air effcieny
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Topic: air effcieny
Posted By: jeff1304
Subject: air effcieny
Date Posted: 26 April 2008 at 9:45pm
| when using my a5 with a 14 in lapco bigshot at 280fps roughly how many shots should i get out of a 12oz or a 20oz ? |
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 26 April 2008 at 10:04pm
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You should get 750-800 out of the 12oz and 1000-1200 out of a 20oz.
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Posted By: Lady_Incognito
Date Posted: 28 April 2008 at 5:55pm
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You can maximize your Air efficiency by modding your cyclone. I have the TechT Vortex mod and you can get more rounds out before the cyclone stops working from low PSI. The cyclone stops working at about 450ish psi, and with the vortex it'll let you get down to about 100-200 psi, maximizing the tank efficiency and shots fired. ------------- The way to win a war, is to make sure it never starts. Get Em' Before they Get you A5,Flatline Barrel,stock,RT,wicked Bolt,squishy paddle,vortex mod,lightning rod,QEPH,BT-4 Spring kit(red) |
Posted By: ThatGuitarGuy
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 10:36am
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Would an expansion chamber reduce the number of shots one should get from a tank?
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Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 11:07am
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no it should still give you the same number of shots. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/"> 
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Posted By: ThatGuitarGuy
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 11:12am
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So from a A5, with expansion chamber, and a 20oz tank, I should still be getting around 1000 shots per tank?
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Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 11:16am
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Yes, approximately. Optimally, an expansion chamber allows liquid C02 to expand to a gaseous state before entering the valve of the marker. ------------- 
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ThatGuitarGuy wrote:Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 11:36am
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Adding to the answer on the expansion chamber question: It can approve CO2 efficiency in certain circumstances. If the player is firing at a slow and steady rate, the extra expansion room allows the CO2 to fully expand before entering the valve. This means that the propellant potential of the CO2 is being fully utilized. Once the player starts firing rapidly in many cases they will be using CO2 gas at a rate faster than the liquid CO2 in the tank can transform into a gas. Eventually, they will start using CO2 that isn't fully expanded. This is inherently less efficient. The difference here is that if the marker has set unfired for a while, there is a larger volume of fully expanded gas to utilize before the not so expanded gas (or liquid) makes its way to the valve. The ambient temperature effects this process because it controls how fast the CO2 will evaporate into a gas. The type of marker itself is also a factor as differences in both valves and velocity adjustment devices determine both/either the actual amount of gas released with each shot and the rate of release. Short version: An expansion chamber can in certain conditions allow more shots per tank of CO2 but the variables such as rate of fire, temperature and marker type make it impossible to provide an exact answer of how much. Edited Note: The factors I listed are the major issues, not the only issues to consider. (As an example, even the size of the tank and the ratio of liquid to gaseous CO2 in the tank affect this process.) ------------- 
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Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 30 April 2008 at 2:39pm
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Honestly, I had an expansion chamber, and liked it. I replaced it with a Palmer's Stabilizer, and I LOVE it!!! If you buy a expansion chamber, you'll spend 40 bucks, and you'll get a little improvement. An A-5 stabilizer kit is 115 bucks, Ouch, but you will get a MAJOR amount of improvement in both efficiency & consistency. If you can wait long enough to save the extra cash, I think you'll be glad you did. I was! P.S. 2 weeks ago my friend & I played. Both 98C's, both with 20 oz CO2 tanks, and 1000 balls each. My gun has the cyclone & response trigger, and his does not. (in theory, mine should use more air to maintain velocity & power the cyclone & R/T). He has a Tippmann X-Chamber, and I have a Palmer's stabilizer. Same 1000 shots, and I filled the tanks. His had 2.5 ounces left in it. Mine had 4 ounces left in it. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |