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Topic: Building New PC
Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Subject: Building New PC
Date Posted: 04 July 2008 at 5:43pm
So I'm finally building my first PC, and I need some advice on whether or not these components are good choices and if they are compatible.

Pulling out of an existing computer (trying to save some money):
  • Sound Blaster Audigy SE (PCI)
  • Cheapo HP Speakers
  • Cheapo HP Keyboard
  • Cheapo HP Mouse
  • HP DVD480 DVD Burner
  • Hanns-G JW199D 19" Widescreen LCD (Max Res 1440x900)

Total cost: ~$890
Total cost after rebates: ~$780

Now this computer will be used as a family computer, but mostly for gaming and a little school work. Photoshopping every once in a while, using Microsoft Office, and playing games mainly.

Games looking to play:
  • Half-Life 2
  • Battlefield 2
  • America's Army
  • Battlefield 2142 (Possibly)
  • Team Fortress 2(Possibly)
  • Any other Battlefield games (Possibly)

So, hows the system look for the games/uses listed? Are all of the components compatible?

After reading some reviews on the Q6600, some people were complaining about Intel's stock cooler. I don't plan on overclocking it any time soon, so will I be fine using the stock cooler?

Also, does the Q6600 come with thermal paste, or do I need to order some Arctic Silver or something? I've also never applied thermal paste to a CPU or even installed a CPU for that matter, so any help is appreciated.

It seems like a lot of people upgrade/replace parts quickly... do these components tend to have short life-spans? I would like this PC to go for at least 3 or 4 years without having to replace something.


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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 04 July 2008 at 6:01pm
If battlefield bad company comes to pc, you may not be able to run it well.

Otherwise, you should be able to run all those games on high with that setup.

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Posted By: techietaichi
Date Posted: 04 July 2008 at 6:10pm
Dude you already knew it was decent. C'mon!

Anyways, depending on what you're playing you're gtg for most. Besides it doesn't take much to upgrade, just wait til you get to that bridge. And hey, trick out the case bro.


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Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 04 July 2008 at 7:04pm
Looks like a decent set-up.

I would tend to steer away from Nvida chipsets on Intel set-ups simply because they tend to be way overpriced for what you get and SLI isn't really worth it, but you wont see any serious drawbacks unless you overclock.

I would probably recommend against the 8800GT unless your still folding.  Right now its the best performer for watt per PPD (Nvida's new client is getting on average 5000 PPD with a single card), but in terms of gaming ATI's new offerings are kicking Nvida's latest.  The 4850 dominates the 260 GTX for several hundred dollars less.

You might also want to replace that hard drive you have listed with WD 640GB drive.  Its using two 320GB platters which is giving it sustained read and write speeds better then any other 7200 RPM drive. 

The stock cooler should work ok, but its not that great.  You can make it run a little better with some decent thermal compound.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100009&nm_mc=OTC-Froogle&cm_mmc=OTC-Froogle-_-CPU+Thermal+Paste+/+Grease-_-Arctic+Silver-_-35100009 - Ceramique would be a good bet, however a lot of the OC community is talking about http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/ic-diamond-7-carat-thermal-compound-15-gram-p-16605.html - IC Diamond Paste which works great with higher pressure heatsinks.  I don't know much about the stock processor mounting system but if it has screws to apply pressure, IC diamond would probably work well.  As for applying paste, usually a small drop the size of a grain of rice will work with thinner pastes, just use the heat sink to spead it across the heatspreader.  Remember the cores are all you want to cover and they are in the middle.  Too much paste will inhibit heat transfer so don't go crazy with it.  If you use IC 7, the manufacturer's website has a great guide for applying it because its consistency is much thicker then other pastes.

Most of the time you see people changing parts frequently they are just buying the latest and greatest.  My rig is almost 3 years old and with the exception of my RAID card (><), nothing has died /knock on wood.  With poor cooling, your CPU may die young, but it should last at least 3 or 4 years.

Other then that it should be a great build, good luck!


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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 04 July 2008 at 7:12pm
Hey, I have those same speakers for my school computer, hehe.

Anyway, the parts listed should be more than adequate for the application. Check prices on http://www.tigerdirect.com - www.tigerdirect.com and http://www.zipzoomfly.com - www.zipzoomfly.com too before you order though, sometimes one of them will have a better price on some stuff but not others. If your CPU is a retail package (not OEM) then it will most likely come with some kind of thermal goo but it probably won't be anything special. You might want to just grab a small tube of arctic silver anyway. The stuff is cheap and it works real well, I use it for everything. Also, a 500 GB drive is only about $80-90 these days and you'd be surprised how fast you can fill that space with games and downloads and whatnot. You might want to spring for the bigger drive just so you don't have to worry about it later.

As for the fast upgrade cycle, that's just the nature of technology. Everything gets outdated extremely fast now but that doesn't mean it's useless. This computer was built about a year or 2 ago and newer systems could run circles around it but it still handles all my stuff pretty well, especially after a few upgrades. Originally it was:
  • Asus A8N-SLI (socket 939)
  • AMD Athlon 64 3500+
  • 2GB OCZ Platinum XTC
  • 2 x XFX GeForce 7600 GS
  • Ultra XConnect2 550w
  • WD Raptor 74GB 10,000 rpm 8MB cache
  • Thermaltake Blue Orb CPU cooler
  • Some cheap DVD combo drive
  • $20 sound card from Turtle Beach
  • Aspire (now Apevia) X-plorer case
It was decently fast but I was doing 3D modeling and stuff so I needed multiple cores for rendering with Blender and editing in Photoshop. Also, my video cards were passively cooled which did not work so well with the hardcore overclocks they came with from the factory. Tried placing 3 60mm fans around them to keep them cool, kept them cool but didn't fix the artifacts. I sent one back for warranty replacement since it was making some absurd artifacts but eventually the problem came back and I just said screw it. I also filled up my hard drive quite fast so I needed to do something about that. What I did to remedy these problems is to add:
  • AMD Opteron 165 (dual-core at 1.6 GHz, OC'd to 2.6GHz)
  • EVGA 8800GTS 320MB
  • WD Caviar SE16 500GB
3dMark06 score is around 8396. It handles just about everything without a problem, usually maxed out or damn close. I think the 8800GT is actually a tad faster than the GTS so you'll be even better off. The quad-core will also help tremendously on multi-threaded apps. My roommate at school has the same processor and it was great when we were doing 3D modeling, let him play with a lot of advanced stuff since he could render faster. It also overclocked pretty well.


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