Non-regulated CO2 guns need to be banned
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Topic: Non-regulated CO2 guns need to be banned
Posted By: motopsycho650
Subject: Non-regulated CO2 guns need to be banned
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 7:53pm
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I was playing a week ago and got hit with the most painful shot I've ever taken. Besides the fact that it was friendly fire from a newb with a rental gun, that sucker hurt. I called the ref, and he forced everyone to re-chrono. The guy who shot me was shooting 355 fps. It was a 98C rental using CO2. He said he had adjusted it to 285 when he started playing at 10am. But by 1pm, the temp had raised so much, his CO2 was at much higher pressure. I do not blame the newby player. I blame the field for not having someone making sure people chrono every time they return to the field. Anyways, the ball that hit me did break, but the mark it left was very dark, almost black. The bruise that formed around the mark was 3 inches in diameter. I still use CO2, but I have a stabilizer that regulates the pressure. My gun is as stable in velocity as any HPA gun I've seen. We have advanced in technology enough, that as a safety issue, no paintball gun should ever be unregulated, especially with CO2. A regulator should come stock as a safety feature. If you agree, post a message, and maybe the manufactures will listen. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 7:58pm
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K.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 7:58pm
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man up
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Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:07pm
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lawls at complaining about getting shot... ya bleedin... yeahh youre bleeding.... you had a mask on so whats the problem?  and you cant really regulate Co2 at all.. the stabilizer takes most of the liquid out without sacrificing performance like most expansion chambers do, it only acts as a regulator for Comp Air ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97 
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Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:12pm
Man up, you said it's only a bruise, you got no right crying. Check out these 2, this dumb ass shot me when I walked off the field and was next to his bunker, I think it cronoed at 425  .  ------------- 
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Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:22pm
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Mine looked worse than both of those, was actually bleeding through my shirt, and the 3 inch bruise was a dark yellow color. I will not be surprised if I have a circular scar after all is said & done. I've had 100+ shots that look like those two pics, and I would not complain about those. As far as not being able to regulate CO2, I disagree 100%. My stabilizer is adjustable, and if I set it to 600 psi, it keeps the CO2 at 600psi no matter how hot the tank gets. How is that not a regulator? ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:27pm
Not gonna happen. At best, make people chrono before each game. Even that is unlikely. |
Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:28pm
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You need a higher fps if you're gonna snipe.
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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:29pm
| 100+ shots like notxxscared posted and you complain about one big one... |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:32pm
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:34pm
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an extreme increase in pressure would decrease the FPS.
you can leave a gun in the sun all day and you wont have a 70 FPS increase... that velocity screw moved... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:34pm
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It's part of the sport. Suck it up, or be a super vaj, cry about hits, and get body armor. Downtime inbetween games is long enoug as it is, and you expect everyone to chrono amidst filling tanks, hoppers, pods, cleaning up, eating food, getting stuff to drink, ect? You would barly get any play time in if you had to wait for 50 people on a walk on game to chrono every time.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:37pm
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350 isnt even bad...
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:41pm
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evillepaintball wrote:Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:43pm
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Yes I am complaining about the one big one. That sucker hurt. I've been playing for over a decade, and I've taken many hot paintballs. That specific one felt like a rubber bullet, (which yes, I was shot by one for being in the wrong place during the riots in Denver after the Broncos won the Super Bowl). If nothing else, maybe some of you may read this, and be a bit more educated about the effects. And for the person who said, "you had your goggles on..." The manufactures of goggles specifically state they do not guarantee the lens to take shots over 300 fps. A paintball will shatter a beer bottle, why not a plastic lens. Also, some of you seem to not respect this sport as a game... A game that needs to be safe. Some of you need a 2x4 to the back of the head in my opinion... ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:43pm
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:45pm
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the manufacturer says that just so there are fewer instances in which they could be held liable. a maintained mask will withstand shots over 350fps.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:53pm
| A paintball will shatter a beer bottle? |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:54pm
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Damn paintguns. And get them damn kids outta my damn yard! ------------- 
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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 8:56pm
You do fully realize which sub forum you choose to post this in? |
Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:18pm
Gee, it says thoughts & opinions, which is exactly what I was sharing... Not sure why you even asked that. Honestly, I can't believe some of the responses from people who don't seem to care about being safe while playing a potentially dangerous game. People who post things saying 350 is ok, or you need higher velocity to be a sniper should be banned from these forums. That is the type of stuff Tippmann should not tolerate on a paintball forum. I belong to Tunka in Colorado, which is a public club of over 1300 Colorado players who host free games on National Forest land. Tunka's biggest thing is to follow the rules, both paintball rules & national forest rules. All of our members are very respectful of all of these rules, and never talk like some of you do. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:24pm
I can shatter a beer bottle with my bare hands. EDIT: **edited** paintball guns, I go out there and throw the mofos at people. Fists FTMFW!!! ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:26pm
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Paintballs will shatter a beer bottle, break windows, chip the paint off your car, break through dry wall... They are actually very powerful for being a gel-cap.
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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:27pm
It's T&O, people generally do not care about paintball related talk in here. If you would like more paintball related responses, please put topics like this in new players forum. Your not going to receive much sympathy here. |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:29pm
LIEK OMG! no. way. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:35pm
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Cheating is part of paintball. -------------
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:37pm
| I'd like to see a paintball shatter a beer bottle, I have trouble seeing that happen. |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:43pm
Do you think it counts to shoot the bottle off a tall building with your paintball gun? I mean...technically, that would count...right? ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:44pm
For someone whas "played for over a decade" you are very uneducated. Paint won't shatter a beer bottle or we wouldn't be playing with plastic lenses Chip the paint off a car?..lol I have personally put hoppers upon hoppers of paint into my car. Also, I have personally put paint through drywall. Of course it took a hopper before it started breaking. As has been said, goggles are rated higher than 350 fps. They say do not shoot them above 300 for insurance reasons. 350 is ok. It doesn't do much at all. I wouldn't and don't play with guns that high, but it barely hurts anymore. If you'd like, I'll make 3 videos for you for proof. Oh and G.T.F.O. troll ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:45pm
Go talk to the owner of Blitz Paintball in Dacono Colorado. He used a steel water troff at their chrono station, and after 3 months & who knows how many paintballs, the steel at the the bottom of the troff split open like a pop can. They also have moble homes in the field with 1000 holes right through the wooden siding. 300 fps = 204.5 Miles per hour. anything, no matter how small, traveling that fast is potentially deadly. I used to target practice with beer bottles all the time. go try it... 3-5 shots on the bottle & it will shatter, every time. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:49pm
I want you to go play with some real guns, that way I won't have to worry about you later on. At a Tunka game, if anyone is caught turning their gun up on purpose, they are asked to leave, and shunned from the group... ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:51pm
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Were you using real bullets when you shot the beer bottles and missed he first 2-4? I have taken my mask and put it 5 feet away from me, and shot it with a full hopper and that didn't shatter. thin Plastic stronger than glass bottles these days? Also, playing on national forests is illegal most likely. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:52pm
Oh no! Not social castration! Man...you guys are BRUTAL. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 9:58pm
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In colorado it is NOT illegal to play in national forest land. We are one of 4 states that still allow it. Partially because we talk to the rangers, we avoid over played areas, we don't rainbow trees, we stay 100 yards from the roads, and WE FOLLOW THE RULES!!! Cheating in paintball is only for those players who aren't good enough to play fairly. Some days I win, some days I lose, but I do it with sportsmanship. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:04pm
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:06pm
So you gave up on the other arguments? ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:18pm
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TL;DR Even with the stabalizer, the velocity will raise no matter what. Even in the mornings when I walk onto the field with HPA and a regulator, my velocity still rises with the temperature. No matter what all you read that HPA is barely affected by temperature, it still is affected a good deal enough to raise my 285fps over 300fps in just a few hours time. |
Posted By: You Wont See Me
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:18pm
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Nobody on this section of the forum plays(or cares) about paintball anymore. They come here for fun. This would be better suited in new players forum. Even though your not a new player. I'd say ideas but that section of the forum is a joke.
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Posted By: slackerr26
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:26pm
um gettin shot is part of the game. just suck it up. i've had alot of bruises and bleeders from getting shot five feet away on bare skin...you dont see me crying about it
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Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:26pm
Why would anyone make a WATER troff out of a metal that rusts or corrodes? that seems like a stupid idea. I'm talking stainless steel
I'm just going with the flow of the discussion... I am really bored, otherwise I wouldn't waste my time on such idiotic things like this that experienced players should know anyways. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:27pm
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:28pm
Also, above 300 fps you can start breaking small bones, such as ones in your hands. But yeah, this guy is talking out of his rectum. |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:29pm
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It happens. Suck it up. No matter what you do, its almost 100% not going
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Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:36pm
Honestly, this entire forum is a joke, no matter which section you're in. Why would you hang out in the Tippmann forum if you don't play or care about paintball. Seems like MySpace has more people to talk to, about a lot of other subjects. I realize the thoughts & opinions page is about more than just paintball, but I came here because it has way more posts/views than other pages. I came to talk, and that's what we're doing... Some of these people are just d*cks, others are just idiots. but even so, I've been occupied talking here which is exactly what I wanted this evening. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:37pm
AKA: you give up because you are wrong, and you know it because I have done everything you said with no effects. For the record I've bounced BB's off of glass bottles ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:37pm
Says the guy repping Specops about this forum. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: rednekk98
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:39pm
| I once shot a JT lens with a 12ga @ 20 yards and it stopped #6 birdshot. |
Posted By: RoboCop
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:41pm
| Go back to Specops. They are more of your kind. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:45pm
I've bounced pellets off of full plastic bottles. And my friends bb pistol is so weak now, it cant even knock over an empty pop can at 40 feet. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 10:50pm
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I've seen paintballs break glass bottles. Not at fields though. ------------- 
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Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:13pm
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Thank you SSOK, finally someone with some intelligence. Since there is a serious lack of intelligence here, I am going to retire to my PS3 & Metal Gear Solid. The AI in that game is smarted than most of you. Bottom line for me is, if you have to cheat & turn your gun up too fast, than I am a better player than you, regardless of who shot who... For anyone of importance in Tippmann who reads these forums, I still stand behind me argument that all paintball guns should have a regulator. That would be the most innovative idea in the sport to date in my opinion. Every decent speed ball gun has a reg built in, why not the lower end guns... Safety is number one for me, and this is from a guy who used to have BB gun wars without masks before we got into paintball. Call it age, call it wisdom, I call it common sense... ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:14pm
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I've shot windows with my paintgun before, break the glass it did not. Nor did it even crack.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:15pm
What are you, 12? That's just pathetic. |
Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:26pm
That means a lot from a guy who has what looks like fireworks taped to his face. My point is proven even more... Good night all, it's been comical & entertaining, to say the least. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:29pm
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:30pm
Haha, you proved my point, thanks. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:31pm
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Oh, and LOLSPECOPSLOL
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:42pm
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lol bedtime for the little baby... get shot @ 375fps in the adams apple, then come complain, suck it up and shoot back if you thought it was unnecessary ------------- 
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Posted By: motopsycho650
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:45pm
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I LOL at Special Ops too, why do you think I mocked their icons. The only cool PB players are the good old Tunka crew here in Colorado. Nothing any of you say is going to get to me. Try as you will... The more you try to make me mad, the more I laugh in your face. ------------- Tunka.com - Working to keep paintball legal in Colorado's National Forests. Don't rainbow rocks/trees, be safe around non-paintball players, and please DON'T CHEAT Special Ops Brigade ID:161556 |
Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 06 July 2008 at 11:51pm
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*grabs popcorn*
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Posted By: barn_user
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:00am
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:19am
That's funny because I couldn't help but notice your avatar and brigade link. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:25am
That was priceless. Rarely do I actually LOL from reading something...but I just did. You took the words right out of my mouth, Chewp. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:26am
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355 fps really isnt that bad... ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:29am
Seriously... 355 is still actually in the realm of safe. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:30am
I take point blank 355 shots to the eye every morning to train for when I make it big. 355 is for kids. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:38am
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dont airsoft guns goo up past 700fps?
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:40am
I just got one in the mail at 380 fps ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:43am
Yeah but they have special minimum distance regulations for those. Airsoft hurts very much especially the ones that don't break. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Darur
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 2:24am
Small objects at such a speed yes, but light objects not so much. I'm a little rusty on my physics so feel free to correct me here, but the momentum of the paintball is represented by 0.0031 kg * 91.44 m/s = 0.28 kg/m/s. Force = momentum/time, so assuming the paintball needs 1/20th of a second to come to a complete stop, the force of impact is approximately 5.6 Newtons. Hardly deadly. Mind you I'm using ideal conditions here and not factoring in wind resistance, and assuming your body has the same consistency as your average tree. Paintballs != deadly ------------- Real Men play Tuba [IMG]http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1859/newsmall6xz.jpg"> PH33R TEH 1337 Dwarf! http://www.tippmann.com/forum/wwf77a/log_off_user.asp" rel="nofollow - DONT CLICK ME!!1 |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 3:25am
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I haven't paintballed in 4 years.
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 4:56am
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Then leave? All you do is troll anyway.
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Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 5:09am
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 5:32am
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Lower end guns cannot have "regulators" because you cannot regulate co2. Not even my Phantom is immune to spikes. And why would someone spend at least $100 for an hpa tank for a low end marker? The only regulators are the velocity screw in most cases. Manufacturers don't read forums, and this thread is a perfect example of why. If you have been in this sport for as long as you claim, then you should not be surprised at the responses you have received here. You should also know that your "crew" or whatever aren't the only "cool paintballers". You're taking your examples from a very small percentile of people who aren't even in the game anymore. And over the internet. Just relax, go to the paintball oriented sections, and people will gladly talk to you there. |
Posted By: Robotech
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 11:41am
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I don't know how you guys can say there are no regulators for CO2. I run a Palmers Stabilizer. At 60 degrees in the morning it shoots 283. At 108 in the afternoon it shoots 283. No matter what the temperature (so far nothing below about 60) it shoots the same so long as the paint is the correct and consistant size. I have more issues with varrying speed because of paintball size, not air source. As for requiring markers to be regulated I think that's a little overboard. So is cronoing between every game. I DO feel though that your field should have one crono session in the morning and another after lunch time. I played one day at SC Village in So Cal and in the morning everyone cronoed. After lunch they didn't until it seemed some folks were shooting hot. The ref did a spot check on the field and it turned out all the unregulated CO2 markers were shooting well over 300 FPS...the hottest was over 400. Once they re-cronoed at the proper FPS there were no other issues that day. ------------- New to the sport? http://www.b17queenofthesky.com/paintball/index.html"> 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 11:42am
A stabilizer is not a regulator. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 11:47am
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Posted By: Robotech
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 11:49am
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Yea...okay...whatever you say... http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online-catalog/stabilizer.htm - http://www.palmer-pursuit.com/online-catalog/stabilizer.htm The Stabilizer IS a regulator. ------------- New to the sport? http://www.b17queenofthesky.com/paintball/index.html">
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 11:50am
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Yeah, I always thought the Stabilizer was a type of expansion chamber with a regulator.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 11:52am
Coming up on two I think (though I have bought new things for my marker) It was costing me $50-100 to even play for a few hours. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 11:56am
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 11:58am
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Looks like $50-$60. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:07pm
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if you put a round on a mask and look carefully alot of times they will leave TINY cracks...
the thin plastic is MUCH more resistant to cracks than glass because it is allowed to flex... glass does not flex (i have even cracked car windshields at 280FPS with only a few hundred rounds) ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 12:32pm
 Also, OMGH YEA TUNKA TUNKA TUNKA. ------------- 
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Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 1:09pm
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And another thing, no way does paint shatter glass or chip paint from cars. I have had 4 car paintball games on the highway, 80+ mph, 3-4 people per car, unloading on eachother, and the cars were fine. Masks are only garaunteed for 300 fps, but they withstand a lot more in reality. And cheating is part of paitnball, no matter how you slice it. Have you ever played or witnessed a tournament? Being able to successfully wipe off a shot- making it look like a natural motion by getting rid of it by sliding, rubbing on a bunker, or hitting it while reloading- is just as important as shooting fast, snap shooting, or other skills you need to know. It;s like holding in football, yes it's illegal, but everyone does it and the only way to compete is to do it as well. And Mr. Tough Guy with real guns, I'm so scared  -------------
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Posted By: Da Hui
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 1:11pm
You're an idiot. -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 1:14pm
X10000 That may be the most retarted thing that I have ever read on this forum. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 1:21pm
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Robotech, is that Oddball from"Kelly's Heroes"?
but seriously, you can't spell paintball without pain, suck it up and take the pain. It only makes you stronger. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 1:30pm
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 1:32pm
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I sense that the hypocrisy runs thick in this thread - mine own included. We basically have five pages of people saying to suck it up and just play, regardless of velocities. Yet, every time some newbie asks "how many rotations of the velocity screw to get to 275 fps", many of these same posters jump all over him with the stock response that only a chrono ensures "safe play", and that it is irresponsible to play without chronoing first. Can these positions be reconciled? As an aside, on the safety front I note that I am not aware of a single injury in the history of paintball resulting from being hit with a paintball while wearing proper face protection. Given the number of nutballs out there, that would tend to lend support to the position that such an injury is basically impossible, regardless of how much you crank up your gun. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 1:53pm
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ive stated before that we typically chrono by eye
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 1:58pm
Come with me?  ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Robotech
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 2:04pm
Yes it is. WOOF WOOF!
Car Paintball...cheating is a part of the sport... You, sir, need to earn yourself a Darwin Award... ------------- New to the sport? http://www.b17queenofthesky.com/paintball/index.html">
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 2:07pm
"Always with the negative waves, Moriarity!" ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: tgaffner
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 2:12pm
| 350 aint skat... |
Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 2:26pm
Have you ever played a tournament? If you haven't, please don't talk. I never cheat with friends, because they're not cheating, but at a tournament, chances are the other team is. And how the hell is that part of a Darwin Award, dumb ass? Cheating isn't going to get me killed numb nuts. And when we played in the cars, it was on some highway in upstate New York, and we waited for a completely empty spot, where there were no cars. It was still dangerous, but what ever, it was fun. It was also common sense to not shoot for the driver side windshield, and every body was fine. -------------
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 3:44pm
That is not what I am saying. I am just saying 350 doesn't hurt as much as he described. Also the things he saidmake no sense. And notscared, you are a retard. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 4:04pm
Doesn't matter how you spin that one, dude...it's pretty freaking stupid. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Robotech
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 4:48pm
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I don't expect someone of your mental capacity to actually have any form of reading comprehension skills so let me elaborate. Specifying that you need to earn yourself a Darwin Award does not, in any way, specify that your cheating WILL earn yourself said award but rather than you need to do something to earn said award thus taking your genes out of the human gene pool before given the chance to reproduce. To simplify, I never said cheating would get you killed but rather you need to participate in some activity...any activity...that will alleviate the blight on society that is you. You see, I don’t play tournaments because I don’t believe in cheating. To me, playing a game fairly means something to me. If I HAVE to cheat to win at something, I’d rather just not play it. The mentality you have is what paintball SHOULDN’T be about. There are grey areas in sports that you can push…but outright breaking the rules shouldn’t be tolerated. That’s why I love hockey. Someone keeps breaking the rules you have a way of evening things out yourself if the refs don’t catch it. Oh, and if six people play Russian roulette five of them will walk away "just fine". ------------- New to the sport? http://www.b17queenofthesky.com/paintball/index.html">
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Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 07 July 2008 at 6:15pm
I admit it, the highway thing was stupid, I'm not denying it. It was fun though. Probably won't ever do it again, and it's done with now. But anyways, that was brilliant, ass hole, Cheating in a paintball game and shooting a friends car on an empty highway definetely makes me a "blight on society", deserving nothing other than death . The mentality that I have about paintball is what tournements are about. It's not like I have some skewed pattern of thinking, cheating has become a part of the game. Have you ever watched a pro video? You can probably spot a few wipes on each video clip. And if you weren't such a vagina, you could have run up and bonus balled the kid that had their gun cranked or was wiping paint if you felt the need to "get even" like in hockey, instead of pissing and moaning on an internet forum about someone having a slightly hot gun.And to the Russian Roulette comment- I would rather risk getting hurt than living in a bubble. There's risk to anything you do, and I would rather take my risks and have fun along the way, than live like you, crying about a paintball 50 fps over the limit. -------------
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