Stealth Modded Hoppers
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Topic: Stealth Modded Hoppers
Posted By: techietaichi
Subject: Stealth Modded Hoppers
Date Posted: 16 May 2008 at 9:07am
Now this has been done before, the sound dampening of hoppers or 'stealth modding'. I saw a dude from Croatia on YouTube make one and decided that, I'd give it a try. The A5 drum was the first, but I think the pattern can be better..... 
.....like my X7 Hopper. I patterned it in such a way that it lessens the number of pieces that need to be applied to the interior of the hopper. It's a little trickier to apply, but not too difficult. My intention is to try and sell the precut patterns on ebaY to see how they do. I'd like to hear your opinions or questions about it. Thanks all. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig"> 
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Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 16 May 2008 at 10:36am
| pretty neat. i really don't care how loud my marker is, but there is certainly a market for this. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 16 May 2008 at 12:00pm
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Ricochet has a sound deadening insert for their hoppers. The brief 8 hours I owned one of their junk hoppers, I had the insert and it worked quite well. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 16 May 2008 at 12:48pm
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Meh, I am normally shooting anyways so i can already be heard. If I am trying to be "stealthy" it is normally at the beginning of the insertion so my hopper is normally full.
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 16 May 2008 at 1:18pm
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What I'm getting at is night play and CQB or MOUT Combat where silence is a boon. Certainly helps to get the drop on the next guy, know what I mean? ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 16 May 2008 at 11:58pm
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thats a pretty neat idea for the night time play. ------------- 
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 17 May 2008 at 1:33am
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Here's the http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPqlNtlEh4U - video that compelled me to give this idea a go. I just improved and continue to improve on Borg's original idea(to make it my own) and have templates for the A5 and X7 Hoppers. Soon I'll be making templates for the Ricochet R5. Watch the end of his video of how well the sound dampening material works. It's really pretty freakin' cool. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 17 May 2008 at 4:10am
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oh Borg-Tech, i remember him, yea that guy has a lot of cool things on his you tube page, the home made bi-pod is and the foam gun case are really good and usefull (and a few others). -------------
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 18 May 2008 at 11:14am
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Something like this wouldn't help my style of play at all, but there definitely is a distinct (and possibly limited) market for it. I wish you luck.
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 18 May 2008 at 10:38pm
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but then again, if you make the stencles and offer "spec ops" some sort of a deal, it might work, anything "sniper" sells like crazy on there. -------------
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Posted By: WrongFoot
Date Posted: 19 May 2008 at 6:10pm
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Thats interesting, I always though hoppers where to loud. ------------- LooK! NO HANDLEBARS!!!!!! |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 19 May 2008 at 11:04pm
They're actually quite simple to make, but now that I have templates for the X7 and A5 hoppers and soon the R5, I figured what the hell, I'll cut a few patterns and try to sell 'em to players that don't want to hassle with purchasing and creating a pattern of their hoppers for themselves. All they have to do is apply, that's it.  It was a pain to find just the right material that would suit ME and now I have a large amount of it. I'll probably do a vid like Borg-Tech to help with application for any that buy and to demonstrate how quiet it is. I'm very impressed with the mod. And for those that do not understand, this is for the element of surprise. Of course you're going to make hella noise when you shoot, BUT this is to help make sure YOU'RE the one that shoots FIRST. The element of surprise. I'm telling you, night play and indoor CQB, this will make a difference in regard to sound off your marker as you move.
I tell you what guys, I'm willing to cut 10 patterns, five A5 and five X7 patterns for any of you seriously interested in giving this a try. I'll even mail them to you for FREE! You don't pay me a cent, however it's not without a fee. Your fee will be a serious feedback about what you found to be strengths and/or weaknesses so it'll help me improve what I'm trying to create. I want them posted here, for all to see, either good or ill. So if your interested and can really take the time to thoroughly critique this proto-gear then post and I'll contact you. This may move to a different thread if I don't get enough hits, but post up anyway. I look forward to sending one of these to you. A5 Participants: 1. StormyKnight 2. The Guy 3. Yomillio and friend 4. Nagash1959 5. X7 Participants: 1. Reb Cpl 2. 3. 4. 5. Ricochet R5 Participants: COMING SOON! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:05am
Here's the A5 stock hopper pattern drawn out....
....and then cut and ready for install. All you have to do is peel and stick. 
I'll be cutting more A5's and maybe some X7's tonight. So what about it peeps, review my stealthTech Hopper Liner; a serious review and I'll send one for free. Check the list above and get your spot. Thanks! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 1:56pm
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I'll give it a shot Techie, I'll even break out the sound equipment and give it a full breakdown. You know, to make it all scientific and stuff.
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 2:12pm
yeah, i just watched his bipod video and it gave me ideas, now i know why mine didn't work. ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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kurieitaa wrote:Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:04pm
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alright then The Guy, what'll ya' be havin' an X7 or A5? PM me with the info and I'll have it cut up and out tomorrow. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 6:25pm
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If I had my A-5 here I would think about it.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:40pm
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Given the large number of gravity red hoppers out there, you should design one for the average gravity fed hopper. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: god-o-paintball
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:53pm
| ya i watched last month and im thinking about doing it but im gonna wait till i get my other hopper so i have another just in case i mess up this one by some stupid reason. but i do like this idea. |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 1:38am
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Ok, all the A5 patterns have been cut. I have 2 patterns left to be applied and one(1) hopper that has the stealthTech Hopper Liner already installed. For anyone interested, I'll trade my A5(or X7) hopper with you so long as your's isn't beat to hell. However, I currently have the A5 and the X7 hoppers up on ebaY, so stand by if you're interested in securing the hopper and PM me to get first crack at it. Keep in mind that your trading with me helps, 'cause then I can do an 'Application" video.
I'm making the X7 patterns as well tonight and will be creating templates for the Ricochet R5 sometime next week, so those with that hopper can get in on the fun and try this out too. Have a good one guys, it's back to using my noodle.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Snake6.
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:57am
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Agreed. Also the template for gravity fed hopper would also fit a revvy. Two birds with one stone. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 6:45pm
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 7:35pm
yeah, just put a little punchout notch for the spindle. |
Posted By: paintball437085
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 9:37pm
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^^^^ lol wat happened ------------- psn=Xx_DY3_xX |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 11:22pm
What is that garbage in my thread? Clean please.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 12:09am
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not sure what happened, i didn't even see the post. Anyway, I got mine yesterday. I need to hook up my stereo mic and all that, and probly redownload sound forge and all that.
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 12:39am
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Hey. Sweet, I'm glad you got it. Give it a good run through. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 12:04pm
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I forgot, to ask you to send me some extra scrap pieces. I wanted to see how the foam reacted to long-term exposure to paint. *edit* I just hooked up my equipment, and this may take longer than i thought. There is too much ambient noise down here. Between my computer fans and the aquarium. ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 9:15pm
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If you have to trim a little off to fit just right into the hopper, use those little scraps. As a matter of fact, drown 'em. I was told that this material is non-absorbant. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: d4rkmonkey
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 12:10am
| If you haven't already, you should make a post on the spec ops forums. All those guys obsessed with being "snipers" are sure to want something like this. |
Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 7:04pm
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I have a friend who might be interested in taking one of the standard A5 ones for you. I'll talk to him about it and PM you if hes interested.
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 9:33pm
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That's nice, but look Yo, I need someone that's gonna test this out and come back to post up their findings, that's MY fee for sending one for free. I'm packing these and driving to the post office to mail off on my tab. I can deal with a concise review, but so long as they're descriptive and given with an honest and thorough opinion. Is he even part of this forum? Doesn't sound like it to me.
Anyways, I may just post this up in the Spec Ops forums as well, but not until I have templates for a Revvy. Until then though, the TIPPMANN gang still gets first crack at 'em, so PM me for yours. If you're willing to review it for me, then I'm willing to send you one.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 4:30pm
No, he's not part of the forum. That why I wanted to check with him first - to make sure he'd be willing to write up a full and complete review for you. Were both going to an all day scenario game soon, so I'll be with him the whole time and this is probably when the majority of the review would take place. I'd make sure the review got to you. Anyways, I understand if you don't want to because hes not a direct member of the forum and such. Just figured I'd put it out there for you. As of now, I still don't know if he'd be interested. -------------
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 28 May 2008 at 7:39pm
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Ok then, well if he is and is willing to post up through you or whatever, I think that'd be great too. Let me know if either of you are interested and thanks. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 31 May 2008 at 7:59am
Ok Yomillio, I got your message and the A5 liner will be going out today. I hope you and your friend like it and hope to see a review here in the near future. THANKS! 
Hey peeps, I'm still looking for X7 participants, WASSAP?! A5 Participants: 1. StormyKnight 2. The Guy 3. Yomillio and friend 4. Nagash1959 5. X7 Participants: 1. Reb Cpl 2. 3. 4. 5. Ricochet R5 Participants: COMING SOON! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 June 2008 at 9:05am
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I'd like to get in on it, and would gladly test out the X7 pattern for you. I've got almost immediate access to an area where I can shoot and run to test the noise dampening factor of the pattern. ------------- ? |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 02 June 2008 at 9:12am
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Hey, right on Reb. Just so happens I cut an X7 Pattern last night. PM me with the address you want it sent to and it'll be otw today.
BTW Stormy and The Guy, how goes it with that? I haven't heard from you guys and just wanted to know if you had any questions for me. And Yo, it should be there sometime before Wednesday I think. Thanks fellas! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 June 2008 at 9:38am
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My one question would be how difficult it would be to clean should there end up being a ball break or something in the hopper? How absorbent is the material to paint, and how would it effect subsequent rounds stored in the hopper- also, should I have to clean it- what would that entail? ------------- ? |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 02 June 2008 at 10:21am
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Hey Techie, I would be interested in one of the R5s when you finish em. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 02 June 2008 at 12:35pm
Yeah, sure thing 'oldp'. I'll be getting those done soon in the next week or so. I've been in kind of a rut lately. I haven't ganked anyone in over a week.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 02 June 2008 at 5:13pm
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Got mine in the mail today - a big surprise considering it was shipped out Saturday. Hell, it was faster than something I had in state shipped to me via priority last week. Anyways, I figured I'd put this up for you guys. I applied it and have my hopper ready to go, ready for my friend to play with this weekend (since he is the one with the A5, not me). We have a big senario on Saturday, and after playing I'll post up his review and my review of how it held up. For now, we have my initial thoughts. I apologize in advance for some poor pictures. Horray! Stock A-5 hopper I had laying around:  Poof, taken apart:  Cleaning it up really good with soap and water so the adhesive sticks well:  Taking a look at the whole kit and seeing how it fits in before applying:  First two large pieces in:  First side done:  Second done:  Again, hopper. Unsuspecting to those who don't know:  I found very little wrong with the actual installation. As you may see, the first side I put together had some pretty large gaps, but none that should be big enough to allow the arc of a ball to enter so functionality wasn't compromised here. Once I got a hang of how to apply them best and where to put them for ideal placement, the second side came out much better with smaller gaps and a cleaner look. The only way I could really see anything here improving is making a numbered diagram and putting numbers on the back of the pieces for ease of application, but the average user should have no problem figuring out what goes where. I didn't. After all was said and done, I did a little bit of home testing. First, I checked the new capacity of it, and measured it out to be about 175 balls. A little reduced, but nothing serious. It really doesn't matter all too much - it still holds more than a pod. Second, I checked how well the sound-deadening worked by putting about 40 balls in and shaking it around. The sound is greatly reduced (and when I say greatly, I do mean it). The only time I could ever hear a ball is when one hit either the lid or the collar area with no foam (the part that actually goes into the Cyclone. Because it will be in the Cyclone feed when playing, you probably won't hear the balls hitting against it as prevalently as I did just shaking it around). You could also hear the balls hitting the uncovered areas where the screws actually screw into the hopper. It wasn't too obvious, but it was still there. Both the lid and these areas could be fixed with more foam - a circle to cover the lid (it could be an option, as some will probably still want to have semi-visibility through their lid) and maybe some small pieces to cover the screw area. I'm pretty sure that covers everything I wanted to say. Overall, it seems like a solidly functioning and easy to apply kit. We'll get the full review this weekend as well as how the kit held up after a day of hard playing. -------------
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 05 June 2008 at 9:19pm
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ive never really though of it, but i'll take one for the A-5 if you still have any openings.
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 06 June 2008 at 1:52am
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Hey there ctchofday. I do have one final opening for the A5, but someone's already contacted me about it, so their participation is pending. If it falls through I'll let you know and you can step up. Do understand however, that I want an honest review about this item to be posted here for others to read and for me to make improvements to my idea if need be. That's my fee. I'll let you know what happens man. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: hobohunter23
Date Posted: 06 June 2008 at 3:09pm
| How much are you planning on selling these for? I might buy one on ebay in the summer when im back in canada, because im a bit of a newbie, so I wouldn't have a very good review. |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 06 June 2008 at 3:41pm
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That really hasn't been on my mind. First I want to see what people have to say about it. I have to get opinions before I get coin. Right now, I'm just having fun experimenting. Btw, what's your guys take on sound proofing the lid as well? I think I'm headed that way. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 06 June 2008 at 3:58pm
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i think it should be in the templates tho, that will have to be up to the person putting it on the hopper. -------------
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 06 June 2008 at 7:08pm
cool thanks ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 06 June 2008 at 10:25pm
I still need to get my ambiance down in order to justify a proper sound test. Tat pretty much means shutting down my aquarium for a while ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 08 June 2008 at 10:29am
As I did, yesterday my friend also noted the lacking of padding on the lid. He said whatever gains were made were sort of negated by having an unpadded lid. Anyways, I'll be sure to get on the review today and try to get his by the end of the week. He isn't the easiest person in the world to contact. -------------
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 3:30pm
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Review on X7 pads: They took a few minutes to figure out how to install them, but not a whole lot of effort. I did it while I was watching Jeff Dunham, so I was fairly distracted and still managed get them installed correctly. Note: make sure that your hopper halves are clean and dry, or the sticky side will not adhere to the plastic. I had an issue with one of the thin pads that go up near the lid because I didn't dry it properly. The pads line up nicely together, and after dumping a pod of paint into the reassembled hopper, the rattle factor was cut down significantly. Not completely, but significantly. I was impressed. The 'noise points' were the protruding tubes where the screws connect the two halves, and the inside of the lid. I'm not too concerned with any of that however, since it wasn't all that bad- some may choose to put a pad on the inside of the hopper lid, it didn't matter that much to me. All in all, I like it. It doesn't cut down the capacity of the hopper enough for me to get excited about, and it limits my ball rattle quite nicely. Well done. The template was perfect by the way, no tweaks or adjustments are necessary for the X7 hopper.  ------------- ? |
Posted By: im_new
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 3:45pm
| techie, your pieces are a lot cleaner than borgs. what kind of material are you using?? size, and cost?? and where did you pick it up at?? |
Posted By: XtremeBordom
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 12:18pm
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Is the X7 hopper cut outs the stealth hopper cut outs? I mean the X7 stealthy look hopper.
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Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 12:22pm
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Got mine in the mail yesterday, plan on doing lots of testing over the weekend. Just to get the full picture I plan on using the normal hopper filled at different levels, full, 3/4, 1/2, 1/4 to see the effect on the regular hopper, then trying it with the Stealth version. Also testing it at different running speeds, jumping, etc. I'd do this now but this [very bad word] heat wave is a killer. ------------- 98 Custom Cyclone Double E-Trigger Polished Internals Freak kit X-chamber CP Drop w/On/Off |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 10:19pm
I'm pleased. The hopper reviews thus far go well and I'm glad it is. I'm looking forward to the others and hope they're similar. I was thinking about a simple design for the lid today and have come up with one that I think is pretty viable. kurieitaa mentioned that it should at least be included as an option, and I have to agree. Those that have come aboard will be the first to get them as well so I'll let you know. Ok, now to answer some questions.
I haven't forgotten about you oldpnoob, just haven't gotten around to it yet. Hell, I use an R5 and I don't even have my own mod in it. DOH! 
The other guy's out ctchofday, you're in. PM me the address to send it to and I'll have it out Saturday. I look forward to your review and thanks pal.
How goes that project?
Thanks for the comment im_new. I mentioned the material I'm using once in this thread. As far as size, cost and where I acquired it from? I'm going with 'trade secret' for now. Makes it more fun for you when you finally solve the puzzle.
BAM!
And one last thing, I look forward to your upcoming review as well Nagash1959 and like I mentioned to The Guy, give it a good run-through. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 13 June 2008 at 12:38pm
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My I guess you'd call it "control" testing is going to be sunday morning, with sunday afternoon being testing during actual woods gaming. Can't wait to see the in-game effect. ------------- 98 Custom Cyclone Double E-Trigger Polished Internals Freak kit X-chamber CP Drop w/On/Off |
Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:33pm
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The padding on the inside of my hopper really helped me stay quiet when I was sneaking around in the woods. Except for the occasional rattling
of against the lid of the hopper it was silent. When i was playing paintball a little while later with my old hopper I really noticed how
loud I sounded without the additional padding. I don't think I'll ever
go back to the stock hopper. -Matt Also, after the game inspection turned up well. The padding held up fine to the oils and crap of paintballs, with no real difference or irregularity in texture and the pieces stayed in place no problem. Seems like you may be on to something Techie. -------------
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 6:54pm
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hey were you gunna do a gravity feed set?? if so do you need pepole to test it?? if so im in. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 8:39pm
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I plan on doing a Revvy, soon as I do my R5. Hell, I might as well do my Ricochet tonight. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 16 June 2008 at 8:45pm
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ok so no gravity feed?? ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 1:22am
Hey guys. Well, I didn't do my R5, but I did cut the template for the lid and WOW, that does make a difference! I tried cutting a few designs too, but you know what? I figure I'll just include it and let the player cut whatever design they like, if that's what they want to do. On the other hand they can leave it be if they desire full coverage and to be honest, I just shake my marker and feel for the vibration to know whether I need to re-load or not, so full coverage for me.
This is what will be included, just plain old circles. 
Of the different designs I was fooling around with, I found this "Pac-Man" pattern to be my favorite. 
The smoke colored lid however, really puts a damper on visuals. So, those of you participants that would like the lid pad, shoot me a PM with the address to send to and I'll get it out. For the rest of you that would like to come aboard and try this Hopper Mod, the lid's included now. There is currently 1 spot for the A5 mod and 4 spots for the X7. If you agree to my 'fee' mentioned in the early part of this thread, PM me and let's see what we can do. Those of you with R5's, be ready. I will have it done by Saturday and 'oldpnoob', you're R5 pattern's already reserved. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 10:55am
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Well, I went and did it. This idea is now posted on the 98OG and SpecOps forums. Hopefully it creates a good enough stir among the communities as I continue to develop it.
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 17 June 2008 at 4:37pm
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Here's a http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shahCdNBQtA - VIDEO I just did for these liners. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 8:00am
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I've got the 98OG clan jumping on the field testing now. A couple are pending, but grab your spots guys.
A5 Participants: 1. StormyKnight 2. The Guy(reviewed) 3. Yomillio and Matt(reviewed) 4. Nagash1959(reviewed) 5. ctchofday X7 Participants: 1. Reb Cpl(reviewed) 2. nchittendon[98OG] 3. 4. 5. Ricochet R5 Participants: 1. oldpnoob 2. 3. 4. 5. Revvy Participants: COMING SOON! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 1:10pm
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PM sent, review is in! ------------- 98 Custom Cyclone Double E-Trigger Polished Internals Freak kit X-chamber CP Drop w/On/Off |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 1:16pm
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yo il take a spot on the gravity feed list when you get em done. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 1:30pm
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gravity feed hoppers are lame, dont bother to waste your time on them. -------------
[ http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com - My Web Site }-{ http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/cpbg - My Paintball Guns ] |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 1:41pm
Here's Nagash1959's review, drawn from the PM he sent: Capacity: Pre-mod I emptied and filled the hopper 3 times and got the average number boiled down to 203 (funny I know, but hey we are talking averages..). Post-mod'ed the capacity average after three tests hit 178 -so a loss of 25 balls. Not too much to worry about there. This is from simply pouring them in, with a little jiggling you can get more in there, but unless your loading off-field between games your not too likely to waste the extra time worrying about 10 rounds. Movement quiality: Tested at a walking, jogging and running pace, with full, 1/3,1/2 and 1/4 full. As both modded and unmodded. Unmoded results we're expectedly loud and in a wooded area that noise likes to throw out really loud to players nearby and drop off quickly when further away. Modded results At entirely full the hopper stands up flawlessly. The nearby noise drops to less then a leaf underfoot. At a jogging or running pace your other gear is likely to be the problem, anlong with the huffing and puffing :-) At 3/4 full I notice an issue. The walking pace is just fine, but the jogging and running definately cause more hits against the lid then you'd want without the lid modded. Once the hopper reaches 1/2 or lower the balls in there are less likely to hit the lid. So I find the real danger zone to be around 3/4 full for anyone with a lid modded, or anyone moving too fast. Resistance to wear: Put a small piece into a plastic bag with three balls in it, then smashed it with a baseball bat (no, not kidding here) and left it to soak in for about 30 hours. Washed right out, with only the most barely noticeable discoloration to the material. This was with plain old tap water, no soap on cold. A little more water and some scrubbing by hand took the color right out. Adhesive material: Held up well, peeled a very small amount on one or two of the smaller pieces, but pushed back into place. THe pieces have sense stayed in place. Possilbly only happened to me putting them on at a bad angle. Other things I noticed. Behind the lid in that small groove to the front (in the direction the lid opens too) I placed a small piece of the neoprene. Now when the lid opens it doesnt make that pop noise that the people I was playing with were listening for. Other peoples opinion: The found that the normal noise they could listen for, the balls in the hopper, was deminished when nearby by enough to significantly throw them off early on. They started to "jump at every little noise" mistaking it for my approach. After a good amount of play time together they started to actively travel together to use more visual tracking, which was a great way to get people grouped together and hose em down. Over-all review. The changes made to normal way one tracks opponents out-doors was significant enough that I would definately say that liner works well and was worth the time invested to install it. Thanks for letting me be a part of the test team! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 1:46pm
------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 3:30pm
Hopper? I have patterns to apply to your hopper if you have the right one. A5's are closed out for the time being, but X7's and R5's are wide open man. You agree to review my mod and I'll send you one for free, np. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: im_new
Date Posted: 18 June 2008 at 5:24pm
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wow techie. GREAT job on the video. you covered all areas and was very well said. ive just invested into a new loader, the torque. i wish i knew what material u are using :D. im gonna try with my crappy felt again. great job, thanks for sharing your knowledge ------------- 98 custom pro e-trigger flatline torque loader tippmann expansion chamber |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 19 June 2008 at 12:02pm
------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 19 June 2008 at 1:27pm
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I'll take an R-5 if you are still looking for Guniea pigs. PM me and I can give you my email address. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 21 June 2008 at 1:52pm
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This is a PM from 'The Guy' stating his findings which I received a day or two ago:
Here is the end of my report. Probably not what you want to hear, but I did all the math and stuff. Conclusion. This is a good MK1 trial. It has room for improvement, however. In the spin test there was almost no difference in the sounds because of the paintballs hitting the lid of the loader. The difference in capacity is significant. The padded hopper holds only 85% of the volume that a normal loader does. The current configuration of the padded hopper, sines in the loading test. The sound from the paint as it enters the hopper is next to nothing, as it only hits foam on the way in and not any bare plastic. Recommendations Include a diagram when you market this, and label the foam pieces. It will ease installation for those that have not seen a completed hopper. Also include instructions on how to either secure the lid to the spring does not pop out, or how to replace the spring easily. Either works fine since the spring is not under much tension. I have already been informed of a MK2, that includes a lid pad, I would recommend that you go with this configuration, since the dark gray lid is nearly impossible to see through anyway. ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------- Hell, I'm pleased with it and as far as the diagram for installation goes, it's in the works. Guys, I have some good news. I've managed to get my mods into http://www.plaistowarmynavystore.com/ - my local PB store . I'm moving in the right direction thanks to your input. Keep them coming. ------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------- I've got the 98OG clan jumping on the field testing now. A couple are pending, but grab your spots guys. A5 Participants: 1. StormyKnight 2. The Guy(reviewed) 3. Yomillio and Matt(reviewed) 4. Nagash1959(reviewed) 5. ctchofday(reviewed) X7 Participants: 1. Reb Cpl(reviewed) 2. nchittendon[98OG] 3. greasegun1964[98OG] 4. 5. Ricochet R5 Participants: 1. oldpnoob 2. 3. 4. 5. Revvy Participants: COMING SOON! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 22 June 2008 at 8:27pm
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Thanks man. I like it. Heres my Review: Initial thought: Opened the packaging and layed the pieces out for inspection. Looked very nice. Clean cuts, nice soft but durable foam. Installation: The sticky side made it so much more clean than using some other form of glue. I will say that laying down some of the pieces was very annoying due the the sticky side being VERY sticky, but once i got the piece in place it didnt move. Everything lined up right and covered around 97% or so of the hopper. Took around 10 min, not bad. Operation: Dumped around 1/2 to 3/4 of a hopper of paintballs the hopper on the gun. Ran around outside doing various maneuvers that you'd normally do running around in the woods. Noise suppression was nice indeed, reduced it by atleast half maybe more. Very good mod indeed Techie. I cant wait to actually use it in a game and be able to run around with no one hearing anything but maybe a few footsteps every now and then. ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
'99 Snpr II, ˝d Karni, E-Orracle, 2k4 Spstk, 2k5 Prstk, PMR SE, A5, 98 |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 22 June 2008 at 8:33pm
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Thanks for the review 'ctchofday' and for the time you committed to doing it. Most of all, I'm glad you like it. If you don't mind, could you come back and tell us how it worked out in the field for you? I'd love to hear about it. Never know, it might make for a good tale. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 22 June 2008 at 11:47pm
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I'm definatly considering trying this out, but my gravity fed hopper is a really weird shape. Although I may end up buying a cyclone some time soon and getting an x7 hopper so I will have to try and get a hold of one of these then. The only thing thta kinda bothers me is the loss of capacity, but for almost pure silence I think it will be worth it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 23 June 2008 at 6:58pm
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The lost capacity isn't too bad. If you fully load your hopper before the game like normal then you won't be missing too much. And as I have never seen a 200 round pod you won't feel like you got shorted when you reload either. I have the 160 Dye pods and there is still room when I dump that in for more, so in game feels pretty much the same. ------------- 98 Custom Cyclone Double E-Trigger Polished Internals Freak kit X-chamber CP Drop w/On/Off |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 10:13am
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Some members over at A5OG have decided to join in on the field testing as well as the 98OG gang. I'm waiting on a couple return e-mails but first come first serve, ya know? Four more open spots for field testers, lemme know.
A5 Participants: 1. StormyKnight [TIPPMANN Forum] 2. The Guy[TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 3. Yomillio and Matt[TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 4. Nagash1959[TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 5. ctchofday[TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] X7 Participants: 1. Reb Cpl[TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 2. nchittendon[98OG] 3. greasegun1964[98OG] 4. KRA SHARPSHOOTER [A5OG] 5. Ricochet R5 Participants: 1. oldpnoob [TIPPMANN Forum] 2. shartley [A5OG reviewed] 3. 4. 5. Revvy Participants: COMING SOON! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: paintball437085
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 10:34am
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how much do you plan on selling them for? ------------- psn=Xx_DY3_xX |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 1:37pm
I'm set on $10, but I was scoping some material today and WOW! prices got retarded. ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 2:00pm
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I'm sure you could sell for more than $10, but for that price, more people will be willing to spend the money on it. "Snipers" will definetly buy them even at a higher price. |
Posted By: paintball437085
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 3:06pm
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i hope borg wont sue you for his idea. ------------- psn=Xx_DY3_xX |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 3:39pm
He'll have to speak with my patent lawyer if he comes over from Croatia, no offense Borg.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: paintball437085
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 3:47pm
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lol ------------- psn=Xx_DY3_xX |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 5:44pm
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he coudent anyways, borg should of jump'd on the idea in the first place, his loss really lol. -------------
[ http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com - My Web Site }-{ http://kurieitaa.googlepages.com/cpbg - My Paintball Guns ] |
Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 25 June 2008 at 10:58pm
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By volentarily places a how-to video of an un-patented product on the net, he sacrafices all rights to claim infringement of intullectual property. ------------- 98 Custom Cyclone Double E-Trigger Polished Internals Freak kit X-chamber CP Drop w/On/Off |
Posted By: ibuprofen
Date Posted: 27 June 2008 at 12:03pm
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i saw your thread on 98OG (I'm a member on A5OG) http://www.98og.net/98og/showthread.php?t=629 I've been doing alot of silence and camo mods lately. polished internals, silencing my pods and actually bought materials to silence my hopper yesterday. I just but a sheet of non sticky 2mm foam for $1 from a craft store and was going to cut and glue it to the inside of my hoppers but stumbled apon your thread before I started. Your product looks way easier. If you have an opening left I'd take one of your x7 designs and test it for you. I will probably do my regular a5 one using my own 2mm foam too and compare the noise difference. I'd be happy to write up a review/comparison for you. if you don't have any spots left that's fine. just let me know. I sent you a PM too. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 28 June 2008 at 6:05pm
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Finally my review. I finally got the inserts into the hopper. No mean feat considering my lack of dextrous, nimble fingers. I couldn't make it look as nice as the pictures, so there were some gaps here and there. The only thing that was more frustrating was not being able to put the hopper lid spring back in. Unfortunately it is a necissity as I re-load during games and I have a camo hopper cover that already interferes with the lid staying up. I found that the foam inserts do indeed quiet the hopper. The only place where the balls rattle is up against the hopper lid (which has been taken care of already). My problem with putting foam on the hopper lid is not being able to see how much paint I have left. And I can't really tell by shaking the hopper since it is a lot more silent due to the inserts. The one thing I tested that nobody else (that I can recall) is the hopper shot. How many here have had paint break inside their hopper from it being hit every once and awhile? I know I have. With the hopper full of paint, I took another marker and shot it from several distances all the way up to 10' away. Never suffered a break inside. So, not only do the inserts quiet the hopper, it also protects the paint inside. I did notice a loss of capacity of around 20 paintballs, but that really isn't much considering the benefits. -------------
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Posted By: The Guy
Date Posted: 29 June 2008 at 12:07am
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Did you fire shots at an unpadded hopper to see if you got breaks? ------------- http://www.anomationanodizing.com - My Site
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 01 July 2008 at 4:09pm
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So I've been thinking of having pre-made hoppers for peeps that don't have an A5, X7 or R5 hopper. Thing is, I gotta sell them at a premium because I won't get any discounts for the hoppers and can't buy THAT much bulk to knock down the price. Cost of hopper($?) + liner($15) = $25 - $35 for my pre-mades. Thoughts? ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Nagash1959
Date Posted: 02 July 2008 at 12:00am
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What about setting up a site so that people can send you whatever hopper they have, do it at home from the patterns you already have, and then send it back? Simply including the return shipping as part of the price. Most hoppers (or at least the empty shells) would be so light the cost would be almost nothing. I don't think it will get too out of control, and start eating all your free time, but even if it does, who doesn't love the $'s? ------------- 98 Custom Cyclone Double E-Trigger Polished Internals Freak kit X-chamber CP Drop w/On/Off |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 02 July 2008 at 1:31am
Hmmmmm....I'll have to chew on that one. Thanks for the suggestion Nagash. Anyways, I was surfing ebaY and http://cgi.ebay.com/Ricochet-R-5-Stealth-A-5-X-7-Paintball-Camo-Loader_W0QQitemZ360066214927QQihZ023QQcategoryZ71157QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247 - uh-oh, CRAP! The darn thing's fugly, but I hope their liner isn't patented and damned if I'll ask. Man, this process of talking to patent lawyers, the expense I have to bear and wondering if someone's going to usurp my hard work is really taxing.  I hope I'm not pissing in the wind.------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Badge
Date Posted: 02 July 2008 at 6:04am
| I sent you a PM, I would like to order you kit for my X7 hit me up on a pm with info. |
Posted By: paintball437085
Date Posted: 02 July 2008 at 6:34pm
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even if you do get bombarded with hoppers you can expand by hiring people on the fourm to help. ------------- psn=Xx_DY3_xX |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 02 July 2008 at 10:15pm
Employees? Haha, at least let me get it off the ground first. I will admit that I at least have one employee though, my wife.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: Pntbalbob
Date Posted: 03 July 2008 at 12:05am
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Hey folks. new to the site. Happen to catch this post floatin on the web, looks really cool. Then you said we could try it! I'll be willing to put the word out everywhere. I play on a pretty serious scenerio team. Got a nice forum. Do you think I could get a set for the X7? I'll take a few pics and post them too ------------- Not all who wonder are lost. |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 03 July 2008 at 11:50am
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It was an afterthought. I have had breaks in the past when my hopper has been shot in a game. They pretty much stopped after I put a neoprene cover over the hopper.
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Posted By: Nikolai049
Date Posted: 09 July 2008 at 10:47am
Must be the Call of Duty 4 crowd rearing their ugly head.. |
Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 1:53am
That wouldn't be such a bad thing for my mods, that's for sure! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 10 July 2008 at 3:06pm
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Ok guys, good news for those with an R5 that would like to field test it. I have 2 slots left and as it has been from the beginning, all you have to do is try my mod and test it to the best of your ability. When you feel that you've tested all that you can, post up and tell everybody how it went for you. After that you enjoy the mod and tell all your pals about it.
Here's the completed field tests and current active participants. A5 Participants:(closed) 1. StormyKnight [TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 2. The Guy [TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 3. Yomillio and Matt [TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 4. Nagash1959 [TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 5. ctchofday [TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] X7 Participants:(closed) 1. Reb Cpl [TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 2. nchittendon [98OG] 3. greasegun1964 [98OG reviewed] 4. KRA SHARPSHOOTER [A5OG reviewed] 5. Ghost Rider [A5OG] Ricochet R5 Participants: 1. oldpnoob [TIPPMANN Forum reviewed] 2. shartley [A5OG reviewed] 3. Priest [A5OG] 4. Beserker [A5OG] 5.  ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCZWhJCF6Ig">
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