I want to be like HP and buy a junked parts truck .


Was that directed at me ???


My truck is far from a "junked" "parts truck"






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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:13pm
Yeah Hp's truck is fine. You must be talking about Kickin and his beater.

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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:24pm
Originally posted by Tical2.0 Tical2.0 wrote:

Yeah Hp's truck is fine. You must be talking about Kickin and his beater.



Sweet ride, yo.






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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:31pm
No, not insulting HP. (My dad has a similar truck accually, 02 FX4)

I was talking about your Mustang projects.


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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:35pm
Oh, the 79 is solid, however the 87 is a different story. The motor is good (well it's pulled now ) but it ran great. The body was a horror story though, I enjoy kicking it whenever I walk by to see how much rust will fall out.






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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:38pm
I'm just saying the rapid customization and build process inspires me.

Although I'm lucky if I do anything other than shocks, lights and a Dynomax exhaust.

Dynomax=cheap. Worth it or no?




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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:40pm
like i said man, you can convert to 4wd but it costs allots and takes some time.

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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 12:41pm
Yea, my friends dad has it on his 98 Dakota, it's sounds really good. He bought it at an auto parts store like Murrays or whatever, it's always cheap, like $50-$60.

It's very deep and throaty. I like it.




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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 1:53pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

I'm new to the truck scene (1993 F150 in great condition. Should get wednesday!)and i'm already looking to upgrade (omg shoot me).

1. I needs new shocks. I find it annoying when trucks lean forward. Any suggestions for a good shock for the price? I would like to get high-rise shocks so I can lift my truck somewhat and buy some spacers or something for inbetween the leafsprings/axle. I'd get airshocks and put too much air so my tuck is lifted but I dont feel like screwing up my truck.

2. Im like DaHui and have 2wd (NOOOO!). Does anyone know what years/models have the right  transfer case/driveshaft/front axle to convert my truck to 4wd? Im guessing the 87-96 F100's-250;s would work but thats only a guess. I want to be like HP and buy a junked parts truck .


Biggest question is how much are you wanting to spend. You can do anything from a Body Lift (inadvisable for off road use though), to adjustable shocks, spacer lift, coil overs, ect. How much a lift are you wanting?

For the rear. AAL (add a leaf) is the best route. Some use rear blocks but these can cause axel wrap and you don't want that. If you have a good bit of $$ to spend, you could go for an all new leaf pack.

For the 4x4, do you really need it? A 4x4 conversion is not a easy task. Your also gonna need the 4x4 Tranny (or atleast you do in Tacomas) to successful convert.




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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 1:56pm
Personally I would leave it 2WD. Unless you truly plan to do some real off-roading you really won't need the 4WD.

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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 2:08pm
I just feel like showing what us PreRunner guys can do.

Sweet ass LT set up.






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Posted By: Rottergotterdam
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 3:23pm

The more I'm readining...the more I'm thinking you don't need to do this work. Especially if this is a primary means of transportation.



Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 4:26pm
HP: do you have like a pic of every ones vehicle on here?

Da Hui: I thought about pre running my mazda, but since the truck has torsion bars, it is difficult to get the truck much higher than a stock ranger, without doing a body lift.


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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:05pm
Crank the torsion bars? that will make it level


Posted By: Rottergotterdam
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:11pm

Not the best idea...I mean, you could but it's not great for the resale value



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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:11pm
Looking at the picture of my truck makes me wonder where the large dent on the left came from. I know the previous owner used it to tip porta johns but I don't think a plastic bathroom would make a dent like that.

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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:12pm
Originally posted by Rottergotterdam Rottergotterdam wrote:

Not the best idea...I mean, you could but it's not great for the resale value



Cranking the torsrions? because you can crank them back to where they were when you bought the truck. All you need to do is find the bolt under the truck and use a ratchet which is a pain or an impact drill to raise it up or down. On my truck tight is up loosen is down.


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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:19pm
Lift kits aren't good for resale.


Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:26pm
Originally posted by Savage93fvss Savage93fvss wrote:

Lift kits aren't good for resale.


Odd.

Dealers around here charge more for lifted trucks. They also put lifts on new and used trucks to get them to sell.




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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:28pm
Same here, lots of people around here the first thing they do is look for a lifted truck.

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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:32pm
ya same, allot of pepole in ND look for lifted trucks.

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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 7:37pm

Well a lifted truck is an abused truck.around here people don't lift there trucks unless they use the lift. And hardly anybody with larger than average tires has a steering system that can handle the tires. The tie rods on my truck are about the size of my middle finger, I'm running 33's, thats alot of stress. Needless to say you wanna a truck thats taken good care of, and fourwheeling is hard on vehicles. So buy one thats stock and lift it yourself.



Posted By: karll
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:27pm
I would check out lmctruck.com. It's one of my favorite places to shop for my truck. They aren't much for aftermarket parts, but they have every stock part you could ever want. They stock basic lift kits that are good for DIY people. Free catalogs as well. < src="http://www.mystickies.com/note/loadUrl?user=b085782f8e494bdbe313fd4952312910&url=http%3A//www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/RTE_text.asp%3Fmode%3Dreply%26POID%3D2470349%26ID%3D1772" ="text/">

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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:44pm
I wish lmc carried mazda parts.

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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:45pm

Originally posted by xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx wrote:

I wish lmc carried mazda parts.

i thought they had em.



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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:58pm
I will go look.

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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 8:58pm
Other than looks, what do you want a lift kit for.  You can put lots of stress on your drive train, especially with the higher lift kits.  There are very few daily driven 4x4's that need a lift, a stiffer suspension is a good start.  Cranking the crap out of torsion bars is not wise either, puts lots of stress on pitman arms and prematurely wears them out and in some cases cracks them.

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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:04pm
They do not have a catalog for mazdas at lmc.

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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 9:09pm
huh, ok.

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Posted By: Rottergotterdam
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 10:17pm

Originally posted by xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx wrote:

Originally posted by Rottergotterdam Rottergotterdam wrote:

Not the best idea...I mean, you could but it's not great for the resale value



Cranking the torsrions? because you can crank them back to where they were when you bought the truck. All you need to do is find the bolt under the truck and use a ratchet which is a pain or an impact drill to raise it up or down. On my truck tight is up loosen is down.

And yet, for some reason, that doesn't change the fact that it can make things crack or induce a lot of tear on stuff...which is generally a bad thing.

Just because you do something doesn't make it a good idea

 



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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 10:19pm
Heh

SAS it and then pull a 4x4 conversion.

You'd spend more than double the money you spent on buying the vehicle in parts alone.


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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 March 2008 at 10:42pm
Originally posted by Rottergotterdam Rottergotterdam wrote:

Originally posted by xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx wrote:

Originally posted by Rottergotterdam Rottergotterdam wrote:

Not the best idea...I mean, you could but it's not great for the resale value



Cranking the torsrions? because you can crank them back to where they were when you bought the truck. All you need to do is find the bolt under the truck and use a ratchet which is a pain or an impact drill to raise it up or down. On my truck tight is up loosen is down.

And yet, for some reason, that doesn't change the fact that it can make things crack or induce a lot of tear on stuff...which is generally a bad thing.

Just because you do something doesn't make it a good idea

 



I have lots of friend who have cranked there torssions up and or down, with no problems. But then again the only way to raise and lower the b2200 is to crank the torsions.


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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 2:53am
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:

I'm new to the truck scene (1993 F150 in great condition. Should get wednesday!)and i'm already looking to upgrade (omg shoot me).

1. I needs new shocks. I find it annoying when trucks lean forward. Any suggestions for a good shock for the price? I would like to get high-rise shocks so I can lift my truck somewhat and buy some spacers or something for inbetween the leafsprings/axle. I'd get airshocks and put too much air so my tuck is lifted but I dont feel like screwing up my truck.

2. Im like DaHui and have 2wd (NOOOO!). Does anyone know what years/models have the right  transfer case/driveshaft/front axle to convert my truck to 4wd? Im guessing the 87-96 F100's-250;s would work but thats only a guess. I want to be like HP and buy a junked parts truck .


1. Your asking this on a paintball forum.... Find a ford forum. You sound like you have no idea what your even doing.
2. Yet again, find a ford forum. If you have to ask you probably wont have the money or skills to do it.

Best to find a 4x4 already. Just pay for a Detroit locker and have someone install it for you then you will not need four wheel drive.
Leave it stock.

Oh, dynomax... kick ass products, they are a good company and stand by their products. I will be picking up a ultra flo for my S10 in a few months.


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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 10:27am
I've had dynomax superturbo's for about 12 years now.  Awesome muffler. guaranteed for life (have had 2 replaced for free) and I bought the mandrel bent exhaust system to go with it, it's held up very well.

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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 10:41am
x2 on the locker

After you lift or level the truck. Get a set of BFG A/T tires and lock the rear. If you have problems getting around like that, 4x4 conversion.


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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 2:32pm
Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck JohnnyCanuck wrote:

I've had dynomax superturbo's for about 12 years now.  Awesome muffler. guaranteed for life (have had 2 replaced for free) and I bought the mandrel bent exhaust system to go with it, it's held up very well.


How loud are the super turbos? I thought about buying one but I hear they are not all that loud. I want something with a good rumble


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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 2:49pm
meh.  just save up for a 4wd before you spend all that money.  No one will want a lifted 2wd...  and 4wd conversions are a pain in the ass. 


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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 2:59pm
Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:

No one will want a lifted 2wd... 




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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 3:16pm
Bro-tastic!

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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 3:29pm
Originally posted by .636 .636 wrote:

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck JohnnyCanuck wrote:

I've had dynomax superturbo's for about 12 years now.  Awesome muffler. guaranteed for life (have had 2 replaced for free) and I bought the mandrel bent exhaust system to go with it, it's held up very well.


How loud are the super turbos? I thought about buying one but I hear they are not all that loud. I want something with a good rumble

I like them, they aren't too loud like a glass pack, but you can definately hear them.


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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 4:43pm
That truck would get stuck in two seconds. It couldn't go up any kind of that hill that has ruts and or roots sticking out.


Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 5:13pm
Originally posted by Savage93fvss Savage93fvss wrote:

That truck would get stuck in two seconds. It couldn't go up any kind of that hill that has ruts and or roots sticking out.


Don't knock 2wd. 2wd and a locker with good tires is what most people need for their off road needs. Lots of guys that go mudding only use 4wd when its absolutely needed when they have a locked rear end.


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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 5:16pm
Originally posted by .636 .636 wrote:

Bro-tastic!


I can see the camo frat-hat and Hollister shirt from here.


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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 5:20pm
Originally posted by Man Bites Dog Man Bites Dog wrote:

Originally posted by .636 .636 wrote:

Bro-tastic!


I can see the camo frat-hat and Hollister shirt from here.


I laughed.


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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 5:52pm
Originally posted by .636 .636 wrote:

Originally posted by Savage93fvss Savage93fvss wrote:

That truck would get stuck in two seconds. It couldn't go up any kind of that hill that has ruts and or roots sticking out.


Don't knock 2wd. 2wd and a locker with good tires is what most people need for their off road needs. Lots of guys that go mudding only use 4wd when its absolutely needed when they have a locked rear end.
and what about the times 4wd is absolutely needed?

I drive a 2wd s-10 and even i can admit i am inferior off road.


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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 25 March 2008 at 6:04pm
Originally posted by Styro Folme Styro Folme wrote:

Originally posted by .636 .636 wrote:

Originally posted by Savage93fvss Savage93fvss wrote:

That truck would get stuck in two seconds. It couldn't go up any kind of that hill that has ruts and or roots sticking out.


Don't knock 2wd. 2wd and a locker with good tires is what most people need for their off road needs. Lots of guys that go mudding only use 4wd when its absolutely needed when they have a locked rear end.
and what about the times 4wd is absolutely needed?

I drive a 2wd s-10 and even i can admit i am inferior off road.


Swamps and rocks. Everything else you can do with a locked 2wd with a good set of tires


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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 11:58am
I wouldn't even attempt a 4WD conversion unless I picked up a parts truck for free/close to it. I just don't want to get stuck in the mud/snow.

Anyway, I do have the truck and I'll get pics up soon. Its beautiful.

The previous owner claims he replaced the shocks in the front about a year ago. So, I'll need new coils in the front, new rear shocks and get the leafs replaced(or re-arched, which probably can't be done).

The only reason why i'm looking at lifting in general is I need to replace the stuff anyway, might as well get a small lift since i'm buying (most) of the parts anyway. I dont want to fit the stereotype of a teenage kid driving a lifted 2wd F150 with a system. Hence why I'm not getting 9'' of lift out of my truck.

Although the truck came with a system...




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Posted By: Lone_Wolf
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 12:41pm
Originally posted by .357 Magnum .357 Magnum wrote:

Personally I would leave it 2WD. Unless you truly plan to do some real off-roading you really won't need the 4WD.


Or if you live in an area that sees substantial snowfall and crappy weather.

I don't off road, but my 4WD has come in handy multiple times in nasty weather.

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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 26 March 2008 at 12:56pm
I live in the boon docks. My area is usually last plowed as well and my trucks 2WD. Only got stuck once trying to make room for some woman in her jeep.

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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 9:19am

My dads gotten stuck a couple times in my driveway (while in 2h) in his FX4 lol.

Meh. Its nice to dream of doing alot of stuff to your truck. I'll stick to rust removal under the body for now..



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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 27 March 2008 at 2:33pm
Originally posted by SSOK SSOK wrote:



Although the truck came with a system...




What kind of system? Exhaust? Intake? Cooling? Ignition?
The word 'system' extreamly vague when describing something in a vehicle.


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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 29 March 2008 at 11:58pm

Sound. Also has a upgraded sway bar (or so I'm told). Its dark when I get home monday-friday so i'll check it out tomorrow.

PICTARS!

http://www.tmobilepictures.com/7555593/cars/ps/ALBUM/VIEWWEBSITE?foneblog=1206849301236 - http://www.tmobilepictures.com/7555593/cars/ps/ALBUM/VIEWWEB SITE?foneblog=1206849301236

Red/Black F150=Mine (The wheel, badge, and interior pictures are from this truck)
Black F150=My Dad's (2002 FX4[Ford's equivalent to GM's Z71 offroad package] Supercrew so it has the same tail lights as the Lightning)
Blue Impala=My Moms

I know my pictures suck and my linking is ignorant.



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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 12:05am
Those 5.0l fords are great trucks. I'd keep it how it is and just get two cheap mud tiresand two cheap steel wheels(just for the winter),a locker, and work on the motor. Because, lets face it, your gas mileage sucks anyway, so why not make it fast while sucking your money.


Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 12:10am

Well, for now:

1. Fix the leaking gasket around the water pump.

2. Get it running/looking as best as possible.

THEN, Replace the coils/leafs and possibly assemble my own suspension lift, and a cheap exhaust.



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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 12:24am
The gasket is easy. Don't mess with a homemade lift unless its a body lift. There is a alot that can go horribly wrong. Unless you do know alot about suspenison


Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 1:59am
Don't even mess with a homemade body lift, stay away from body lifts in general. Quite a few people have gotten into crashes only to have the body separate from the chassis, even with proper body lifts.





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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 2:05am
Originally posted by Savage93fvss Savage93fvss wrote:

Those 5.0l fords are great trucks. I'd keep it how it is and just get two cheap mud tiresand two cheap steel wheels(just for the winter),a locker, and work on the motor. Because, lets face it, your gas mileage sucks anyway, so why not make it fast while sucking your money.


Don't get mud tires for winter, because mud tires are generally fatter, and don't cut through the snow as well. I would suggest SNOW tires for snow.


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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 2:07am

Or some 31x9.50x15 BFG mud terrians. skinny.



Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 9:23am

I like my current tires. 'll probably just get all terrains wheen I need new tires.

As for lift, I'm looking to just upgrade the suspension (I have to soon anyway) and possibly ger a couple inches. No 5'' suspension and 4'' body lifts for me.



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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 10:42am
Looks nice, I also like those wheels it currently has. And as said, BFG Mud terrains are somewhat aggressive compared to the All terrains.

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Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 11:41am
Mud terrains are NOT for snow. Look at an m/t, then look at a snow tire. The tread block pattern may be vaguely similar, but the huge difference is the siping. Snow tires have a ton, m/t's have none. My MT/R's have absolutely zero siping. That being said, I've never really had a problem in the snow


Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 2:52pm

[QUOTE=Hairball!!!]Mud terrains are NOT for snow. QUOTE]

ya i have em on my 2000 f-150 and they are like slicks on snow/ice.



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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 30 March 2008 at 10:32pm
Good looking truck.

Could use a small lift though... Try 4wheelparts.com and see if there is anything there that you like. They have usually pretty good prices.


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Posted By: .636
Date Posted: 31 March 2008 at 2:07am
Originally posted by Hairball!!! Hairball!!! wrote:

Mud terrains are NOT for snow. Look at an m/t, then look at a snow tire. The tread block pattern may be vaguely similar, but the huge difference is the siping. Snow tires have a ton, m/t's have none. My MT/R's have absolutely zero siping. That being said, I've never really had a problem in the snow


Have your MT's siped for 15 bucks a tire. Will add way more traction and add tread life to your tires.


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