Another Controversial Law: Curfew
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Topic: Another Controversial Law: Curfew
Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Subject: Another Controversial Law: Curfew
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:23pm
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Anyone else have curfew laws in your area? Honestly, I don't think it does a thing besides cause problems. Story I've been riding passenger in a car with friends (18+, I was under 18) when we made a 2 AM Taco-Bell run and ended up getting pulled over (cop saw a car full of college students and decided to pull us over). The cop gave me crap for being out past curfew (12 or 12:30 AM on weekends, and I think maybe 11:00 on weekdays?) and threatened to take me to jail. /story Anyways, I guess the law is to prevent vandalism and crime possibly, and maybe even drunk driving by encouraging people at a party to spend the night instead of risking getting caught out past curfew. Either way, I think if some one is motivated enough to vandalize or commit a crime, a curfew isn't going to stop them. And if some one is driving drunk, I doubt the curfew would even cross their mind. Only thing the law prevents me from doing is making late-night T-Bell runs. ------------- 
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:26pm
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First year you have your license curfew is 11. Thankfully my year is up so I have no curfew anymore :)
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:27pm
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There supposedly a curfew around here of 11pm weeknights and 1am weekends. I have been "questioned" by cops because I was out much later than that several times before. Cops around here won't really do anything except tell you to go home. ------------- 
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:29pm
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The only time I've had any sort of legal curfew was when I got my drivers license which meant you cant be driving past midnight. You can be out, etc, just not driving.
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:31pm
Wow, I'm glad I made this thread and you replied. Your post motivated me to look into the law further, and I think the curfew here only applies to juveniles and minors (defined as anyone under age 17). Maybe I am out of the clear... I had assumed the curfew applied to anyone under 18. -------------
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pb125 wrote:Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:31pm
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When I lived in Michigan, the curfew was if you're 16 or younger, you have to be off the streets at midnight. Thing is, on Fridays after a football game, everyone would just hang out around town.
One Friday, a hundred or so of us went to a local Applebees. Someone started being an idiot and the cops were called. They walked around checking everyones ID, and half of the people there were under 16. They rounded up all the kids and put them in squadcars and called the parents. Many parents came out and complained. No kid was actually charged, they were all let go. I really don't see what the problem is, law makes perfect sense, and like many laws, gives cops a reason to pull a suspicious person over with legal reason, just like fuzzy dice on the rear-view mirror. But that's just my blind following speaking. ------------- 
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:34pm
Hm, apparently thats not how it works here.
Edit: Crap, I also just remembered that there is a law in MO stating that anyone without a full license (given at age 18) cannot drive during certain hours (something like between 1 and 5 AM). -------------
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Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:41pm
That's the same as mine. I've never heard of a curfew where you just simply can't be out. Seems ridiculous. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:46pm
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I think there's a curfew here but I've never heard about it being enforced.
Honestly, what a waste of time and money to enforce. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:52pm
No kidding....only you...
Not to mention how it just makes people think the cops are annoying even more, and wastes time for the kids too. |
Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 10:57pm
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I know there is a license curfew around here (I believe 12-5 or 1-5 (unless coming home from work)) but no off the street curfew. Not there is much to do around here anyways.
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 11:01pm
Might be a waste of time for the minors, but not really a waste of time or money for the cops. They're out on the streets patrolling anyways, doing nothing until a call comes in. And if a call were to come in while questioning a minor, I'm sure the cop would just tell them to go home, and then they would head over to the call. -------------
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 11:01pm
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Meh. If a law says that kids that probably shouldn't be out anyway need to be off the streets by a certain time, I'm all for it.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 April 2008 at 11:11pm
What about a kid who has done nothing wrong except being out late at night? |
Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:10am
You are a frightening person. ------------- 
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:27am
And you're ignorant. Stick to what you're good at: news. People are allowed to have opinions that contradict yours. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:29am
Cops shouldn't be able to pull you over unless they see you doing something illegal (or have a warrant). The kind of thinking you just displayed, when employed by LEO's, infringes on people's liberties and privacy. ------------- 
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:31am
1) ??? 2) Need I remind you I write opinions for a living currently. 3) That does not mean those opinions are not frightening. -------------
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:32am
I am going to beat him to the punch by pointing out he is going to say "But [insert stupid thing like fuzzy dice or wearing baggy pants] IS illegal." It is scary, I know. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:51am
The biggest thing that scares me is that he thinks it's alright to pull someone over for no wrong-doing, just because they "look suspicious." What exactly is suspicious behavior while driving? -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:54am
As MBD stated, I would have said "It is illegal", but in his rush to try and act like a hard ass, he forgot the next part of my argument: Many cops use these obscure and mundane laws to make contact with the public and make sure everything is on the up and up, and use the guise of "public safety" to pass it. Example: California vehicle code 23120. No person shall operate a motor vehicle while wearing glasses having a temple width of one-half inch or more if any part of such temple extends below the horizontal center of the lens so as to interfere with lateral vision. So disagree with me all you want, but I guess it only makes sense to people with a LE mindset. Bunkered: Leaving the area of a known drug house, driving around a neighborhood a few times (Terry-esque), slowing down for no apparent reason. -------------
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:57am
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You don't sound smart. Love, prodigy ------------- 
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Posted By: Man Bites Dog
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:58am
1) Call me crazy, but I am not a fan of police using bogus laws as a guise for anything. 2) I guess my arguments only make sense to people who are fans of good law enforcement. My bad. -------------
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Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 1:58am
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According to Tippmann Forum Bilaw 1590821097 no user is allowed to suck as much as Linus. Last time I checked, that's punishable by banning. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 2:06am
I think you pretty much summed up my points there, thanks.  -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 2:17am
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Then blame the legislature, not the police.
Police use the tools available to them to do their job. -------------
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 2:19am
What about it? I think my comment went completely over your head. I'm not saying the curfew law is right. I'm just saying that really it isn't a waste of time or money for the cops; they would still be out patrolling the streets, using gas and earning pay. Therefore, you cannot say that the curfew law is a waste of money. -------------
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Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 2:26am
If you don't see a good reason to pull someone over, isn't that a pretty good reason NOT to pull that person over? If you see no wrong-doing, at what point do you take it on yourself to declare someone "suspicious?" LEO's have no Constiutional right to search whoever they deem "suspicious." As a matter of fact, there are Constitutional protections set up specifically to prohibit this. Unfortunately, we live in a day and age where no one really cares if "some" of their rights get violated, and will allow them to be infringed upon without a peep. Your desire to pull over and inspect whomever you please is the precise reason why people despise LEOs. -------------
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 3:00am
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1-15: Curfew is 10pm-5am 16-17: Curfew is 12am-5am I have been charged for a curfew violation. 14 hours community service. But seeing I could of been charged with DUI, Possession, and Minor in Possession, I am not really complaining. ------------- 
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:00am
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NY states that your first year of driving you can't be out past 9. or something like that, unless you're working. It's been a long time since I was subject to such a ruling, so I don't remember exactly. But, I'm for something like that to be honest. Why? Because nighttime driving enhances the risks of the road. An inexperienced driver is much more likely to get themselves in trouble at night than they are in the daytime. I'm not saying 'throw em in jail' but having someone pulled over during their probationary period and getting a warning or even a citation, I don't believe it a horrible thing. Once you clear the probationary period, then a curfew is ridiculous. ------------- ? |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:13am
seriously? never knew that honestly...i was definitely out past then some nights though. but that would really make more sense for a younger crowd rather than someone who's 30 and just getting their lisence, no? especially if you're worried about vandalism. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:16am
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If I were young enough for it to matter I'd be upset by a curfew and violate it nightly as I went about my business as usual. Hell, I'd probably wear my work clothes when I was driving and claim to have come from, or be on my way to, work.
Being older I wouldn't mind having fewer young people out trolling about at night, but I wouldn't send cops after them. And if it's proven to improve safety then all the better. ------------- 
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:18am
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linus, i know what you're getting at. curfew in indiana used to be like 11 or something, until the court deemed it unconstitutional a few years back. ------------- 
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:29am
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Correction, If you're under 18 without a drivers ed course, you can't be out past 9pm.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:35am
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Curfew for drivers under 18=Cool. Don't mind laws preventing new drivers(majority of new drivers are under 18, even if older people get them) from being out when they are not as experience at night. Also kids that are like 16 or 17 are, for the most part, more irresponsible so I believe they are more likely to drive drunk. Curfew other than that(for any age)=Dumb It is the parent's job to keep kids in the house at night. I don't mind curfews on certain places. Like around here at midnight the close down the basketball courts, and not allowed in the playgrounds after 10. People around here also hang out in parking lots at night. The lights go out at like 1 and then cops come and make you leave. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: notom66866
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:52am
| About 45 min. east of me there is a small town called Huntington they have an 11:00 curfew for anyone under 18. It started because some retards started shooting up buisnesses and homes with paintball markers in he early morning. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:55am
Hence my agreement with the curfews and my opposition of a lower drinking age. ------------- ? |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 12:05pm
on long island by any chance? i can understand the curfew thing, my buddy just his lisence and god help him his parents bought him a car...and at 17 he's already taken his dads car out for joy rides at speeds similar to which i was pulled over and accused of doing. |
Posted By: Bunkered
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 12:33pm
I was just going to ask if he was from Tennessee. Huntingdon is the little town my grandfather's side of the family lives is. Huntington, Alabama is where several of my mom's sisters live. -------------
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 12:35pm
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Looking at his avatar, I'd say he was Canuckistani.
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 12:35pm
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Huntington, Michigan too...
But his thing says Canada, so I doubt any of our places are it. -------------
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Posted By: White o Light
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 4:10pm
Linus you are always the devil's RADvocate ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 4:20pm
Nope I know what you meant. But cops should easily be able to find better things to do than harass kids who are doing nothing wrong. It is a waste of taxpayer money and a waste of police time. (as well as everyone else's) There are other laws that they could be enforcing. |
Posted By: notom66866
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 6:09pm
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I just hope all those 17 year olds remember when its time for municipal elections. I remember hearing that alot of kids lost their jobs because they could not finish late. It was probobly just 3-4 kids too, I hope people found out who they were and threw them a beating. |
Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 6:40pm
Honestly, I don't see how not having the curfew law would save money. As I said before, the police would STILL be out there during the middle of the night, using up gas money and earning wages. Technically, they are saving money through the curfew law by being pulled over more often instead of driving, and therefore saving gas money. Plus, theres really no other laws to be enforcing at the odd hours; theres hardly anyone on the streets, and stopping for a few moments to enforce the curfew law isn't going to make a difference. I know this is such a small and stupid argument, but you're wrong.
The curfew law here states that there is an exception if you are coming home or leaving for work, a school event, or a religious event. -------------
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Posted By: NotDaveEllis
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 6:41pm
Most curfews have a clause that allows minors to be out if they are directly to or from work. |
Posted By: notom66866
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 8:01pm
| I don't believe this cerfew did as I distinctly remember that alot of kids say they lost their job. |
Posted By: benttwig33
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 10:37pm
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It is 11 o clock for anyone under 17 in my area
Never once in my life obeyed it, cops dont really care. ------------- Sig is WAY too big. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:09pm
The police could be handing out speeding tickets or something rather than harassing innocent kids. If too many of them have too little to do at night, than there are too many cops and cutbacks should be made to save money. (or transfers to areas that actually need it) You ae wrong, it is a waste of time and money. |
Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:16pm
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Why is there a curfew period? Reminds me of a police state...
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