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Topic: Movies and Me
Posted By: DeTrevni
Subject: Movies and Me
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 12:31am

Bah. You'd think such a simple thing wouldn't affect me so much, but lo and behold. I just got back from seeing Kung Fu Panda*, and it was just the right kick to get me thinking. I've long wanted to study a form of martial art, but have been rather undecided on which. Chinese martial arts, or what we have come to (rather inaccurately) call "Kung Fu," may just be what I'd be interested in. It seems like it's something you could learn by yourself, with a little bit of research, focuses on the flow of "chi energy" (breath), is good stress relief and a way to excercise.

So in conclusion, it's rather surprising what can inspire me to do something. It just takes the right Muse. I guess this thread could be a discussion on martial arts or silly animated movies. Have at it, and good day.

*I didn't really want to, but my friend works at an Imax theater, and said we could watch it for free. Couldn't turn it down. It was a good, light-hearted movie, but I wouldn't really recommend it. It was a pretty kiddy movie (well, duh), but it kept me entertained. Pretty solid voice acting, though I wasn't really impressed with Jack Black's work.

/mini review



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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 12:37am
I shall call him squishy, and he shall be my squishy.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 12:40am

There. That covers silly animated movies.

Now for martial arts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHL2PSpecI&feature=related - These guys would kick my arse many times over by just looking at me...



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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 12:41am
Hey look, another thing you start a thread on that we all know you will never do. Sweet!

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 12:42am

YAY!

Yeah, I'll probably lose it by tomorrow, but one of these days I'll follow through with SOMETHING.



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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 12:59am
So I wish I was born as a shaolin Monk and then right around the time I was "done" training I just decided to leave and walk around and do crazy stuff all day.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJVWAvaMopE&NR=1 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJVWAvaMopE&NR=1


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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 1:15am
i did a combination of tae kwon do and BJJ for five years, I've just now stopped because I'm leaving for college.  Don't try and teach yourself...and don't think billy blanks can either.  If you wanna learn, you're gonna have to pay.  Find the local martial arts academies in your area, watch a few sessions, price it out, and make a decision.  Don't go olympic style TKD either.  If by tomorrow, you actually want to follow through, say something, and I'll explain a little more.

Here I thought this would be a legit movie thread.  I'm watching Goodfellas right now for my film study final. Awesome movie


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 2:23am
Like I said, feel free to discuss movies if you wish. :)

But yeah. My mom is actually kinda pressing me to do this. She says it's a good venue for my mind to go. She's kinda hippie-ish, so she supports it. I may just have to follow through. If I'm still interested on the morrow, I'll be sure to say so.


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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 2:30am
I don't care what movie it is, if it's on an Imax screen, it is amazing.

2x amazing if it's on the Omnimax in Portland, it's a dome, the movie goes around you.


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 2:37am
We were on like the fifth row, in the center. Amazingly close, yet far enough to not hurt your neck or head. It's like looking into a giant, awesome window to a world you'll never be in...

Imax > me.


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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 3:30pm
Behold! Interested Day 2! Am I going for a record? I think so.

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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 7:46pm
Originally posted by BARREL BREAK BARREL BREAK wrote:

I don't care what movie it is, if it's on an Imax screen, it is amazing.

2x amazing if it's on the Omnimax in Portland, it's a dome, the movie goes around you.


QFT. I saw the third Matrix movie at the Omnimax screen in Pittsburgh. It was amazing.


Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 7:52pm
So did you learn Hamster Style yet?

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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 11:34pm
Ive always wanted to learn the fighting style jet li uses, Jeet Kun Do.


Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 11 June 2008 at 11:46pm
im to neutral to learn to fight.

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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 12:04am
I'd like to learn non-martial art, advanced fighting techniques like Krav Maga and Systema. Add drunken boxing and some wushu + kung fu to that and I would be complete.


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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 1:30am
Well, I'm hoping I could find a reputable "dojo" to learn some form of kung fu in. Why am I interested in kung fu all of the sudden? Well, I'd love to get into a combat sport (martial arts, fencing, etc.), and find some sort of stress relief/"find inner peace" kind of deal, and kung fu seems to offer both. I'd try tai chi, but that's just too peaceful, and I'm very interested in judo, but there's no "inner peace" involved.

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Posted By: unvolution
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 1:46am
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

There. That covers silly animated movies.

Now for martial arts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHL2PSpecI&feature=related - These guys would kick my arse many times over by just looking at me...


another way to title this movie
ways for dumb people to break body parts/possibly kill each other
or
something me and my friends will probably try doing at some point

they forgot the giant "do not try this at home" sign in the video... i dint 4 years of wrestling... we had this thing called a bridge... you put your weight and another guys weight on your neck... think i could hang my self like those guys do... not gonna try anytime soon...

but anyways.... i really wanna learn krav maga and silat... those are 2 bamf martial arts....


now to the other topic...

i really wanna see kung fu panda... and zohan and the hulk 2..... though i dount the hulk 2 will be any good


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 2:18am
It's not really "Hulk 2." It's just a different version of "The Hulk." Has nothing to do with the other movie.

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Posted By: Gator Taco
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 10:05am
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

There. That covers silly animated movies.

Now for martial arts.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7qHL2PSpecI&feature=related - These guys would kick my arse many times over by just looking at me...



That was awesome.


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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 10:52am

Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

Ive always wanted to learn the fighting style jet li uses, Jeet Kun Do.

Then why don't you?



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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 11:56am
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by holysmartone holysmartone wrote:

Ive always wanted to learn the fighting style jet li uses, Jeet Kun Do.

Then why don't you?



I will sign up the minute I find a place that'll teach me the styles I want to learn. The problem is that it's very difficult to find reputable schools that will teach anything other than Kickboxing, Karate, Judo, or TKD. Besides the fact that these four styles seem to dominate 90% of fighting schools, searches for the other styles will still include places that do not teach them.

Those courses do contain many of the same self-defense moves as styles like Krav Maga, but are bogged down by spiritual nonsense and flashy moves that waste energy in execution.




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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 12:04pm
I have been taking on and off Tai-Chi with a co-worker for a few years. I really like how effective its on everyday confrontations at work it is and low impact it's on my bum knee.

The better part of Tai-Chi is that you

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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 12:16pm
id love to start learning MMA, i just dont have time/money/willpower.

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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 12:29pm

Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:


I will sign up the minute I find a place that'll teach me the styles I want to learn. The problem is that it's very difficult to find reputable schools that will teach anything other than Kickboxing, Karate, Judo, or TKD.

I agree that those types of schools tend to dominate (particularly strip-mall karate/TKD), but where do you live?  I don't live in a particularly large city, but have fairly easy access to Krav Maga, JKD, MMA academies, boxing gyms, etc. 



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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 1:10pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:


I will sign up the minute I find a place that'll teach me the styles I want to learn. The problem is that it's very difficult to find reputable schools that will teach anything other than Kickboxing, Karate, Judo, or TKD.

I agree that those types of schools tend to dominate (particularly strip-mall karate/TKD), but where do you live?  I don't live in a particularly large city, but have fairly access to Krav Maga, JKD, MMA academies, boxing gyms, etc. 


Im with Tolgak on this one. Im from a small town and Im lucky to find a place that teaches anything but karate.


Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 2:21pm
Originally posted by Rambino Rambino wrote:

Originally posted by Tolgak Tolgak wrote:


I will sign up the minute I find a place that'll teach me the styles I want to learn. The problem is that it's very difficult to find reputable schools that will teach anything other than Kickboxing, Karate, Judo, or TKD.

I agree that those types of schools tend to dominate (particularly strip-mall karate/TKD), but where do you live?  I don't live in a particularly large city, but have fairly easy access to Krav Maga, JKD, MMA academies, boxing gyms, etc. 



Home is Boca Raton, FL; and school is in Daytona Beach. Like I said, even if there are legit schools in the area, finding them is incredibly difficult.


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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 3:25pm
you won't find any reputable king fu place in america.  Don't waste your time.
JKD is, as Bruce Lee explained it, about finding what you're best at, and making it impossible to beat.  Finding what you're worst at, and slowly bringing it to that level.  If you're all feet, make them unbeatable.

As I said, do some research, have somebody who knows martial arts go with you and sit in at a few academies.  If you want to learn how to actually fight, find an academy that teaches both stand up and ground styles.  And don't waste your time with an academy that only does light, or shadow sparring. it's a waste of time. 


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 5:03pm

All of that was considered. I'd prefer, almost require actually, a class where I can spar with other students. It's fun, practical, and lets me know where I am. When I was like 8, I used to do karate (yeah, I know, but I was 8), got to yellow belt and quit. To this day, I don't know why...

Anyway, if the only way to learn kung fu in America is to self-teach (and I see that not being the greatest idea with me [though I could try]), I may need to stick to my judo aspirations.



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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 5:37pm
Yeah, Don't waste your time with trying to do the super amazing '**edited** hax that guy just broke a metal pole with his dong' arts, because you won't be able to do it. evar.

If I were you, I'd learn Judo, but I'd try and take some sort of Tae Kwon Do, it's a mixture of the Okinawa styles and the Korean military style, or at least the kind I practice (Chung Do Kwan).  Don't waste your time on just a ground style, because if you ever need it, chances are your fight won't come down to ground skills.
Also, if you're looking to be able to do any sort of MMA for fun, don't go AMA or ATF styles (Olympic styles).  It's basically all feet, and while the guys are absolutely amazing, it's better to know how to use your hands.
And do not. do. not. Go to an academy where the class size is like 40, and everyone wears something like an addidas uniform, because chances are it's Americanized martial arts.  Try and go as pure as you can, that's where you'll see the real stuff.

hope this helps dude, definitely stick with it, you won't regret it


Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 5:58pm

Here's my question: if, and I'm just thinking, I am truly interested in learning kung fu, what would the disadvantages of doing research, picking up books and self-teaching be? Advantages? Thanks.

And I'm not necessarily interested in cutting puppies in two with my p3n1s, I'm just very interested in the "mystical" side of it.



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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 6:13pm
I'll start with the advantages.  After some time, you'll develop some sort of understanding of the art, but your technique would be crap.  Technique is everything, and if you don't have somebody who knows exactly what's up, you just won't have it.  Call it watching Rocky, and stepping in the ring with Ali, it just won't work.  Again, the only advantage will be your knowledge base and getting the most basic understanding of what to do. 

Your disadvantages would of course be a lack of any REAL understanding of the art, your technique would be awful, and if it came down to it, with nobody to spar with in the past, your moves would fail you.  The mystical side is probably the most interesting part of any martial art, and that's why I'd say, find a place in the back alley run by a Mr. Miagi looking guy, those are honestly where you'll find the actual 'masters' of any art. 

Ever seen somebody who taught themselves to dance by watching Darren's Dance Grooves make it in the real world?  Probably not, and the same thing applies here. 
TL;DR- Shell out the time and money to find a place that's right for you, and is in the most pure form.


Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 6:19pm
I'm telling you - Hamster Style.

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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 6:40pm
Dunno what all the fuss is about for choosing styles.

I've been boxing since I was 12 and have been Doing MMA for the last 2 1/2 years.

In that time I have sparred with and fought many people with a focus in one of the other particular styles already listed.

Each martial art is usually just a focus on some aspect of fighting because it has it's roots in some ancient or mystical reason.

Truth is oriental arts are on their way out and being replaced with more practical and efficient styles.

Take it from someone who knows. Practice in boxing, wrestling, kickboxing and you'll be as well rounded as you would ever need to be.

Or you could take krav maga and look like a complete tool in a fight. Even worse if you take TKD.

LOL at TKD.

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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 6:59pm

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Dunno what all the fuss is about for choosing styles.

I've been boxing since I was 12 and have been Doing MMA for the last 2 1/2 years.

In that time I have sparred with and fought many people with a focus in one of the other particular styles already listed.

Each martial art is usually just a focus on some aspect of fighting because it has it's roots in some ancient or mystical reason.

Truth is oriental arts are on their way out and being replaced with more practical and efficient styles.

Take it from someone who knows. Practice in boxing, wrestling, kickboxing and you'll be as well rounded as you would ever need to be.

Or you could take krav maga and look like a complete tool in a fight. Even worse if you take TKD.

LOL at TKD.

I'd like to point out that I mentioned repeatedly that I'm not interested in martial arts for "self defense" purposes. I'm looking it as another outlet for my energy, stress relief and good old competition. But thatnks for your imput anyway.



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Posted By: Tical2.0
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 7:08pm
Originally posted by DeTrevni DeTrevni wrote:

Originally posted by Thor Thor wrote:

Dunno what all the fuss is about for choosing styles.

I've been boxing since I was 12 and have been Doing MMA for the last 2 1/2 years.

In that time I have sparred with and fought many people with a focus in one of the other particular styles already listed.

Each martial art is usually just a focus on some aspect of fighting because it has it's roots in some ancient or mystical reason.

Truth is oriental arts are on their way out and being replaced with more practical and efficient styles.

Take it from someone who knows. Practice in boxing, wrestling, kickboxing and you'll be as well rounded as you would ever need to be.

Or you could take krav maga and look like a complete tool in a fight. Even worse if you take TKD.

LOL at TKD.

I'd like to point out that I mentioned repeatedly that I'm not interested in martial arts for "self defense" purposes. I'm looking it as another outlet for my energy, stress relief and good old competition. But thatnks for your imput anyway.



MMA is great for stress relief and competition.



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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 7:27pm
Granted, and I feel a person of my size, with proper training (I'm 6'3" and 275) could do good at MMA. But I'd RATHER (and that's a major part of this) learn some form of martial arts.

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Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 12 June 2008 at 7:41pm

I used to take Karate with my brother. It was a World Oyama karate dojo which was based out of Tokyo the fighting style was based off of Kyokushin Karate. I of course being a stuborn kid didn't appreciate having to do countless pushups because I didn't do what I was instructed because I didn't know Japanese! My brother stuck with it and trained with sensei Saiko Shihan Yasuhiko Oyama (ya I know, its legit). Now Saiko Shihan was a man, he defied gravity and was always intense with what he did. intrwbz- "He holds the 9th degree Black Belt (Ku Dan) and is a former All-Japan Full-Contact Champion. Saiko Shihan Oyama is known throughout the world of martial arts for his expertise as a tactician, and for his superb demonstrations with various weapons, as well as for his masterful teaching skills and electrifying teaching style." I now looking back and reading this wish I hadn't had been lazy and would have stuck it out, because I had the chance of a life to be trained by the best. My brother went on to become a black belt but soon after dropped out for I can't remember what reason, and he was only 12 or 13 when this happened so he still had a long way to go. (though i will tell you years later, we got into a fight and I was just pushing him and punching him below the face and when he told me to stop I didn't listen so he promptly and precisely put his fist into my face and broke my nose and gave me two completely purple eyes, it was just absolute pwnage but w/e)

definately go to a good dojo and learn, maybe you could find a place that trains you in strength as well, watch Never Back Down and thats what I mean but do it man I doubt you'll regret it.

 



Posted By: jubba
Date Posted: 14 June 2008 at 10:10pm
If you live near a large town you might be able find someone to teach you. I remember reading years ago of two 23 or 26th generation sho-lin monks teaching in New York. I think there is still a guy that learned JKD from Bruce Lee teaching in LA. There are alot of Gracie Brazilian Juit Su schools around the country. My oldest took ATA for a coulpe of years but it was a hugh time commitment 4-5 days a week. It was testing on forms every 2 months to advance to your next belt. This helped spark interest in small children advancing every 60 days and forgetting what was learned months earlier. When they  get to the black belt  they have to retest on all the previous forms already past so they have to cram again. It just seemed like it was never learned just crammed into short term memory.



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