Thor celebrates...
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Topic: Thor celebrates...
Posted By: Thor
Subject: Thor celebrates...
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:43pm
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The fact that he is now OFFICIALLY no longer some nerdy computer jockey helpdesk Signalman.
He is now Combat arms. Goodbye computers, hello Sabot! A round of (virtual) beer all around! ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:53pm
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What the hell ?
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:54pm
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Welcome to the Brotherhood. ------------- 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:54pm
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Good job man
I will be joining you soon enough. (assuming basic officer doesn't kill me physically) ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:59pm
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Oh I see.
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Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 11 July 2008 at 11:59pm
| congrats! if i remember right, armor? pics? |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 12:07am
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I'll get pics up as soon as I get to battle school.
Unless you want nerdy old-school Rad Op pics? 
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 12:12am
We know.  congrats! |
carl_the_sniper wrote:Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 3:43pm
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Congrats, man. Damn, you actually look familiar, too. I'm sure I've seen you around town. You weren't anywhere near the Brew Pub or the 'Nog last night, were you? ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 4:15pm
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'Cause if you were, he gave you the bloody lip.
I guess since Brihard thinks he saw you, my guess that you were Canadian panned out (only guess because of the C8 or whatever it is you Canadians call your AR-series rifles). |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 4:19pm
More like burning sensation in the genetals amirite? Most likely a C7 by the way ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 4:20pm
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I'm still astounded Canada has a military. Thats crazy, man.
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 12 July 2008 at 4:22pm
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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 13 July 2008 at 8:41pm
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Those jokes are hilarious. It's just a shame our seemingly non-existant military is STILL spearheading the military efforts in Afghanistan long after the yanks had supported it in any meaningful way.
Now if only any one of us could remember who stirred the hornets nest in that region....hmmmm..... ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 13 July 2008 at 9:00pm
OOH I think I know It was the mexicans wasent it? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 13 July 2008 at 10:40pm
I think the real highlight there is you're "spearheading" it after it's old news. You guys are doing a real crack job there. Keywords there are "STILL spearheading". As if you were spearing anything. Ever. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 13 July 2008 at 11:50pm
Go pick up a copy of the NY Times, or other reputable paper my friend. In fact, have a free link to their site: www.nytimes.com - www.nytimes.com . Read any article on Afghanistan for, say, the past week. They have a common theme: the Pentagon wants to take troops out of Iraq, and put 'em in Afghanistan. So, maybe you want to recant your comment? Anyway, Thor, I thought we still outnumbered you guys there? According to the ISAF article on Wikipedia, you're in a solid 5th place, with Italy, Germany, Britain, and the US well ahead of you (by more than a multiple of 10 total). |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 8:52am
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While numbers may speak to you. I'd take 1 Canadian Infanteer going on advance to contacts and rooting out the taliban over how ever many hundreds of thousands of air force personnel you want to send.
The only other country that has it as rough as we do is the Brits, cause they are fighting in the helmand province right next to kandahar. It's all well and good to assume more people means your doing good. But we're leader of the MNB for rebuild and combat. So try actually reading up on before you post. And rockerdoode. the last thing we speaheaded was Bosnia. And we also helped save your asses in Korea. When you think about it, aside from WW2 (in which the yanks barely wanted to get involved, until they got schooled in front of the entire world), the yanks haven't done a whole hell of alot except make stupid decisions. I honestly can't wait until the yank society crumbles and you guys become our mexico. That'll make for a fun shopping day. Maybe I could buy a genuine american piece of crap car made in detroit. heh. "Pots on! Await Flames!" ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 8:59am
Canada has a military? Seriously though, I like the fact you guys get paid more over there. Wish I could get paid as much as you guys do. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 9:29am
Well done, combating rockerdude's ignorance with your very own brand. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 9:33am
Keep waiting. And personnel are personnel; also, if you look at casualty figures, the numbers for the US are drastically larger than for any other outside military force. Maybe 'cause, you know, we do more there? Also, we've had 2,200 Marines deployed with your 2,500 man force around Kandahar since March. I was involved with a BF2 mod called Project Reality last year for a couple months, and I met a lot of people who served in the US, UK, and Canadian armed forces, and I have a whole lot of respect for all of them. But you're talking out of your ass if you think that 2,500 troops are doing as much work as the 32,000 troops we've sent, especially since the vast majority of them are not air force personnel; we've got four times as many soldiers training the Afghan army as you have in the whole country. My country may make horrible decisions, but we happen to be really good at fighting wars. Ask the 2 million Vietnamese who died in the '60's and '70's. Also, Canada spent $175 million last year reconstruction aid to Afghanistan; the US spent an average of $7 million a day on reconstruction aid in Afghanistan. Don't get me wrong; I'm all for help in Afghanistan, I think that if Iraq wasn't a huge distraction for the US, maybe we could get around to doing Afghanistan right. But don't come in here and try to tell me that you're doing it better. Because you're not. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 9:46am
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AFGHANISTAN. UR DOIN IT WRONG
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Posted By: holysmartone
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 10:52am
| I hate to break it to you canucks, but if theres one thing America has done, its to master the art of war. |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:11am
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Seriously, you guys had to license your rifle from one of America's (historically, anyway) largest arms providers--Colt.
*EDIT* Actually, Colt now sells to them directly.
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:21am
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While I certainly am not backing Thor here, you might want to add a notation to your statement. We haven't really mastered the art of war since World War II seeing as how there was no clear victory in Korea or Vietnam. Which brings me to the second point, the statement about America being able to fight wars in references to the Vietnam conflict was humorous. Sheer numbers do not count at all when looking at war. Look how many people the Soviet Union lost but they were still able to technically win World War II. Just because we killed more in Vietnam does not make us good in fighting that war particularly. |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:32am
The military did not lose Vietnam. The politicians did. The US is the world's foremost power in the art of killing, bar none. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:41am
I loled... Whether you were serious or not. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:51am
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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 12:37pm
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Well pariel, although it's cute that you're an armchair general, I have seen it first hand, and you ARE doing it wrong.
I'll let you know next time I hear of Yank engineers building wells, clearing rodes, or rebuilding schools. Until then, you can't say a damn word. I may have come across as ignorant, but it's a taste of your own medecine. In all honesty, I couldn't care less who was doing the work, as long as it was getting done. However, I also believe in giving credit where credit is due. And, so far all I've seen the yanks do is go in and make a mess and put AS LITTLE EFFORT AS POSSIBLE in retribution. The yank nobility that you seem to think exists, isn't very apparent. ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 12:51pm
We can win a conventional war no problem. It's the urban-insurgent-don't know who the enemy is-war that screws us. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 1:12pm
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So Thor, how do you like riding in armour?
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Posted By: Dune
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 1:32pm
That's a good way to put it. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 1:39pm
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or fighting a war with rules....
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Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 4:32pm
I lol'd. If your logic is correct, if I crossed the border into your country and murdered a few servicemen, that would be your country contributing to the conflict. Your men and women dying does not equate to them doing more. It equates to them being killed. Anyways to post on topic: Congrats Thor. If all goes to plan for me (at least it's currently the plan), and horribly wrong for you, maybe I'll be pulling you out of a flaming tank one day  ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45 
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 5:00pm
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"Anyways to post on topic: Congrats Thor. If all goes to plan for me (at
least it's currently the plan), and horribly wrong for you, maybe I'll
be pulling you out of a flaming tank one day " Don't let it come to that! ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 5:31pm
Haha of course not. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 7:20pm
You keep saying "compare compare compare". That's not how the world works: a company with more cash can beat the snot out of a little company. Same with countries. GDP and population size aren't a factor when you're counting boots on the ground; they never have been, and they never will be. You don't compare which country is larger before the battle, then line up and shoot people based on some statistics. Granted, our military quality is probably slightly lower at this point, considering some significant percentage of our military is made up of convicted convicts. Also, 40,000 Canadians fought in Vietnam; 2 million Americans fought there. 103 Canadians died; 58,000 Americans did. That's less than 2% of the Americans who fought there; I believe that both British and Australian commandos trained with Army special forces units in Vietnam as well. I could be wrong, but I believe Project Reality is still alive and running; I left jst after .8 came out. *EDIT* Just check their website, and their most recent update was July 5th, so I'm gonna assume you just don't like that content of the mod anymore. To each his own. If Bush didn't stick his head up his ass and invade Iraq, we could handle Afghanistan just fine. For that matter, if we'd actually supported the pro-America remnants of the mujahadeen in 1989, instead of allowing them to be ousted for the Taliban, we'd never have a 9/11, nor would we have to invade.
I will continue to armchair general until we stop fighting foreign wars, seeing how I'm not dumb enough to actually fight in them. The US military is not, and has not, been designed for occupation. We're good at killing people, and that's about it. The US has the largest advanced arms industry in the world supplying it--that is the core of my only point. We're good at making stuff that kills the enemy. Our reconstruction efforts may be near worthless; but I'm sure I can find you some examples of actual work being done: http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/afghanistan/ - How about here... http://www.trade.gov/afghanistan/ - here... http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/ps/2008/jun/105770.htm - or here , although this is just the huge bill we footed for it. It works out to $10 million plus, per day.
I think you lack a full understanding of my point of view, but that's more my fault since you've only been able to know what I've typed. I think America is one of the most morally corrupt, socially inept countries in the plant. We have no sustaining, unifying culture except celebrity culture, which is worse than none at all. But I would say we're very good at a small number of things. One of those things happens to be the creation of new, innovative ways to kill people. |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:03pm
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"But I would say we're very good at a small number of things. One of those things happens to be the creation of new, innovative ways to kill people."
Congrats, you make new toys. Is this really a point worth arguing? Just so you know. A rifle will always be a rifle, no matter how many neat tricks it can do. And, a bomb will always be a bomb. Maybe the yanks can be proud of their toys when they actually make warfare easier. But I won't hold my breath. I'd rather wait until someone invents a phaser. Then, I'll be impressed. And Ceesman, I really enjoy riding in Armour. All the advance to contacts and "milk runs" we did in the sandbox were out of LAV's and Nyala's...and those are considered tame. I think I will orgasm when the 120 smoothbore goes off. ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:41pm
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"Also, 40,000 Canadians fought in Vietnam; 2 million Americans fought there. 103 Canadians died; 58,000 Americans did. That's less than 2% of the Americans who fought there; I believe that both British and Australian commandos trained with Army special forces units in Vietnam as well."
40,000 people that did not go there because they were forced to. 40,000 people that left canada to join the US military to support you guys. "I could be wrong, but I believe Project Reality is still alive and running; I left jst after .8 came out." Since 0.5, It has just gotten worse and worse and I know many agree Thor: Enjoy your hearing damage  Hopefully in two years, I will be too.------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:48pm
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Well, to each his own.
Will you be in Leopard 1's, or have they finally bought you guys Leopard 2's? Also, just wondering, how big are the Nyalas inside? They're some of the most interesting vehicles I've ever seen, but I've never seen a good internal picture.
I agree 100%. But I have a hard time comparing 103 and almost 60,000, that's all.
Well, the vast majority seem to think that the DEV's plans are sound, because it's only been growing. I was particularly impressed by the Israeli Defense Forces community mod. Should fit in nicely. And going back to their site today, I might reinstall BF2 just to try out the US Army. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 14 July 2008 at 11:54pm
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Thor: When did you ride in a Nyala or LAV?
Direct fire or recon? Pariel: They just bought about 100 leopard 2A6's but I doubt if they have them yet. (could be wrong) I believe they train on older vehicles though at first. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 7:02am
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Rode in Nyala's (or RG32's if you wanna get picky) on Roto 1 in kandahar. Advance to contact just means you stomp around until someone picks a fight.
We have 80 2A6's on contract from germany and the swiss. We train on standard C2's until we can be sent to germany for our leo 2 conversion course And I think armur will be great. I mean, who wouldn't love a job where your weapon carries you? ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 8:31am
| Beats walkin'. And you have bigger guns. |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 1:18pm
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You know, I was just kidding...you guys really need to get on that whole "sarcasm" thing. It was pretty obvious I was mocking .357 or Da Hui here. AMER'CAS #1!!! edit: I just wanted to apologize if I pissed off anyone with my sarcasm here...I kinda realize armed forces aren't something you should give someone crap about. I'd also like to take the chance to say I don't hate Canadians. Just the Asian ones. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: Ilford Rule
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 3:51pm
Congratulations, your country is based largely around the commercialization of and profiteering around the death of others. Have a bloody cookie. ------------- CPro (w/ polished internals) 14" Bigshot BT SBS Various Rails NcSTAR D4B Macro AA 68/45
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Posted By: mod98commando
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 5:12pm
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Wow, this is one of the dumbest arguments on the forum right now. Of course America has put more resources into Iraq and Afghanistan, we started the war! However, this doesn't mean that the Canadians or any of the other coalition forces aren't doing their part and it's extremely unfair and disrespectful to say otherwise. It's true that the US military is disturbingly efficient when it comes to kicking butt and taking names but that doesn't mean our allies are all pushovers. Canada has supported us in probably every major conflict and they didn't send over cheerleaders, they sent quality troops that made a significant contribution. In any case, we're allies and this is OUR war, not theirs. If they contribute less money or troops, so what? They have less resources and it's not their war, they're just supporting us. Be grateful for what they give and leave it at that.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 5:18pm
I didn't know you were in afghanistan. So direct fire then? I thought you didn't get chosen until later in training or is that only for officers? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 6:31pm
The argument was in response to this:
Which was blatantly untrue. I think we can agree to get back on subject though. So, will you be deployed sometime after training Thor? |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 10:15pm
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Hopefully, I want a second Roto in the sandbox before it comes to a close. I don't want to carry on the rest of my career knowing I missed a combat tour cause of bad timing and someone screwing me out of it years earlier.
And yeah, apparently I am already course loaded for direct fire. I will be heading to germany for direct fire combat training after christmas vacation this year. And the tempo around here means that I should be deployed sometime in 09/2010. Should be a blast. Coincidentally enough, today I found the PAM's and training plans and tests for the course I am going on. Top student, here I come. Wouldn't it be great if that actually meant anything? ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 15 July 2008 at 10:46pm
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I just finished signing my life away. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 16 July 2008 at 12:20pm
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Thor, carl, what main battle tank does Canada use? ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 16 July 2008 at 4:24pm
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Right now, the Leopard 2A6.
Mightiest MBT in the whole world. Drool worthy, indeed. ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 16 July 2008 at 4:27pm
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NICE! ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 16 July 2008 at 4:41pm
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So you'll be doing training in Leopard 1's (C2's is what Canada calls them, I think you said before) though, before you head over to Germany?
I don't really know how it works; will you be in a specific position? I think there's 3 enlisted in a Leopard right? Gunner, driver...radio operator? I'm assuming that you'll be trained on all three positions to the extent of being able to carry out someone else's job, but will you be specifically training for one position? |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 16 July 2008 at 5:23pm
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All specific training comes from OJT. And the third position is crew commander.
We always need to know everyone else's job in order to have complete versatility for all troops. ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |