new(er) car (for son)
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Topic: new(er) car (for son)
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Subject: new(er) car (for son)
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:07am
Just over a month ago my son rolled his truck, subsequently it was wrote off (I'll post the pics later). He ended up with minor injuires; broken ribs, cracked jaw and cuts/bruises. Since then trying to find something to replace it with a couple things in mind; good mileage and comfortable as he is 6'6". One of the customers at my shop mentioned he is going through some rough times and probably would be selling his Subaru WRX. He phoned last week and we looked at it and will be buying it Thursday. I think it's 2002, and Sean really looked after this thing - it has 61,360 kms on it. He has lots of little extras, 2 complete sets of tires/rims. TONS of leg/headroom and pretty decent mileage, the only thing is my son hasn't driven standard much so he will drive my truck and we'll practice after work until he's comfortable.     ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:11am
| looks like a nice car. i too have to learn how to drive stick shift sooner or later...my buddy tried teaching me a little but he got to impatient with it. one thing i never understood is the engineering that goes into cars like those in the sense that they look small and end up having a lot of room inside. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:20am
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I just want to point out that the insurance on that thing would be astronomical. Good lookin. ------------- 
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Posted By: tippmannfreak
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:21am
| i think this car might roll a little easier than the truck. i hope he's careful. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:28am
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How old is he? I don't know the story behind how your son rolled the truck, but if it was from reckless driving I wouldn't buy him something that looks like a race car. Subaru is an excellent car though. ------------- 
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Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:57am
| I wish you were my dad..... |
Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:23pm
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Lower center of gravity=less rollage. ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 12:33pm
I got an insurance quote on an sti once. it was going to be around 4k/year ------------- 
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Da Hui wrote:Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 1:27pm
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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 2:03pm
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Sweet ride.
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Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 2:15pm
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:01pm
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I remember that truck box build thread like it was yesterday.
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:03pm
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He'll be 19 in August, he hit a patch of ice, the arse end of the truck kicked around and it flipped, experience was definitely a factor. To clarify, he'll be making payments and if he doesn't I'll keep it/sell it. His insurance will be higher than normal due to his accident.
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Posted By: +DreX+
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:07pm
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Are you sure you can trust your son with this? He rolls a truck, gets a newer and better car, for free. His mentality is, I just trashed a car, making my insurance rates go up higher, and got a new car. Will he have respect for it? No. Its a great car, but you should really give this some thought, If he paid for most of it with his money, then I think he'd have a bit more respect for it. Replacing parts is not fun. If you can take the responsibility to drive a nice car, then you should be able to foot the bill. Not Trying to be negative, nor envious, It's somewhat revolting to me the mentality that this boy is going to be learning. I had to buy my SUV, and it cost me an arm and a leg. Not to mention I had to learn about credit and a whole host of other things that will benefit me in the future. Edit: My $0.02. If I were you, I'd snag that for myself.  ------------- Insert Fail Here |
Posted By: Bounty
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:10pm
| AWESOME cars, I'd love one to play around with. I suggest placing the intercooler in the lower grill though, better air flow. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:13pm
My dream car (aside from a Mustang V8) is an '07 STI in white. -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 3:35pm
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:29pm
| Lucky bastard, I'd love that car. |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:41pm
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My dream car is an sti, the only problem is finding one around here that hasn't been beat to piss.
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Posted By: +DreX+
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:43pm
Show's how slow I am at typing, I didn't bother to pay attention to the "a new post has been added" message.  ------------- Insert Fail Here |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:52pm
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Hey Johnny did all those subs get wrecked when the truck got flipped.
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Posted By: paintball437085
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 4:56pm
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Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 5:08pm
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I don't know man. That is an awesome car, but it's super fast and turbo charged. If your son can't keep a pickup under control, I'de be a bit leery about getting him this. This is a rally car and hits 140+ out of the show room. If my kid wrecked, I wouldn't be pushing for this, but hey, that's just my opinion. Sexy car though, and I love wrx's. I wanted to buy one instead of my jeep, but it's too hard to find one that hasn't been beat to piss.
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Posted By: cdacda13
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 5:25pm
A pick-up truck is hard to control once it gets into a slide. With basically no weight over the rear axle, once the back end kicks out and slides, its hard to correct. I remember hearing that WRX's need to have the timing chain replaced ever 70,000 miles. I would check into that more if I were you because its near that time. Its a very nice looking car. The AWD on it will help out on all those snowy/icy days. I'd say go for it because he is making payments (and insurance I hope too) he will respect the car more. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 5:30pm
AWD > Anything in Rain/Snow As long as this kid can resist the temptation to haul an unbelievable amount of ass, its actually a pretty good car for him. -------------
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 5:50pm
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I wish my parents loved me that much.
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Posted By: Alberto411
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 8:44pm
Re: the 140 thing, I hope you mean kilometers/hour which is only ~87 MPH which this car can do, certainly not 140MPH 'out of the showroom.' This is a WRX, not an STi, and even then it is tough to realistically get to 140MPH. I have a WRX and I'm limited to ~135MPH, been there done that. But regarding the latter part of your post, I'd have to agree. This car does look like it has an odd array of both classy and not-so-classy upgrades. Here in the States the 02-03 WRX 'bugeye' runs between 10-12000USD depending on the condition. If you can find one for lower hours on the clock and in stock condition, I'd go for it something like that over this example. If you are still interested in Subarus, which are very durable, reliable and SAFE, I'd look into something that does not have many mods especially if it is for your son. This will take care of the reliability AND the responsibility factors respectively. Again, I don't know your son, but I'm inclined to think he's a younger buck who may need more driving experience than what looks like more of a semi-project-car as in this case. If you have any more questions, feel free to ask, I've had my 02 WRX for ~4 years and I'll be glad to help you. EDIT...
Insides of a Subaru EJ205[T] motor used in WRXs 02-05. 
The WRX has a belt that the owner's manual says should be replaced at 105k miles. I'd probably look into it between 90 and 100k just to be safe. Most people replace both the timing belt and oil pump at the same time as it will be easier. Although I've never driven in the snow/ice, I'd have to agree. I've heard that snow tires are still needed over regular all-season tires. ------------- WRX by 4, GSXR by 2 "I came, I saw, I lurked..." - Me |
Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:01pm
135 and 140 are close enough, you get the point. It's a fast car with little to no mods. -------------
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:01pm
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His subs and amps weren't physically damaged at all, I was impressed by that, although I suspect there may be some damage internally. I was a little freaked because the police officer who phoned mentioned his seatbelt broke; I removed it and re-installed it where the shoulder strap mounts to get the sub-boxes back in. It actually broke where it mounts in the cab floor, which is odd. We had to break the boxes apart to get the subs out which was too bad but overall he did ok, he got just over $5000 for the truck, and got to keep the stereo. Here's a couple of pics of the truck, although it's a shame to see it written off, it did a good job of protecting him and his cousin all things considered.   ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:02pm
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Posted By: bravecoward
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:08pm
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snow in may?!
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:10pm
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Very nice Subaru. Too bad about the truck.. I could see how that could have happened... and it could have happened to anyone. My s-10 handles well on ice and it pretty fun to play with... Just throw a couple hundred pounds over the rear axel. your son should enjoy the WRX. Just stress to him that it's a privelage for you to let him drive it... |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 9:55pm
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Well, in that case you should hook me up with 1 to 2 of those subs, because there is know way he can fit all those in the subby.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 10:37pm
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Looks like a bad wreck. My friend just rolled his truck. Rolled over and landed back on his wheels. Hood and bed are smashed but the cab never hit the ground. I still can't imagine the angle he must have rolled at... -------------
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:14pm
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damn, he's pretty lucky. That WRX is a beauty though. |
Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 21 May 2008 at 11:31pm
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How much for a sub haha?
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Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 12:59am
If you lived close I know he'd give a good deal, to ship them would be expensive, they are heavy. He says now 2 of the subs are broken, I'm guessing he means the magnets because I didn't see any rips or other damage externally.
Yes, it's still a weird time of the year and we still get snow at night quite often in May as it still hovers around zero some nights. ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 12:22pm
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Johhny,
If your son screws that car up, if he even so much as gets a deep scratch in the paint, I will personally come up there and beat the living snot out of him (with your permission) and take over the payments myself. Round-Eye WRXs are a thing of beauty. Anything past the '03 model year just don't do it for me. I had an '03 2.5RS in Blue Ridge Pearl that I still wish I hadn't traded away. I love my Mazda 6s, but it doesn't ride like that subie did. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 3:21pm
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^^ haha pretty much what the seller told him, and what I told him. It was well looked after and I think he realizes half the fun can be maintaining it. Because he's not ready to drive it alone, I'll drive it for a week or two which I'm really looking forward too.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 3:27pm
I still can't believe what they did to them... http://www.subaru.com/shop/overview.jsp?model=IMPREZAWRX&trim=STI - http://www.subaru.com/shop/overview.jsp?model=IMPREZAWRX&tri m=STI Visually they cant touch the 04's and earlier, I don't know why they changed the style so much. Huge dissapointment seeing that, considering it's main rival, the Evo now looks like this: 
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 4:21pm
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The '07s where my favorite model. The new Evo is beautiful. That will be my next car (if of course I can afford one). -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 4:33pm
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What's so funny is that the new Evo looks more like the old 22B STi body than the new Subies do.
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Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 4:35pm
Agreed, chewp. I can't believe they ruined the WRX just as the best Evo even comes out. One of the worst company decisions I've seen. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules>
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 4:38pm
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I'd take an STi over an EVO any day - particularly the new EVOs, that are particularly unattractive. I agree that the redesigned WRX is not an improvement, but the new EVO is downright ugly. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 4:47pm
I disagree on the Evo being ugly, but fully agree I'd take the STI. If you watch Top Gear you should see the episode where they compare the STI and the Evo. They're neck in neck, but I think the verdict is that the Evo makes a little more sense to buy, but they still decided the STI is better, because every single time they had to choose, they always took the STI, they just liked it more. |
Posted By: +DreX+
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 5:30pm
Top gear rules. They're FoMoCo Focus ST review was tops. I lol'd. ------------- Insert Fail Here |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 6:03pm
| Top Ground Gear Force has had me in tears each time I've seen it. |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 6:35pm
| I like the look of the new ego that i would probably choose that. If I was doing rallies, I would do sti because of the weight distribution. |
Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 7:33pm
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 7:46pm
"You can't garden with a shotgun!" "I'd rather he had a hammer..." ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 8:12pm
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When did Jeremy Clarkson become Toolman Tim? ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 8:34pm
I watched that episode with my girlfriend, and when they FIRST started and he got the poles to dig a trench, she said "aww thats so mean, digging up his lawn" it was really hard not to spoil how much worse it got for her. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:21pm
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FYI: top gear is a bunch of idiots. Who do nothing and bash U.S. cars. Most known example : They race a mustang GT against a horse. But it's actually a 6 cylinder not the V8 GT which they say it is. Theres features on the car that give away that it's not a V8 you kind of have to know the mustangs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_Kfvx-9Lk4 - Link -------------
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:22pm
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Translation: Top Gear bashes Amcars, therefore I do not like Top Gear. That seems a tad sensitive, don't you think? ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:28pm
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No, I didn't say I don't like top gear but mis informing people on a huge show like that is a pretty big thing.
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:32pm
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It's a comedy show. They race cars against tables. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:34pm
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It's not all comedy...
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:36pm
| Yeah, the show is strictly opinion and entertainment, lighten up. To be fair though, if you're constantly exposed to top of the line imports, of course you're going to think north american cars suck. The only thing they're good for is going in a straight line quickly, leave the rest up to everyone else. |
Posted By: Roll Tide
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:42pm
One of Jeremy Clarkson's favorite cars is the Ford GT. Also, most American cars do suck compared to what he gets to drive on a daily basis. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules>
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 9:48pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTlQk9AoTa0 - It's even a 4 banger. -------------
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:13pm
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I don't think anybody doubts that Mustangs have steering wheels... It's all about the comparitive worth. Is that your car in the video? ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:16pm
Are you willing to put serious cold hard cash on that? Because, if you recall, Ford export models differ greatly from their domestic badging stateside. If you watch their review of the Focus ST, it is most decidedly not the same Focus that you get in a package over here. For example, the high-end Focus stateside is a 4cyl 2L Duratec that is petrol-only. Meanwhile, the Focus series across the pond goes all the way up to the 2.5L Duratec (which you find in the Mazda 6i Mazda 3, and Volvo S-40) and also has the option of the Duratorq turbo-driven diesel in a range from 1.6L-2.0L. American cars by and large do suck because we've never demanded that they do anything other than suck fuel and go in a straight line very quickly. Our automakers, as well as foreign makers, have been more than happy to cram the same 1960's tech down our throats for the past 40 years while selling the better products overseas where they get more money. Ford does it, Dodge does it, Nissan does it, Mazda does it, Subaru does it, heck, there isn't a single "not guilty" in the bunch. Only recently have people begun to understand that going fast in a straight line means jack-all if the car sucks to drive any other way. I'll keep my low-curb-weight imports with excellent power-to-weight ratios and superior suspension and steering systems. You can have all the p.o.s. 'stangs you can handle. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:20pm
| Tallen I think I'm aroused. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:24pm
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Hard to disagree, Tallen. I find Volvo stationwagons to handle better than any Mustang I have driven. And Mustangs are among the better-handling American cars out there. Of course, in a place where the two most popular forms of racing are (1) going straight, and (2) going in an oval, it isn't much of a surprise. In their defense, though, real-world driving in most of the US is far better suited to DeTrevni's cars than to Enzo's cars. Roads here are a little different from the roads in Europe or Japan. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:43pm
Very true, when you take a look at the interstate highway system (which Ike modeled after the autobahn) you've essentially got a bunch of (more or less) straight lines that connect the various cities in the nation together. However, I grew up in the mountains where handling reigns supreme. For me, Torque+Handling=Mr.MessyPants  I used to get stuck behind V8 mustangs on the hills back home. No low-end torque, it's all in the high-range. That, and the thin air screwed with the carb on the older ones. Flat-4 direct injected coil-ignition AWD is the ONLY way to go in the mountains.------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 10:49pm
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I have found that american cars suck hard, all my friends foreign cars blow the doors off the handling on the american cars, and for me it all about handling. Because sure, you can go really fast if you hit a strait away, but if you have to slow down that speed hardly means anything. Today for instance a kid in my neighborhood, owns an 06 mustang, and he way trying to run down and catch me and a friend. My friend owns a 96 maxima with new suspension and all the goodies. Long story short, we hit a strait away, the kid in the mustang was gaining on us until we came up and took the turn then bam we accelerated out of the turn and were gone.
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:26pm
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<3 my Volvo S60. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 22 May 2008 at 11:35pm
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 5:23am
I'm sorry you just contradicted yourself. "Ike" Modeled the interstate in the fact, that he realized it would be an economic gain to our society. But "us" Americans made straight lines (highways) to save costs. While the autobahn has more twist and turns to blend into the countryside. And have a more scenic view, "in which Hitler wanted to show off the beautiful countryside. But soon after we built the interstate, we realized long straight highways caused highway hypnosis. Which caused drivers to fall asleep. So yes your correct about connecting cites etc. But everything is false. -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 6:56am
Yay, reference! Though you really do have it right. My car is GREAT where I live. I don't know about Europe though. But for me, there is NO experience like driving a classic. Especially a big lumbering one like mine. I'll tell a true story of inspiration: I looked out the window, and was met by clear blue sky. Perfect. The garage door churned open, and light flooded over the Detroit steel. I gingerly grabbed the door handle, depressing the release with my thumb. The heavy door swung open as I slid into the beefy driver's side bucket. The vinyl was warm, and the springs of the seat compressed beneath me. It feels as though it's about time to replace them. The door slammed shut with a satisfying metallic thud. I checked the mirrors, and satisfied with my view, I slid the key into the ignition. My foot depressed the gas pedal, choking the carb, and I twisted the key. The starter painfully whined for a few seconds as the motor tried to turn over. I smiled to myself. It's about time we swapped that old carb for that nice Edelbrock sitting on our work bench. I turned they key again, and with a determined roar, the old cat rumbled to life, determined to not be beat. I could feel the motor rumbling just as much as I could hear it. I pulled the shifter into reverse, and the lumbering beast rolled out of the cramped garage. I rolled down my window, wrapped my fingers around the old wheel, threw the transmission into drive and gave the old girl some fresh air. The cement rolled beneath us, and the world blurred outside of the windows, but we stood still. In my mirror, I could see the front end of an old Eclipse gaining on us abnormally fast. It pulled up next to me, and matched my speed for a second or two, and without looking at me, the driver floored it and it zoomed away. The mouse was challenging the cat. It's okay, driver; the road is yours. Cloud nine floats five above the limit, and that's all she needs. And that's how I feel driving that car. I just can't get that feeling out of a tuner/ricer/whatever. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 10:20am
Someone needs to take a look at the infrastructural details of the US highway system then.
If you look at the initial roadbed width, overpass height, and speed minimums for the US Interstate system, they follow within inches of the German Autobahn system. The use of highly-banked turns which allow a "hands-free" turning ability in mountainous terrain (the driver can literally take his/her hands off the wheel and the car will stay on the road in the turn) also draws from the initial design of the autobahn. Government-supplied and staffed rest-areas were also pulled directly from the Autobahn system. If you want me to dig back through all my notes and find a lot more references with citations, I'd be more than willing to once this weekend is over (I'll be working my butt off at the restaurant). Oh, and btw, the Wiemar Republic started and completed the first sections of the Autobahn. Hitler had little to do with it's construction and planning other than using a CCC style program to provide unemployed Germans with jobs continuing the Wiemar Republic's already working project. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 3:41pm
Yeah, because Tallen has ever been wrong about anything 
But yeah, personally the best feeling I've got from driving is in our Corolla. I've driven many, many other cars and none (to me) have the same tight, zippy feel of it. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 7:09pm
I always liked my old Camry. The ECT function in that thing made it guzzle fuel when it was on, but boy-oh-boy did it ever go! The fact that the corolla follows suit very closely means that I can understand what you mean choop! As for the supposed wealth of knowledge I possess... well, if I kept all my old issues of Nat'l Geo, Smithsonian Magazine, Make, Scientific America, etc. You could probably build a small house by stacking them properly with a little gorilla glue. I LOVE to read/learn. If a day goes by that I don't find something that makes me go "huh?! who'd have thought!?" then it isn't a good day in my book. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 7:12pm
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 7:28pm
Gas+metal+microwave=Boom?!!! ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 23 May 2008 at 8:32pm
I know exactly what you mean. I'm by no-means as devoted as you, but if I get even remotely interested in something, I'll research the living hell out of it so I know as much as I can about it. Helps me make better choices when its buying/ trying something. |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 5:13pm
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I know that foreign cars are slowly starting to impress me more. My family is a big anti-foreign car family(besides me and my sister). They dont understand the whole, Ford is made overseas, and Toyota in the US. Right now, I have a Mustang engined Ford Explorer Sport(2 Door). 4 wheel drive, fast and tiny for an SUV. I only get like 12 MPG because I drive like a nut. Its going to be time to get a new vehicle soon, and I really want a AWD Car because im in NE Ohio. I would LOVE a Subaru WRX/older Audi or something, but I know it wont happen, ill get stuck with an American SUV again. While I know that everything I want would most likely be in an gas effective foreign car, theres nothing like a big V8, no one can say they dont like the sound it puts off. And, quite a few American cars have that. Thats what a lot of Americans want, that true V8, but just cant afford it now with gas. And the good-handling smaller engined foreign cars are looking good to everyone now.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 5:46pm
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Interesting thing is, Mean Man, the Explorer/Explorer Sport-Trac V-6 is the FoMoCo "Cologne" V-6 which is built entirely in Cologne Germany (and has been since it's inception in the late 60's. If you're driving the V-8 Modular 2-valve-per-cylinder engine, then yes, it is made in the US.
Personally, I am a huge fan of their newer Duratec/Cyclone V-6 engines. They were mainly developed by Porsche in the late 80's/early 90's when the engineering was sold off to Ford as Porsche continued to pursue their H-6 instead. I've got one of the 3L Duratec MZI (mazda engineering) engines in my 6s and it not only runs like a dream, it is also virtually maintenance free. Timing chain so there's less overall maintenance cost, easy to work on at home (general maintenance) and pretty darn fuel efficient (I get 28hwy and 22city) Which is funny, because I dislike American cars, but this American made engine and chassis rocks! It's almost impossible to call anything truly foreign or domestic anymore. All the parts come from wherever they can be produced for a good price while keeping quality high. It's the engineering that counts these days. And US domestic auto makers didn't catch on to that quickly enough. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 5:49pm
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Personally I think TONS of foreign cars sound just beautiful when they run.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=l6hjfbuizBo - http://youtube.com/watch?v=l6hjfbuizBo |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 7:33pm
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Well of course that will sound good. For over $600K, it better. Im sure that has more than a V8 too. But honestly, my friend wanted to put a hood scoop, wing, new rims and detail his I4, 4 door Cobalt(the friend who just totaled his cobalt by the way). He said he didnt care how it runs, only how it looks. I brought up the V8, and how it sounds and how his idea didnt really make sense. He said he will just put a bigger exhaust on it one day. I do not drive that kid home from school anymore. -------------
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 7:36pm
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The V6 Cologne SOHC engine really is great. Ive never had a problem with it. It supposely pushes out over 250 horsepower. Ford says its like 216, but online, people say Ford is wrong, and that it is far better. It sounds great too. Not the V8 rumble, but with my aftermarket exhaust on it, it certainly makes you feel good excellerating.
People must think im obsessed with sound signatures. -------------
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:06pm
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My corolla handles like a turd on wheels compared to some other cares I've driven. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:08pm
| What year is it? |
Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:28pm
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2001 and another is 2004
EDIT: We have 2 different 2001 corollas. They handle better than the 2004 but the 2004 definitly has more getty-up -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:46pm
Corollas depend on what trim level you go with. The 'S' type has a much better "sport" suspension which takes a whole lot of the "splashy" feeling out of the steering (basically, stiffer rear suspension with a slightly lower front giving you better over-steer characteristics rather than the standard under-steer that you get with the economy suspension that is in the standard corolla package). Wow, I think my parenthesis was longer than the original statement on that one. I've just about got the GF convinced that the Mini Cooper S is the way to go for our next vehicle. She has no clue how hard I will be driving that thing. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:48pm
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lol mini cooper
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:48pm
But Mean Man! Didn't you know! Ground Effects and a Body Kit add like 20kajillion Bhp to any car! Heck, a transformers sticker on the rear window adds like 25Bhp just by itself! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 8:50pm
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You'll laugh until it zooms by you. The Cooper S is a beast. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 9:19pm
Agreed, I'd totally drive one. Zippy as hell. I decided to snap a pic of our corolla 
and while I was at it 
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 9:36pm
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Zomg choop(or atleast someone is his family) drives a Dodge. I'm sure Mini Coopers could be zippy, but everyone will be thinking its not your(as in both of you) but moreso her car -------------
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 9:38pm
Maybe for a base model, but 100% of the people I know that drive a Cooper S are men, and many don't let their womens anywhere near their toy. It's a favorite for track days and autocrosses, too. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 10:33pm
My dad bought it, mostly to haul firewood and such. I take it over to my friends place when someone needs the car in the morning or something. It's the first non-toyota we've had since I was a little kid. My sister just bought an audi quatro too actually. |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 10:45pm
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I almost had an orgasm. Evo X  -------------
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Posted By: xXK1CK1NVV1NGXx
Date Posted: 24 May 2008 at 11:54pm
I absolutely love the mini cooper s's, and since we are on the topic of handling I just replaced the 2 rear shocks on my truck tonight, and will hopefully doing the two front soon. ------------- <Sig violation, Section 1> |
Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 12:16am
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wow |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 12:23am
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^^^ I just think those things are drop dead... ...ugly. The 8 and 9 (virtually the same car) were my favorites. Plus I'd take a Subie WRX STi over an Evo. :) ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 12:14pm
Sorry to get back to this but on that particular car, yes. This has been debated time and time again on a few car forums and it's settled it's a V6, hell theres even a clip you can hear it revving and it's clear it's a V6. Not to mention the single exhaust. They have had the 4.6 V8 on their show before and it's a huge difference. Notice the badges, fog lights, wheels and other stuff. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0H_As-sLkQA - Link -------------
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 12:44pm
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Having watched both videos, here's the question. When in video number 1 did they ever state that they were using a V-8 outfitted mustang? ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: JohnnyCanuck
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 2:42am
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Well, I've been driving the car myself for most 4 days and teaching my son how to drive standard in the evenings. He's gotten real good and sadly I have to go back to my vehicle. It is a dream to drive, I still can't get over the leg and head room in this thing, it has awesome brakes, the steering is absolutely tight; to zip around some of the hills here is such a blast. The previous owner threw in the stock rims with brand new winter tires, 3 complete sets of Helix fuel injectors, all the way up to 660cc which he used with a stage 4 turbo; turbo he kept. Also came with 2 MAP computers for setting up things like turbo stages, fuel etc; he has 5 programs loaded and you can toggle thru them if you choose, I didn't really notice too much difference between them. I was pulled over for not having a front license plate, which is required by law so we'll have to figuire out a way to mount it that doesn't fugly it up. This vehicle could last him a long time if he looks after it, and I hope he does, I enjoy maintaining my vehicles, its half the fun of owning one, and I've had my current truck now for over 18 years and although it's not pretty, it's still rock solid. Here's a few more pictures taken in the parking lot where we practiced; you can see the switch for toggling different MAP programs on the left lower dash,     ------------- Imagine there’s a picture of your favourite thing here. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 2:56am
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So jealous... I think you pulled the same crap my dad did when he bought me the Buick. He knew dern good and well I'd love the thing enough to not eff it up, and he'd get to drive it basically whenever he wanted. I'm on to your underhanded scheming! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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