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Topic: robbed update...
Posted By: merc
Subject: robbed update...
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:02pm
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update: the reason the locks were changed is because the previous owner sold the house a 2nd time weeks after we closed...
so someone drilled the locks on my house and stole every dead bolt and door knob... the house was forclosed on by the previous owners bank. we think they sent someone over to do it... there was a lock box on the front door but no realter serial number. i cut it off, opened it up and got into the house... nothing else is missing as far as i know. so far they owe me 100$ for new locks, 50$ for a grinder and extension cord (both of which i had inside the house but had to rebuy) and then 2.5hr time for buying tools, locks, and replacing the locks. i figure standard rate is aprox 100$ per hour. 250+100+50= $400 cops said it was a civil matter because there was no criminal intent however, we are hanging no trespassing signs tomorrow so if it happens again we can press criminal charges. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:06pm
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That sucks, but I don't really follow what happened? Are you saying the dead beats came back and just vandalized locks?
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:08pm
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In before CCW and/or acts of badassery. YES! ------------- 
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:12pm
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the owner before us dident pay so they got forclosed on. we bought it from their bank. for some reason i think the bank sent someone to change out all the locks. even though we have owned the house for 3 WEEKS!...
i took the box but left the U bolt it was hanging on kind of as a F you... i am buying a shot gun tomorrow morning at wal-mart. i wont aim it at anyone but i will have it in my hand if i confront ANYONE on my property... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:18pm
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Buy an airsoft shotgun for the price. -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:19pm
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Burglarized* ------------- 
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Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:19pm
Be very, very careful about that. In this particular case it's far more prudent to just immediately call the police. Anyone coming in and getting rid of locks is probably operating under the belief that they are acting lawfully. You don't want stupidity to escalate a situation. Just let them know the police are on their way, and get their names and the names of their supervisors. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
merc wrote:Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:19pm
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that gets into the issue of if i want/need to shoot something i want it dead.
plus i plan to start hunting this season. edit: i dont plan on "using" it. probly not even showing it but im just frustrated right now so i wanna rub my e peen and talk like im 12. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:23pm
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How is this not a crime exactly? ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:25pm
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i dono the cop said "it was obviously done by a relater and there was no criminal intent it is a civil matter"
im thinking because there is property damaged/stolen it IS in fact a criminal matter. im wanting to call again in the morning and have it written up. what are your thoughts rambs? ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:32pm
| install security system? get a dog maybe. black labs, from experience of having them since i was little is they are very loyal if you treat them well, and **** up anyone they don't recognize as a friendly walking through the front door. mine has done it on a few occasions...or had the opportunity had the screen door not been in the way. |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:36pm
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we are still fixing the place up/painting. we go over every night after work and most of the day on sat/sunday.
we were hoping to finish up this weekend and move in over the next week. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:40pm
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i'd suggest installing some constantino wire and some trip mines with claymores but the neighbors might get a little spooked edit- and it sounds like the prev. owners or associates...who else would steal door knobs and bolts? |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:42pm
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il put up 4" thick steel walls on all sides of the property. install trip wire mines around the house and have 8" alligators with 20mm anti tank guns mounted to their back.
edit: i know it was the prev owning bank. but its just another PIA i have to deal with... and MORE money out of my pocket and time i should be spending dealing with this stuff. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:44pm
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If the "realtor" honestly thought that he was authorized to enter, then there is no crime. That much is correct. But if you bought the house three weeks ago, and live there, how could they not know?
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 05 September 2008 at 11:48pm
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we dont "live" there yet. we own a condo .5mi away so we are just driving over and doing work.
but by mid day monday EVERYONE involved will understand the situation and we will have someone to name in a civil case to reimburse me/us for our time/money. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 12:11am
And curtains. |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 12:46am
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good news... i found out why someone changed the locks...
the house was sold at an auction 9-3-08 almost 3 weeks after we bought the house... so now we are going to have to call a whole lot of people... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:02am
That sounds bad. Pray for boring, your life needs it. I don't know how I would deal with a mess like that. I guess now is a bad time to tell you that I posted your house on craig's list as "abandonned house - free wiring and copper plumbing to anyone who wants it". ------------- My shoes of peace have steel toes. |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:09am
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^lol
my life would be to easy... bought a house, car broke down, started a new job and i had to start taking classes 2 nights a week all at the same time. BTW this is the easiest my lifes been in the past 2 years... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:13am
Oh dude... Have fun with this one. Sounds like someone may have pulled a fast one and auctioned off a house they knew to be vacant. If I were you I would do your best to move in right away, just so you have a presence there. Otherwise this could get truly retarded. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:16am
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Merc, you've probably got some serious legal recourse on this one. If you bought the house, closed on it, and then the bank auctioned it, you can nail them for not performing their due diligence. Not only that, but I'm sure there's bank and wire fraud charges that could be leveled as well. Get a GOOD real estate lawyer because you can bet that the bank has one. You're probably going to be going up against the person who bought the house at auction as well as they'll feel that they have a legitimate claim to the property. Make sure that EVERYTHING gets cleared up in this matter, you don't want the guy that bought it at auction to get a copy of the deed or have his name registered in the landholder's records for the city/county/state. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:18am
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it takes me 90 seconds to drive from my condo to the new house. im there EVERY day. but im removing all of my tools from the home.
but now i have to deal with someone who THINKS they own the house. im going to print a copy of the city info and a copy of our papers saying we bought it to have on my possession incase we have to or are confronted by the other "owners" ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:18am
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basically, dont wait till Monday, start on it right now if you can. ------------- 
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:25am
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we are. GF is sending an email with copies of info to our relater, selling relater, our lawyer and the lawyer handling the auction.
i am also changing the locks in the morning (not much good it will do) posting no trespassing signs, also posting info on the front door about US legally owning the house prior to the auction. monday morning i am talking to my supervisor to see if i take advantage of free legal services. from what i hear the United States Navy has their own way dealing with things ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: pb125
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:26am
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Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:28am
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Imageshack is broken tonight. More than usual, I mean. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:29am
Call the Police and request that they patrol by there the rest of the weekend and all day Monday. See if you can't get a 'Cease and Desist' order for the house from a Judge if you have any connections or know anyone that has any connections. That will keep the bank from being able to do anything to the house/locks/whatever as well as the other potential buyer. If you have a copy of the deed, or the bank with which you have the mortgage does, get a copy and present it to the police when you request that they patrol. That gives you legal rights to have them arrest anyone who trespasses on the property. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:36am
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i swear, why the hell are you JUST a cook??? i dont get it -------------
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:37am
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il go down to the police station 1st thing in the morning then head over to home depot for new locks. il ask the lawyer we used for the closing if he can get something from a judge. if not il start seeing if i know anyone who can help. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:40am
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How did the Morgage clear the required deed search and title search and the the morgage company/bank issue a mortgage if a proper records search was not done. Find out if the issueing bank had the deed title searched before you closed?
You need to go to the County Sherriff with your copies of ownership and they will be the ones to patrol the property, then Mon hit the County Judge for an "Official" court order for the Bank as well as suspect "owner" to show the title search and thier deed claim date on the house. Was house subject to tax auction prior to your purchase and your intermediary (real estate agent/sale by owner)did not file the proper paperwork with the county and bank? |
Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:48am
Steven Seagal was "just a cook" in Under Siege. |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:48am
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im not sure if it was tax auction but it was being forclosed on and was about to be auctioned. (we had it pulled the day it went up.)
im so pissed right now. we have like 10k+ already sunk into the house... not to mention dozens of hours me, my gf, and our family members have put into fixing the house up. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:53am
Because as much as I found law, medicine, and other things interesting when I was in elementary school and jr high, I wanted to wind up doing something that made people happy on a daily basis while working with my hands and my creativity. Law is rote. You learn the laws, and the laws are the law. The only people who can change the laws are the legislatures who can write new laws, or judges and juries by setting precedence or striking down "unconstitutional" laws in the case of the Supreme Court. Cooking is fluid. You learn something every single day. Whether it's that you shouldn't marinate shrimp with pineapple overnight (try it, I DARE you!) or that adding 1/4 of a tsp of corn starch to a sauce base for an emulsified sauce will keep it from "breaking" under heat and stress. I also get to be creative on a daily basis and see the fruits of my labor in a timely manner. What's more, it pays well, and eventually I can go into teaching. Honestly, I'm always learning in other areas too. There are literally stacks of books by my bed. I find that if I can't read a book that I've checked out from the library by the time it is due, I've not read well enough. I never have to search for something to read either. Right now I'm finishing David Remnick's "Lenin's Tomb: The final days of the Soviet Empire" and will be moving on to the history of the battle of Agincourt next. After that, it's back to Chernobyl as I find it to be the best metaphor for the collapse of the USSR and the most stark example of how the Communist regime mistreated their people as a whole. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:54am
| A tax forclosure or a bank forclosure, that will be the initial focus of your search. If it is Tax, FHA and a few more alphabet agencies are involved, if it was a bank forclosure for failure to pay, there must be a previous "order to vacate" date, and the auction date, if your closing preceded that auction date, you will have a circus to deal with but a good real estate lawyer will make it happen, and ensure you sue the bank for legal costs, may make a great negotiation "pay off" number arise. |
Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:57am
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i mean you go from Politics, to Legal advice, to Food, then to completely owning someone without making it look like a flame what-so-ever.
My previous statement still stands that you need a TV show. -------------
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Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:57am
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I'm pretty sure you were burglarized. If you were robbed the dude(s) would have had a weapon, and would have forcibly taken something from you. All that being said, I'd like to ditto everything Tallen is saying, he's hitting the nail on the head. Of course, I do love when the cook beats the lawyer to legal advice. /fail Rambino.  ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 1:59am
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ok im going to get a drink and trying to sleep ive been up since 5AM and im far to stressed out to be thinking about this...
edit: drinking due to stress, anger, or depression are the wrong reasons. im just drinking to help me go to bed. i am also older than 21 and it is legal for me to consume alcohol. drink responsibly. and never drink and drive (you might spill) ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: rockerdoode
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:00am
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vodka. no rocks. just drink it before it cools down you woman.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:07am
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Rambs, good luck, don't let the bastards get you down. You'll be fine in this. So long as you and your Realtor and your bank which gave you the mortgage followed the proper procedures, you're golden and may even come out better than you went in. This is a major screw up on the foreclosing bank's part and is worthy of an FCC and SEC investigation if they try to jerk you around on it. You'll wind up fine, now get some sleep so you can be clear-headed tomorrow.
P.S. what state do you live in? If it's PA or NC/SC/GA I know some hella-good firms. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:17am
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va SS tidewater just over the NC line. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:30am
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So the house is physically in VA? If so, I got nuthin' unless I can get a friend of mine to call in a favor. At the very least I can get you a reference. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 7:34am
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yea house is in VA. if you can give me a reference or if you happen to talk to your friend and my situation happens to come up then it would be appreciated.
dont go out of your way for me though. im on my way now to go get my tools. i know the 1st thing i did when we bought it was take anything small/portable that might have had value and stuck it in our cars... ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 10:28am
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Damn that sounds crappy. Haven't been around here in a few days so this is the first I've heard of this.
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Posted By: XtremeBordom
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:05pm
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get a heavy-duty security door.
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:13pm
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doesnt matter how strong the door is if they can still drill the locks...
im going to look into getting some lock cylinders wired out of carbide and filling the housing with ball bearings... (if they try to drill it they will only snap their drills) they will have to burn/drill it off... more realistically they will have to bust down the door or go through a window. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:15pm
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Every smart burglar knows to invest in carbide drill bits. -------------
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Posted By: XtremeBordom
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:15pm
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no i mean the ones with the taper-proof.
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:26pm
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Merc, don't they make door locks made of hardened steel ? That alone would stop them. They'd cook their bit before they get anywhere near drilling through.
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:37pm
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carbide drill bits will drill hardened steel but a carbide cylinder would crack a carbide drill.
to cut carbide you basically need to do it with electricity or a diamond... a lock smith shouldent/wouldent have this at his disposal. im looking into how much carbide cylinders would cost and how much high security locks would be. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:44pm
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I'm guessing they use HSS bits, I also doubt they sharpen them so they probably all suck. Hardened would probably be good enough and I bet cost a lot less than carbide.
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Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 2:51pm
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yea im hoping to be able to get some end mill shanks from broken end mills to use as the material. i have a buddy thats a locksmith and he uses carbide drills.
the thing is locks are good for keeping people who dont want in, out. if they want in for any reason they can get in. professional lock smiths can get through most all locks. a good locksmith can pick them. a lazy lock smith can drill them. and now that i have found how easy it is to drill... im about to start researching locks and see if i can build one that is damn near imposable to bypass. just done loose your keys. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 3:10pm
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Loose your keys ? Jigsaw, cut out the lock and the dead bolt out lol.
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 4:36pm
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Posted By: .357 Magnum
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 4:42pm
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Damn that'd get hot.
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Posted By: Ace_Of_Spades
Date Posted: 06 September 2008 at 4:42pm
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Tallen, you totally stole what i was JUST typing, i hate you now, Racist -------------
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