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Topic: When did Indiana Jones
Posted By: jmac3
Subject: When did Indiana Jones
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 7:08pm
Become the X-Files?




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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 7:09pm
I lol'd hard when my manager told me about the new movie.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 7:11pm
haha.

I'm watching it right now and all I can ay is "where is Mulder? That movie comes out later in the summer"


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 7:25pm
I saw it today.

It was disappointing but was pretty decent anyways.

Aliens aren't any more mythical than anything allready seen in Indie movies. (hundreds of year old man... removal of heart with hand while still alive... etc...)

I hate Shia LaBeouf so much. He basically ruined the movie for me. I was entirely pissed off when he showed up on screen.

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 7:43pm
I really hope they weren't serious in the implication that LaBeouf might become the next Indiana Jones.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

I really hope they weren't serious in the implication that LaBeouf might become the next Indiana Jones.



Ummm I hope not....

I don't mind him as a tag along like this one, but to take the place would be ridiculous


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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 9:15pm
LaBeouf has done a good job in a couple other movies (Distubia, Transformers) but I really don't think that he is right for this movie.

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Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 9:17pm
havent seen it yet. I like Shia as an actor to. 

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 11:13pm
I like shia, and I liked him in this movie as well. I think George Lucas is falling off of his rocker, though. It may not be any more mithical, but they never really hinted towards extra terrestrials.

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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 25 May 2008 at 11:18pm
Yeah because Steven Spielberg has never done an Alien movie.


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Posted By: mamasboi
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 1:31am

Originally posted by jmac3 jmac3 wrote:

Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:

I really hope they weren't serious in the implication that LaBeouf might become the next Indiana Jones.



Ummm I hope not....

I don't mind him as a tag along like this one, but to take the place would be ridiculous

from wat i have heard that the only way he was doing another indiana jones only if harrison ford was going to be indiana jones



Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 2:11am
Ford has already said he has signed on for two more "Indy" movies which gradually "pass the torch" from Harrison Ford's "Indiana Jones" to Shia LeBouef's "Mutt".

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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 4:25am
Hmm...it's a 50/50 shot of survival. As long as they leave out E.T. I might see them just because. However, I am stubborn in my ways and don't want to "replace" a classic such as Ford in the Indy series.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 8:19am
Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Ford has already said he has signed on for two more "Indy" movies which gradually "pass the torch" from Harrison Ford's "Indiana Jones" to Shia LeBouef's "Mutt".


I think I just threw up in my mouth.

When will people realize that LeBouef isin't able to play any other characters than the stereotypical idiot teenager that he plays in every movie?

They should have just left the series where it was.

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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 10:02am
Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:


I think I just threw up in my mouth.

When will people realize that LeBouef isin't able to play any other characters than the stereotypical idiot teenager that he plays in every movie?

They should have just left the series where it was.


It's not the only childhood favorite that is getting the Viking Triathlon treatment. (for those short on their history, that's Rape, Pillage, then plunder. Don't get it backward or it gets messy)

The Terminator pre/sequals are already shooting in New Mexico with Christian Bale as John Connor in the post-apocalyptic setting of 2018, and yes the Governator is making an appearance in these as well.

Aliens and Predator have been serially raped over the past decade to produce the festering piles called "Alien Resurrection," "Alien Vs Predator," and "Alien Vs. Predator: Requiem." And both Scott and McTiernan's visions will continue to be plundered for whatever can make a quick buck for years to come.

Even James Cameron is jumping on the "I've run out of ideas" boat and is co-writing/directing a live action version of "Battle Angel Alita" (One of the first popular Anime Series to be subbed/dubbed into english in the 80's).

I have no faith in Hollywood anymore. Soon, I expect to see 1,000 person song and dance scenes break out in the middle of every movie.

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Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 7:47pm
Originally posted by Evil Elvis Evil Elvis wrote:

Yeah because Steven Spielberg has never done an Alien movie.


i want to see it so i can create my own opinions on it. it looks good and bad at the same time. weird.

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 9:09pm
Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Originally posted by carl_the_sniper carl_the_sniper wrote:


I think I just threw up in my mouth.

When will people realize that LeBouef isin't able to play any other characters than the stereotypical idiot teenager that he plays in every movie?

They should have just left the series where it was.


It's not the only childhood favorite that is getting the Viking Triathlon treatment. (for those short on their history, that's Rape, Pillage, then plunder. Don't get it backward or it gets messy)

The Terminator pre/sequals are already shooting in New Mexico with Christian Bale as John Connor in the post-apocalyptic setting of 2018, and yes the Governator is making an appearance in these as well.

Aliens and Predator have been serially raped over the past decade to produce the festering piles called "Alien Resurrection," "Alien Vs Predator," and "Alien Vs. Predator: Requiem." And both Scott and McTiernan's visions will continue to be plundered for whatever can make a quick buck for years to come.

Even James Cameron is jumping on the "I've run out of ideas" boat and is co-writing/directing a live action version of "Battle Angel Alita" (One of the first popular Anime Series to be subbed/dubbed into english in the 80's).

I have no faith in Hollywood anymore. Soon, I expect to see 1,000 person song and dance scenes break out in the middle of every movie.


I didn't know they were making more terminators. I could go for another terminator but only if Arnold starred in it. Despite the fact that I saw them about a thousand times, they were pretty crappy movies. And Arnold is one of the worst "popular" actors ever.

Predator got raped in the sequal unlike aliens which remained decent for a few movies. I was unaware of more movies but i'm not surprised.

I have hated hollywood lately. Though there are still good movies coming out once in a while that surprise me.

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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 10:13pm
I'm not really sure why people are almost wanting to dislike this movie. In any comparison to the previous movies, it's an unlikely hero (part time teacher/part time action junkie) searching to find things that are mythical and utterly unrealistic. The addition of a sidekick was inevitable and seen in Temple of Doom. Other than a few somewhat cheesy parts (like in every one of the previous movies) I thought it was pretty good. I'd go see it again with someone who hasn't seen it yet.


Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 10:20pm
I'm not seeing it because of Lebuff. I heard they had to paint a beard/5:00 shadow on him because he couldn't grow one...

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 26 May 2008 at 11:43pm
Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

I'm not really sure why people are almost wanting to dislike this movie. In any comparison to the previous movies, it's an unlikely hero (part time teacher/part time action junkie) searching to find things that are mythical and utterly unrealistic. The addition of a sidekick was inevitable and seen in Temple of Doom. Other than a few somewhat cheesy parts (like in every one of the previous movies) I thought it was pretty good. I'd go see it again with someone who hasn't seen it yet.


I have a feeling that the real fans of the old ones didn't like this one and people who weren't into the first ones as much loved this.

Seems to be the reaction that I am getting anyways.

Nobody is complaining about the things you mentioned. (nobody here anyways)

The four major things that just killed the movie for me are:

1)Shia LaBeouf

2)The inclusion of the alien ship. It was stupid, entirely pointless, and could have been taken out from the movie for the amount of time it was on screen.

3) The stupid cliches. (eg. Their treasure WAS knowledge)

3)Shia LaBeouf

I really liked the russian spin on the nazis from the previous movies. (done extremely well)

Also, did anyone notice during the nuclear test zone scenes (which were about an unrealistic as the alien scenes but whatever) that the house he ran into looked exactly like his boyhood house shown in the tird movie?

I was actually expecting him to run in and see Sean Connery. (I won't spoil it but I was disappointed)

Originally posted by .357 Magnum .357 Magnum wrote:

I'm not seeing it because of Lebuff. I heard they had to paint a beard/5:00 shadow on him because he couldn't grow one...


If you close your eyes on the scenes that he was in, than it was a half decent movie.


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Posted By: Kingtiger
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 3:02am
I loved the original 3 and thought  this one was pretty good, minus Lebeouf.


Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 6:45am
Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

I'm not really sure why people are almost wanting to dislike this movie. In any comparison to the previous movies, it's an unlikely hero (part time teacher/part time action junkie) searching to find things that are mythical and utterly unrealistic. The addition of a sidekick was inevitable and seen in Temple of Doom. Other than a few somewhat cheesy parts (like in every one of the previous movies) I thought it was pretty good. I'd go see it again with someone who hasn't seen it yet.


There really isn't cheesy parts i the other movies.....

Don't tell me I am just remembering it as a kid, because I watched them like last week.

Also, I liked this movie just the Alien thing was kind of ridiculous.


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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 9:33am

Originally posted by Kingtiger Kingtiger wrote:

I loved the original 3 and thought  this one was pretty good, minus Lebeouf.

Yeah, I'm a huge fan, even saw the third one in the theaters. There are definitely cheesy parts in all three, but I'm such a fan it doesn't bother me.



Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 9:51am
I still haven't seen it, and I'm kicking myself right in the ass for that. I've been trying to avoid commentaries and reviews so I can judge for myself.
 

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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 9:54am

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

I still haven't seen it, and I'm kicking myself right in the ass for that. I've been trying to avoid commentaries and reviews so I can judge for myself.
 

Definitely do that. At least make up your own opinion about it. I went it trying to find reasons to not like it because I had previously read a lot of negative stuff. When I realized that it was just another Indy movie, but with more CGI, I started to like it.



Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 10:42am
I don't think it was a bad movie, just a bad Indiana Jones movie.


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 10:58am
Originally posted by reifidom reifidom wrote:

I don't think it was a bad movie, just a bad Indiana Jones movie.


The art of movie making itself has changed a ton since the original three came out.

Camera and shooting technology, CGI, all of it have basically killed the way that the old movies were made. Not to mention the tastes of moviegoers overall have completely changed, and the guys who make movies today know that and are trying to maximize their dollar.

Look at Star Wars, it did the same thing. The old ways are dead, the classic awesomeness that was the original trilogy gave in to CGI, new methods of movie making and a new target audience, and the subsequent movies were a joke.

Indiana Jones won't be any different. "Newness" dictates from the starting gate that it won't be in the same class as the first three, and I've come to accept that right out of the box.




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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 11:01am
Originally posted by tallen702 tallen702 wrote:

Soon, I expect to see 1,000 person song and dance scenes break out in the middle of every movie.


You gave me a flashback with the above statement.

I made the mistake of reading a sci-fi novel while I was recuperating from my first back surgery.  (It wasn't related to "Aliens" or "Predators," but it did deal with an alien invasion that changed people from the inside to the outside.)  I'd also had complications in recovery that required them to put the breathing tube back in when I was about half awake and leave it in until I was nearly fully conscious.  Additionally, I was heavily medicated and hitting the "booster button" for the pain meds nearly continuously.

When you combined this all together (the book, the breathing tube experience and the medication) I was somewhat confused.  During what I thought were lucid moments I would repeatedly read the same page then look at nurses and seriously wonder if they were aliens in disguise.  During one less lucid moment I had a hallucination that started with me thinking that the medical staff had put the breathing tube back in when I was napping but when I opened my eyes it was actually one of the face-hugger things from the Alien movies.  The weird part was there was a chorus line of additional eggs arrayed around me with the face-huggers half way out of them and they were swaying in unison while singing about putting a baby alien in my stomach. (I remember being surprised at how melodious they were.)

The next day, when I was a little more aware, I decided to finish the book after the IV was removed.


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 11:49am
I'm not gonna lie Mack, if that be true then it's awesome.

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 12:47pm
It be true.

It also be part of the reason that I avoid pain medications completely now.


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Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 1:02pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by reifidom reifidom wrote:

I don't think it was a bad movie, just a bad Indiana Jones movie.


The art of movie making itself has changed a ton since the original three came out.

Camera and shooting technology, CGI, all of it have basically killed the way that the old movies were made. Not to mention the tastes of moviegoers overall have completely changed, and the guys who make movies today know that and are trying to maximize their dollar.

Look at Star Wars, it did the same thing. The old ways are dead, the classic awesomeness that was the original trilogy gave in to CGI, new methods of movie making and a new target audience, and the subsequent movies were a joke.

Indiana Jones won't be any different. "Newness" dictates from the starting gate that it won't be in the same class as the first three, and I've come to accept that right out of the box.




im sorry but thats not really true...just because of the technological advances in film making, that doesn't necessarily mean the movies are much different than the past...you can still make a crap movie with a lot of awesome special effects and camera angles...

it's much like video games...you can have an awesome looking game graphically, but if the gameplay itself sucks, the game sucks...

good movies can still be made in comparison to classics with CGI, it just seems that hollywood isn't trying as hard or isn't as creative as they once were...i didn't just dislike the new indy because it was a disgrace to the indiana jones name...hey if you wanna rip off the idea then do it...just dont make a new movie and stick an old name on it to boost sales...but besides that the movie was freakin' stupid...it made lost look like a good tv show


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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 1:16pm
Originally posted by Boss_DJ Boss_DJ wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by reifidom reifidom wrote:

I don't think it was a bad movie, just a bad Indiana Jones movie.


The art of movie making itself has changed a ton since the original three came out.

Camera and shooting technology, CGI, all of it have basically killed the way that the old movies were made. Not to mention the tastes of moviegoers overall have completely changed, and the guys who make movies today know that and are trying to maximize their dollar.

Look at Star Wars, it did the same thing. The old ways are dead, the classic awesomeness that was the original trilogy gave in to CGI, new methods of movie making and a new target audience, and the subsequent movies were a joke.

Indiana Jones won't be any different. "Newness" dictates from the starting gate that it won't be in the same class as the first three, and I've come to accept that right out of the box.




im sorry but thats not really true...just because of the technological advances in film making, that doesn't necessarily mean the movies are much different than the past.


Swing and a miss.

If this was the case, why do they remake old movies?

Movies are completely different than they were in the past. Technological advances constantly change the way movies are being made, what they look like, and their quality.

Some changes:

Color
Digital sound
Anamatronics
CGI

These changes are to ensure that in our 21st century world, we don't get "Nosferatu" when we're looking for "Blade"

Thanks to the alterations in movie technology since the last three Indy movies were made, you can't expect the new one to be in line with the original classics, and I don't, so I'm probably not going to be as disappointed in the new one as you, if at all.



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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 2:19pm

I'm still shocked that people actually find the plot of the new Indy movie actually different than the plots of the previous three. It was more similiar to Temple of Doom in plot sense, but it wasn't completely made up. They took the idea from the cult followings around the real crystal skulls.



Posted By: Boss_DJ
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 2:44pm
Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by Boss_DJ Boss_DJ wrote:

Originally posted by Reb Cpl Reb Cpl wrote:

Originally posted by reifidom reifidom wrote:

I don't think it was a bad movie, just a bad Indiana Jones movie.


The art of movie making itself has changed a ton since the original three came out.

Camera and shooting technology, CGI, all of it have basically killed the way that the old movies were made. Not to mention the tastes of moviegoers overall have completely changed, and the guys who make movies today know that and are trying to maximize their dollar.

Look at Star Wars, it did the same thing. The old ways are dead, the classic awesomeness that was the original trilogy gave in to CGI, new methods of movie making and a new target audience, and the subsequent movies were a joke.

Indiana Jones won't be any different. "Newness" dictates from the starting gate that it won't be in the same class as the first three, and I've come to accept that right out of the box.




im sorry but thats not really true...just because of the technological advances in film making, that doesn't necessarily mean the movies are much different than the past.


Swing and a miss.

If this was the case, why do they remake old movies?

Movies are completely different than they were in the past. Technological advances constantly change the way movies are being made, what they look like, and their quality.

Some changes:

Color
Digital sound
Anamatronics
CGI

These changes are to ensure that in our 21st century world, we don't get "Nosferatu" when we're looking for "Blade"

Thanks to the alterations in movie technology since the last three Indy movies were made, you can't expect the new one to be in line with the original classics, and I don't, so I'm probably not going to be as disappointed in the new one as you, if at all.



um...you completely missed the point


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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 3:32pm
Originally posted by Dune Dune wrote:

I'm still shocked that people actually find the plot of the new Indy movie actually different than the plots of the previous three. It was more similiar to Temple of Doom in plot sense, but it wasn't completely made up. They took the idea from the cult followings around the real crystal skulls.




Which is dumb because "real" crystal skulls have no tool marks from that time, but some bear tool marks from more recent times.


So therefore cult following are stupid.

I know I am just arguing nonsense....I should add I liked the movie(other than aliens).


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Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 4:13pm

Did anybody else just want to leave when they pulled that plastic and sparkle looking skull out? it looked so fake it was rediculus, and if that wasn't enough to bother you i would also like to point out the cheesy lines that Mr. Ford continued to make.

it seemed worse during the beginning and it really bothered me how corny everything he said was but eventually i think i forgot about it as it became more entertaining. I will say that speilberg just loves to throw aliens in everything he touches.

Im not sure how i felt about shia lebouf, it seemed like he had trouble staying in character, a hard doesn't take anything greeser. It kept fading as he fell back into his typical kid role and it bothered me how it kept jumping from him playing down and acting like child almost and then trying to knife Indy when he made an off comment about his mom. I don't know, i think overall i was entertained but a little disappointed. I expected worse, the trailer was horrible. oh yeah and remember shia's little tarzan bit, that was really believable! peace



Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 4:33pm
Originally posted by t_hop t_hop wrote:

it seemed worse during the beginning and it really bothered me how corny everything he said was but eventually i think i forgot about it as it became more entertaining. I will say that speilberg just loves to throw aliens in everything he touches.

Yeah, Schindler's List, Saving Private Ryan, Hook, Jaws, Jurassic Park, Munich. There were way too many aliens in those movies.

The movie, with the addition of more CGI, was a basic Indy movie.



Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 4:52pm
The setting was one of the biggest problems for me. 1957 just seems so wrong for Indiana Jones. I half expected to see Michael J. Fox in a Delorian in the background. It was a freak hybrid setting.


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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 5:02pm

Originally posted by reifidom reifidom wrote:

The setting was one of the biggest problems for me. 1957 just seems so wrong for Indiana Jones. I half expected to see Michael J. Fox in a Delorian in the background. It was a freak hybrid setting.

Ha. Yeah I wanted old school, Nazi fighting Indy for this movie, but I thought the addition of 50's style music was pretty cool.



Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 7:10pm
I'm going to be pissed when Jurassic park 4 comies out because you just know that it's going to e 100% CG.

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 7:26pm
Wasn't there already a JP 4?

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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 7:27pm
Lol no fool!

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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 7:30pm
Just checked on JP 4...

It will never be released.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 27 May 2008 at 9:15pm

I am torn on this one. Unlike most on here, I saw all three of the originals in the movie theater and am assuming I will be disappointed with the new one. Plus the fact I can't stand that little putz Shia Leboof. I am sure my 9 year old daughter will love it though. But than again, she's is dying with excitement for the release of HSM3.



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Posted By: matt06
Date Posted: 29 May 2008 at 12:40am
Saw Jones on Friday afternoon....One word.


Blah.


Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 29 May 2008 at 6:05am
ok, so i watched it tonight... it was pretty lame. the whole alien + indy wasn't working out well. the plot was awful.

i did, however, laughed really hard when they used that fake ass snake to pull him out of the sand pit.

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