A SOLUTION to A PRobLem (overheating)
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Topic: A SOLUTION to A PRobLem (overheating)
Posted By: jhatch007
Subject: A SOLUTION to A PRobLem (overheating)
Date Posted: 18 April 2008 at 5:56pm
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So. i hear a lot of talk about an auto propane marker... heat sinks... water cooling... or that it won't even happen. well ya know what... it kind of hit me when playing my ps3. ---if there is any solution that is a good idea to fix the overheating problem in an auto propane marker.... first of all... yes it can get hot fast... but auto is the way to go to get this type of fuel moving in the game. How about you take the gun... like normal... set it up auto... but *set it up with a standard souped up e-grip*... Attach an electronic monitoring thermometer to the combustion chamber and have that monitor the temperature. That way you can use the auto advantage on a propane gun in short quick bursts... let it cool down with a normal cold air heat sink... and keep playing... it wouldn't be that difficult... make it with a visual notification panel on the side to let you know when it gets a little hot for strategy in controlling your bursts. ANYWAYs. i just thought i'd just throw this out there because i am sick of trying to look on the internet for an auto propane gun and finding out there are too many problems... Ok... fine.. build it this way...keep your durability just with these few adjustments. I wouldn't care that my after a few quick shots my gun got warm and i had to hunker down in a ditch for 4 seconds till it cooled... and i'm sure there are a hundred people on here to agree. that would actually throw a whole lot of gaming strategy and a unique twist into paintball... by no means would it go for speedball but i'm more of a woodsball type of guy anyways... so if you have any troubles thinking of ideas... go play video games. thanks for your time.... -CANOLA |
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 18 April 2008 at 7:28pm
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Its not that simple. There are many other factors to consider, such as lawsuits for when some moron touches the heatsink and burns himself. Plus how are you going to move air over this heatsink quickly enough to dissipate all this heat? You sure as hell can't mount a 120mm fan on a paintball marker... ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 18 April 2008 at 8:52pm
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You can't trust people to hold back until it cools off.
Lawsuits ahoy! |
Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 18 April 2008 at 11:00pm
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You also have combustion problems, trying to clear the chamber of exhaust too fast, it would bring the fuel/air mix down, and result in misfires. Only solution would be to put a gigantic ram on to make the C3 autococking, and then you ave a kick problem. ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 18 April 2008 at 11:06pm
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The Guy wrote:Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 19 April 2008 at 2:00am
Oxymoron of the day.
The extra electonics would add expense to the marker to the point where it would outweigh the value.
First off, passive heatsinks aren't going to do the job, not in the timespan you're thinking of. They would add bulk, weight and again unnecessary expense.
Then by all means, please use your vast knowledge in engineering and make your own Propane marker. You obviously know more than a company like Tippmann who've been making paintball markers for the last 22 years and actual firearms years before that.
No thanks. You pretty much covered the ideas inspired by your PS3.
Yeah, I won't be getting those couple of minutes back... ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 19 April 2008 at 7:14pm
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 19 April 2008 at 7:45pm
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Sorry. Rough week at home. -------------
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Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 04 May 2008 at 10:50pm
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haha i like the multiple firing chambers revolving inside a drum. that would be amazingly funny, cool, and scary all at the same time |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 04 May 2008 at 10:57pm
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I never had a heat issue with my C-3. Nor the MFM3K. ------------- 
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 06 May 2008 at 4:07am
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Instead of heatsinks on a propane semi, put a grill on it. Slap a sirloin on it just before play. The meat will absorb the heat generated by the marker. Just remember to flip the steak between games. At the end of the day, you'll have something to eat! -------------
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Posted By: paintballa43708
Date Posted: 06 May 2008 at 6:18am
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^^^^^^ good idea ------------- Pain Is Weakness Leaving The Body 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 06 May 2008 at 10:07am
Referee: "Buddy I've had three complaints today about you overshooting." Player: "Sorry." Referee: "What the heck! You're shooting a pump. How do you overshoot people with a pump?" Player: "I like my steaks well done." ------------- 
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Posted By: paintballa43708
Date Posted: 06 May 2008 at 2:07pm
lmao ------------- Pain Is Weakness Leaving The Body
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 07 May 2008 at 10:58pm
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The added bonus to the 'steak-sink' is that your opponents will smell the meat cooking and will crane their heads around trying to figure out where the aroma is coming from, thus giving away their positions. -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 08 May 2008 at 12:46am
 It's that important. -------------
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Posted By: wingbatwu
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:14pm
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There are ceramics that don't get hot when heated, or at least they cool very rapidly... Did Tippmann try that solution? |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:33pm
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... I am sure Tippmann tried every viable solution. -------------
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:48pm
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I wonder if its possible to deform/break/melt paintballs in a C3 barrel due to overshooting or on a modded semi/full auto propane gun. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tpaintballer98
Date Posted: 06 June 2008 at 8:27pm
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I see much danger and sueing in this. ------------- Plays at Rush Paintball www.rushpaintball.com |
Posted By: Stopwatch
Date Posted: 06 June 2008 at 10:13pm
| Great input 15 days later. |
Posted By: Tiny-Turtle
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 9:56pm
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12 gram of CO2 on the top of the gun? ------------- 
raising the bar |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 10:03pm
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stop with the bumping of old post FFS! ------------- 
J. Thompson #5150- http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?t=2945831 - Happiness Is A Tupperware Fed Weapon |
Posted By: Sidicas
Date Posted: 20 July 2008 at 6:57pm
How about Liquid Nitrogen?  Shrink the size of the propane tank, add on a liquid nitrogen tank, and every other shot use liquid nitrogen (expands to gas just like CO2 but cools much better) Or better yet, why not just suck liquid CO2 into the marker and use that every other shot? Hmmm.. Kinda defeats the purpose of using a propane marker to begin with though. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 20 July 2008 at 9:05pm
Then there's the minor detail that propane and CO2 as paintball propellants operate on entirely different principals. -------------
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 20 July 2008 at 11:44pm
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use liquid nitrogen as a propellant, its flammable, and it will cool the chamber.
------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 20 July 2008 at 11:54pm
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"Hello, this is Tippmann Tech Support, how may I help you?" "Uh, I think the skin of my hand fused with the body of your new pump. It's really cold..." ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 4:32pm
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They make small tanks for that stuff? Can you imagine the expense?!?
The marker uses combustion to propel the paintball. Having a dual-purpose firing chamber that uses combustion and cryogenic gas for alternate firing would also be cost prohibitive and HEAVY. The reason to use common propane tanks is just that. They're common. The idea of using liquid nitrogen is dangerous and foolish. -------------
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 4:33pm
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I think my sarcasm meter is broken... -------------
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 5:43pm
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this is just as bad as the paint knife and paint thrower's lol ------------- 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 5:50pm
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Actually, it's worse. The paint knife and paint thrower, while impractical, are at least plausible. Some of the ideas offered in this thread don't even have plausibility going for them.
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 5:51pm
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how vary true. -------------
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Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 24 July 2008 at 9:09pm
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the solution is simple Kill the batman ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 25 July 2008 at 11:23pm
Caught me completely off guard.  |
Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 07 August 2008 at 3:30pm
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In regards to cost effectiveness some sort of liquid cooling sleeve could be used to absorb the heat, like used on early machine guns to prevent them from over heating. The sleeve or insert could then be switched out with another one when it gets too warm, and while the person is playing the previous sleeve is given time to cool or has the coolant replaced. ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |