Hard Cider: (Update in OP!)
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Topic: Hard Cider: (Update in OP!)
Posted By: tallen702
Subject: Hard Cider: (Update in OP!)
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:10pm
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I'll show you what real production looks like as soon as I find the USB cable for the camera.
That said, I used the following: 4G Local Apple Cider (Filtered) 1G Water 1# Crystal Malt Extract 1ea Pitchable Lab-Strain Champagne Yeast 1/2tsp Irish Moss 1ea Cinnamon Stick I boiled 1g of Cider with 1G water and 1# malt extract for 5 min, added in the Irish Moss (clarifier) and boiled for 10 min, added in the cinnamon and continued to boil for 5 more minutes. Racked the resultant wort through my sparging bag (think fine mesh bag) and then added the other 3 gallons of apple cider. Stirred the wort until it hit 80*F and pitched in the yeast. Racked it again into the primary fermentation vessel (carboy) and popped on the air-lock. Should be done fermenting in about 7-9 days for primary fermentation. I'll check the specific gravity and if the alcohol percentage is high enough, I'll go straight to bottle with a little priming sugar or honey (if it needs the floral flavor of the honey). If it isn't high enough, I'll run a secondary fermentation with a stronger yeast strain and then go to bottle after another week. ____ Update!_____ She's fermenting nicely! So much so that the "raft" that forms on top of the cider as it ferments is moving around on it's own due to the carbon dioxide release from the yeast cells. 
That's what a Cider rig should look like boys and girl. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
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Posted By: notXXscared
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:14pm
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tallen702 wrote:Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:41pm
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:43pm
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How much for a bottle? Do you ship to JMU? |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:46pm
Free, and I'll drop it by on my way to Charleston, WV for vacation. I'm in DC, so I run right through Harrisonburg rather frequently. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Pate
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:49pm
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Can I get a bottle?
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 15 September 2008 at 11:52pm
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Better card those forumers first.
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 12:09am
BYAHHHH!!!! Also, this winter, I'm taking the lady out for a three year anniversary thing. I've yet to go to your place, but I'm like 30 minutes away, and I was wondering if it would be a good place to go? |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 12:10am
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This thread prompted me to steal a Hornsby's from my roommate. edit- I've realized that Hornsby's is inferior to Woodchuck and Strongbow. Btw, Tallen, have you ever had a Rodenbach Redbach? ------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 12:20am
Hornsby's is indeed inferior, however woodchuck and strongbow are inferior to Magners. As for the Rodenbach, yes, I have. It is superior to a lot of kriek beers out there, but I still prefer framboise. I'm interested to see how this particular batch of cider works out. I didn't use a recipe, which can be risky, but my potential ABV is around 8% so I know I've got enough food in there for the yeast to do it's job. The only worry I have is that the yeast took 5 days of transit to get to me and sat in a fed-ex truck for two very hot days. If I don't get fermentation within a few days, I'll probably have to go get some yeast nutrient and some new lab-strains from a local shop. That said, I think it'll be fine as the poppet in the airlock is at it's topmost point even though the wort is cooling. That means something in there is alive and producing CO2. As for predatorr's question, yes, my restaurant is more than worth it for the 30min drive. Just ask Whale and Shorty. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 1:05am
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hell, just from what i've heard... i'm trying to make my way out there from wisconsin. of course there's other things out east i want to see. |
Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 1:08am
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I really want to try and make some but I have no clue how I will get it to turn out.
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 1:10am
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Shaweet. I'll be sure to be in when you're there, make sure my food doesn't have an surprises. Maybe I'll make me some cider...return the favor. Forum cider making contest? |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 8:09am
Nekk would definitely win. ------------- 
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Posted By: Pariel
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 1:38pm
...like me? I'm sure I can find tons of people to buy some from you Tallen. All under 21. Ah, college. 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 1:49pm
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As it is illegal to sell home-brew, let alone to someone under the age of 21, not a chance Pariel. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 4:23pm
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I want to say I've had Magner's before, but I'm not sure. At the very least, I've seen it somewhere. Can't find it anywhere around here though. There's a shop in Lima that has an amazing import and microbrew section. Next time I'm down there, I'll look for it. I like Framboise better than Redbach as well, but I haven't had a Redbach for so long, I miss them. My friend's bar used to stock them. Much more of a sour cherry taste than Framboise Kriek. ------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: XtremeBordom
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 6:49pm
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Posted By: procarbinefreak
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 6:52pm
| woodchuck and strongbow are my ciders of choice. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 7:02pm
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I'm jealous Tallen. I keep telling myself I want to give home-brewing(beer though), I just don't have the extra cash to put towards the kit right now, and I worry about the effort involved.
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Posted By: evillepaintball
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 7:12pm
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usaf, most of the effort is just letting it sit. work
on it for an hour, let it sit a few days, spend another hour or 2 let it sit for a while longer, etc. ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 7:41pm
For less of a price than Redbach, you can pick up the Haniami from Smutty Nose in the spring time. It's a "cherry blossom" ale which is very similar to Redbach. USAF, I didn't have any cash when I was in college due to the $70/wk marballizer habit I had. My room-mate and I went in together to buy our first brew-kit and set of ingredients. 1 5 gallon batch of brew equals about 48 bottles of beer. When you realize that it costs you about $40 for each of you to get your first batch done, it's well worth it. Midwest Homebrewing supply co has good kits for about $60. Add in another $20 for a "20 minute" all-extract kit and you're up and running on $80 split two ways or more. Don't buy bottles, get your local college bar to save you the non-twist-off bottles and a few cases to put them in. You'll just need to wash them really well and then sanitize them before you use them. When you realize that by the time you brew 2 batches, you've already paid for the kit, it's a wonderful thing. I sold off my share in the kit to my room-mate when we graduated as my brother in law gave me his old one. I've probably got more than $200 worth of supplies off him for free since he gave up brewing. I also have my CO2/N2 reg system and access to free 5G soda kegs for kegging. Once I buy a cold-plate and a cooler and tap heads, I'll be enjoying draught beer anytime I want. Well worth the investment. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Brian Fellows
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 8:04pm
| How do you feel about using Grolsch bottles? Eliminates the need for a capper. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 16 September 2008 at 9:09pm
The issue I have with Grolsch bottles is that you need to really like Grolsch to get enough bottles to do your bottling. You should also replace the rubber washer on the cap for each bottling as they are porous and can hold bacteria or wild yeast strains that will screw up your brew. Also, those style bottles are becoming more and more hard to find as grolsch has started selling their product in standard bottles. A decent "red baron" hand capper is only $13 at most and does just fine. Personally, I prefer kegging, but don't have the room right now to store the keg cold. Thus, the cold-plate will let me store the beer at room temp and rapidly chill it to consumption temp using a cooler. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 19 September 2008 at 1:36pm
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does it make a difference if the cider is pasteurized or
not? |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 19 September 2008 at 1:57pm
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There better be a bottle on its way to me. You already have my address. I'll send you some PBC merch in return.
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 19 September 2008 at 2:01pm
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we sohuld have a hard cider brew off. ill be getting a
kit here in the very near future. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 19 September 2008 at 2:55pm
Yes. If you use unpasteurized cider, you're running the chance of getting wild yeast strains in there. That can be beneficial in some circumstances or disastrous in others. It all depends on what yeast makes its way into the cider. Now, if you want to use unpasteurized but don't want the chance of wild yeast screwing things up, you can simply boil the wort for about 10-20 min just like you would with an all-extract beer kit. This will also allow you to add in extra sugar (I use a pound of brown sugar or malt extract) and fining ingredients such as spices, irish moss, polyclar, etc. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 19 September 2008 at 5:53pm
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Hey Tallen, I tried that whiskey finally. It's pretty good with some ice.
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 20 September 2008 at 12:12am
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 20 September 2008 at 1:40am
See, I've got access to all the free bottles I could ask for. That's the advantage of running an Irish restaurant and BAR. 
For my next batch, I'm thinking either a caramel porter (try to clone Saranac's seasonal one they put in their xmas pack) or Cloning "La Fin Du Monde" by Unibroue. I've got a clone-brew recipe for LFDM, but it'll run me $42 to brew it up. Mind you, it's 9% ABV and costs around $8-$10/4pk this side of the border with cannukistan, so it's still a savings. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 20 September 2008 at 7:51pm
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |