I know its been done before. Next is removing/filling the velocity adjustment hole. Other plans are to mount Ariakon pistol mag.

glad i can help, keep us posted, i want to see it when it's done (or the process lol).

oh fyi, when you do get them, you going to have to mount them backwards due to the hole near the front of the gun, as where the ariakons are near the back.

I figured as much about the mounting backwards. I am guessing I may have to mill off some where the stock front site is. This and having to possibly refill some of the gills on the left may make me lean towards trying to mount it at a 45deg on the right side using the stock hole. Plus, this will allow me to still use the top rail to mount a sight or ghost ring. Will have to see. I will definitely post more pics as I progress. Trying to get it ready for a "pump only" game at a field I like. The owner said I could use a semi if I hand loaded it, and or a pistol. I countered with a pistol magazine fed semi and he said to "bring it".

mounting it on the side might be a cool idea, i was just looking at that and i think it will work, well the mag has a spring in it so it should work fine.

i guess we will just have find out when it comes in the mail.

Here are some updated photos of the progress. Still lots of finish sanding and I am waiting for the wire stock w/RVA. Still debating on finish. Wife is all into the shiny, but I am so anal about the fill spots that I am leaning towards black with just some highlighted polished parts. Opinions welcome. Be kind.

hey that dosent look half bad, i like it.

yea polish the gun but leave the gills black, it gives it a better look.

good job sofar, keep us posted.

Pariel wrote: Very nice. I'm a big fan of that front stock. Is that the mag on top, with sights on it?

Yes the mag is the peice on top. It is from an Ariakon ACP 2.0.  They offer a kit that Kuri led me to that includes the rails to mount it. The mag does have some sort of "sites". The second pic shows the rails that are used to clip the mag on. If anybody is interested, when I get totally done, I will repost and take some disassembled pics as well. Thanks all for the input.

kurieitaa wrote: oldpb, hows the work going on the project, ever thought of a stock?

Actually, I just got the stock on Friday and put it on and assembled the marker. I dont have a chrono so I had to wait until Sunday to take it to a local field and get it set up. Unfortunately, I couldnt get the FPS down below 320. I have the front VA screwed and couldn't get it down using the RVA. Since I filled the front VA hole, I would have had to tear the marker apart to get it set right and I wasn't really in the mood after playing all day. I will get some pics up though later today.

With the stock, I noticed a couple of things. The stock isn't long enough, so it will have to be lengthened and also I can't get it tight enough, so I will need to find a way to get it tighter fitting. It is a Rap4 wire stock and am not really all that impress with it so far. I like the look though.

Once I get the FPS and stock squared away, I may look at some way of getting the ASA off of the bottom of the grip. Even with a 9 oz bottle, it a bit unwieldly and honestly with only a 32 shot capacity (2 in the "breach" + 3 - 10round mags) at this point is a bit of overkill. I found an adapter that holds two 12g co2 cartrides and may either mount under the stock once I lengthen it, or under the marker where the current front stock is (and make a new stock around it). Still working this one out in my head.

As a side note, by Brother in law kept caressing it and calling it Precious all the way to and from the PB field yesterday, so I have a feeling it won't be in my possession for long after I work the kinks out.

oldpbnoob wrote: As a side note, by Brother in law kept caressing it and calling it Precious all the way to and from the PB field yesterday, so I have a feeling it won't be in my possession for long after I work the kinks out.

i lol'd.

Ok, here are updated pics with the new stock. I'm 6'1" with 36" arm length, so will need to lengthen it a good 3-4". As the tubes are 1/2 OD, I will most likely use PVC and cover with aluminum pipe for strength. The tubes on the stock actually slide in and use set screws, so I can replace them. I may have to add a longer barrel to offset the balance of look and feel. As it is, it is actually pretty balanced feeling.

For the FPS issue, I meant to say I had the FVA nearly all the way out. I should be able to just screw in a little to get the FPS down. I am interested in the spring cut though and may try it. I wonder if it would help with accuracy vs using the FVA?

I am going to use black hockey tape to get the stock more stable. And yes, I am going to paint over the Rap4 logo.

Just for the record these are the mods:

1. Front gills milled and opened.

2. Front grip mounting milled off

3. Filled FVA hole

4. Centerfed. Used 1" aluminum stock to fit over milled down top rail. Both narrowed and shortened. Partially filled stock feed hole.

5. Stock feed neck mounting points milled off.  

6. Ariakon 2.0 ACP mag and rails

7. 12" J&J ceramic barrel

8. Custom made front stock. Wood/PVC

9. Rap4 wire stock w/ RVA

Totally, 100% stock internals.

Thanks for all the positive feedback.

I've thought about that actually. First idea was to route the air line through the grip basically replacing the lower portion of the trigger frame similiar to the pro lites. Or is it SL68's? Problem I run into is I think I would need at least 2 12g's to be viable and it would stick out of the bottom of the grip/handle. According to specs, one 12g would only be capable of 15-20 shots and make it a very short game unless really easy to reload. With 2 12g's, I could at least unload 30 shots or so.  Still a pretty short game, but honestly, this is more for show than go. I am thinking about removing the front stock and putting a 2 12g adapter on and making a new front stock to cover it, more like a shotgun pump look than what I have now. Alternatively, I have looked at the 3oz disposable CO2 canisters at Wally World and wondered about those. Easier to install and mount. Gears are turning. I really do want the tank off of the grip, just figuring out how to do it and how much I really want to spend doing it.

So now I'll rile up the natives. Any suggestions on a name? I was thinking Tippariokon or Frankensniper. LOL. yeah, I know....