Dear Apple,
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Topic: Dear Apple,
Posted By: rockerdoode
Subject: Dear Apple,
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 5:25am
 Yes, I realize this is old, but after watching the latest keynote, and staring at my iphone for the past five minutes trying not to wire a bomb inside it and sending it to Steve Jobs, I've just decided to write this. Thanks for turning a 10 year + apple loyal into a pissed off and betrayed "bitter ex". See you in hell, Steve. See. You. In. Hell. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 6:01am
| How did you not see this coming? They do this with every goddamn product. |
Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 7:34am
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 8:30am
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Are you kidding me? You expected it to be up to date and relevant forever? Tell me, who here owns a phone that is ALWAYS up to date, and never gets replaced/ upgraded?.....no-one? Hmm, thought so.
EVERY PHONE FROM EVERY COMPANY DOES THIS! So quit BAWWWWWING and man up. |
Posted By: Hairball!!!
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 11:16am
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BARREL BREAK wrote:Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 1:36pm
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It's the principal of the matter. How can you charge 700 dollars for a product when it first comes out, then drop it down to 200 dollars less than a year later? It isn't right. At least with people that bought into the HDTV hype when it first came out were compensated in some way. Not only is the whole deal kind of BS in the first place, but you get jiped either way. You either have an outdated phone that you payed way too much money for, or you get a new one, and have to pay EVEN MORE on the plan cause now it has faster internet. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 1:40pm
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 1:50pm
Tell me about it. Hah. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: *Stealth*
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 1:52pm
| Sounds like you purchased an electronic product. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 2:25pm
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Dude - Apple lives on hype. That's what they sell. Of course they charged a zillion dollars for the iPhone when it came out, despite having less functionality than older and cheaper devices, because their customers don't care about functionality. Their customers care about snazzy interfaces and sexy commercials, and having the newest kewlest thing on the block. Same with their PCs. Their boxes do less than what other people's boxes do, but do it prettier and look cooler, so they charge more. And don't even get me started on iPods... Apple is an impressive company. They have managed to convince millions of people that overpaying for sexy-looking products with generally average performance is a good thing. More power to them, but not for me. It appears you have taken the red pill. Welcome. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 2:32pm
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Yeah...I waited for four years before buying a video iPod. I still have it after three years, but it's time to upgrade, it looks like hell. They do say that everything electronic is outdated in four years, and I believe it. Never, ever, buy something first generation. Look at the 360, PS3, anything. Just keep your iPhone until you need a new one, by which point it'll be cheaper and even better. My treo does just about everything the iPhone does, and cost me $200 brand new...and unlike most people who buy smart phones, I actually use my features. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 2:38pm
Agreed 100% Even though we do have a lot of Indie listening, hipster Mac fanboys on this site who will disagree. (Had to do it  )Any background on this particular case? What is wrong with your iphone? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 3:56pm
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See, it would be fine if they kept the prices relatively the same. But now that they are only $200.... Thats more than the Ipod Touch...which i have, and I could of payed $100 less and used it as my phone. ------------- 
hybrid-sniper~"To be honest, if I see a player still using an Impulse I'm going to question their motives." |
Posted By: -ProDigY-
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:08pm
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From the moment the iPhone launched pretty much everyone knew that this would happen (which is why I've waited to buy mine). Also, I don't understand why a company you are "loyal" to releasing an improved and cheaper product would offend you so much. Would you prefer it if they came out with a crappier, more expensive version of the iPhone? ------------- 
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Posted By: Gator Taco
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:17pm
Same here. But I must say, I have no regrets about buying my Ipod Nano (2nd gen). In the year and half that I have had it I have had not a single problem. Even though i have used it in weather exceeding 110 degrees, dropped it a few times, and got it wet once, it still functions like new. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trailgator01 - last.fm |
Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:18pm
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Posted By: AfricanAmerican
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:33pm
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i'm surprised it didn't happen earlier
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 4:53pm
It's clear someone doesn't work in a design field. 
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 5:04pm
I think they purposely extended the timing of this release compared to the timing of improvements on other products. Basically, their strategy is to get people to replace their computers more often than one would if he could upgrade his own hardware. They want you to feel out of date/fashion almost immediately. With Macs, you can't buy the future standard in specs without giving them a ton of money, so it's inevitable that you will feel out of date sooner than you'd like. They extended the update on the iPhone because early adopters will be more inclined than ever to buy the next version. Had they done it a few months sooner, those people might not have been willing to ditch the old and buy the new. In the end, it's more money for them... and I'm all for that. People just need to be aware that their business strategy is based around false hype and consumer tension. ------------- 
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Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 5:09pm
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 5:11pm
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Guilty as charged. I can certainly appreciate good design, but I know to differentiate between good design and good functionality. :) ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 5:15pm
Bingo. Apple's old sales policy of appealing to a small dedicated customer base is gone and replaced with hype and fads. The trouble for them is this approach is usually short lived when it comes to computers. 3DFX and John Romero are examples of this. But thats another discussion. But in all honesty, you should have expected this. Hardware always cheapens rapidly. My processor was $250 when I bought it, a year later it was going for $60 on Newegg. To add to that the iPhone hardware is lackluster to begin with, a decrease in price was bound to happen. ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 5:20pm
| ^The initial MSRP was not based on the hardware. It was substantially raised due to the hype of the iphone launch. |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 5:24pm
That was my point  ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 5:31pm
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Umm ok first of all, yes they should have had 3g in the first gen but they didn't so they could release it in the second just like every electronic company does.
Why do you think shoppers for HD tvs are being shown 720p models instead of 1080i which is higher definition? It's so they can sell them a new tv in a couple years. Also, the price dropped $200 because apple allowed ATT to subsidize the phones purchase like every phone company does to get you on their service. That's why that razor people get with their phones is free. The phone company pays for it, so you pay them every month till you die. Have you ever looked at purchasing a new phone not from a phone company? They're retardedly expensive for that reason. ------------- 
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Posted By: XtremeBordom
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 6:51pm
Thats why you're posting on a Tippmann company owned website forum? ------------- 
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 7:00pm
Doesn't mean he's "loyal" to Tippmann. It also doesn't even mean he plays paintball anymore. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: XtremeBordom
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 7:04pm
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Thats my point. Why is he even posting on a paintball manufacturers website if he doesn't even play the sport?
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 7:10pm
Because he can? He probably used to. Half the people here don't play anymore. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: XtremeBordom
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 7:13pm
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Interesting :P
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 8:07pm
Sorry but apple is not the first or only company to do that. Let me guess, you'd buy pepsi or coke before you'd buy "life" or "presidents choice" brand right? Average/ similar product, sexier package/ bigger name and you pay WAY more. Today, I saw 12 packs of life brand drinks for $1.49, while beside it there are $6-$8 brand name drinks. It's the nature of business, and it exists in every single field. Same with starbucks, shoe companies, watch companies. Hardly something you can gripe about when you support it on a daily basis. |
Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 8:56pm
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 10:13pm
I'm talking more about the career of designing. Making a newspaper on a Windows PC is like herding cats. |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 10 June 2008 at 10:50pm
Whale, what programs are newspapers using these days to do layout? I know years ago, it seemed like Adobe Pagemaker was about the standard. |
Posted By: Cedric
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 10:24am
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Dear Apple, Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah I thought the first gen Ipods were going to be hip forever! Sincerely, Misinformed collie molester ------------- 
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 10:41am
I don't know if that's the same thing. "Pepsi" and "Coke" are a more universal brand than "Life" or "President's choice" you can walk into almost any retailer in the country and find one of these products which have inundated themselves into the societal norm. Its availability, not hype or sexiness which is the deciding factor a lot of times. I know what you're saying, I just felt like being nit-picky. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 11:15am
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Clearly Apple is not unique in this regard. And I am not even opposed to it. Heck, I own TWO Mercedes vehicles - I understand about paying for image and perceived exclusivity, but I admit to myself that a Mercedes is not three times as good as a Toyota. I know what I am paying for. What bugs me about the Apple fanboys is the self-deluded theories that their products are somehow way better than everybody else's, when generally they are not. The iPhone is the most egregious recent example of this - a device that uses old technology and has limited functionality, yet costs 3x as much as better devices, all based on a snazzy (and very cool) new interface. Apple had people convinced that the original iPhone was actually a super-duper powerful device, and the fanboys were eating it up. As for the whole "Macs for design" bit - I have no doubt that there are specific applications where Macs (or iPhones, for that matter) provide better functionality than their competitors. Different means different, which means that some aspects will be better. That said, as best as I can tell this has also been oversold. I know plenty of publishing/design companies that run exlusively on Windows/Unix platforms, and they manage just fine. Macs come pre-equipped with better design/layout software than PCs do, but it's not as if good design software isn't available for PCs. There is cultural bias in favor of Macs for this type of work, but what I hear from my publishing friends is that this is WAY oversold. I refer to http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/How_To_Run_A_Newspaper#Hardware - this random note I found on the internet on the subject as indicative of what I hear from contacts in publishing. Bottom line is that ten years ago Macs and PCs were quite different. Now they are quite similar. Standard Macs are prettier and more expensive than standard PCs, but they can both me made to do all the same things about as well. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 2:57pm
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