Frorum Smokers! (Of legal things)
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Topic: Frorum Smokers! (Of legal things)
Posted By: Predatorr
Subject: Frorum Smokers! (Of legal things)
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:29am
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Need smokables! Love cigars, and I need some good cigars to smoke. Perhaps a pipe and some good tobacco? I'm only 18 though, so I don't want to look like some tool bag with a pipe... Any suggestions would be awesome |
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:36am
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I don't see how smoking a pipe makes you look like a tool.
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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:41am
| I'm 18 and there's nothing like a pipe while on the golf course. |
Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:42am
| so...recommend me a pipe and some tobacco? |
Posted By: Brett Favre
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:46am
| I've been known to light up a cigar after every pigskin win. |
Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:48am
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Benjichang wrote:Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:52am
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Wrong kind of pipe.
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:53am
So the fact that it was glass and not a corn cob did that? ------------- My shoes of peace have steel toes. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:54am
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Posted By: gh0st
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 12:55am
| Even so, she doesn't appear to be a tool, just a meth head. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 8:27am
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There are so many types of pipes it's hard to recommend one. You can spend a few bucks or hundreds of dollars, and Dunhill makes a specialty pipe for about $1500. I spent about $40 and carved my own. You can make them most easily out of briar and even a cursory search on-line will steer you to all you need. Pre-drilled blocks are available. You just carve away. You can also make them from other materials, but that can be a much harder task.
I liked the one I made as well as anything I'd seen for sale and gave it to a friend for his birthday. Find one that you like the look and feel of, not forgetting that you can change the stem to suit. As far as pipe tobacco, I'd go and find a shop that sells it and try various types. It's pretty cheap for run-of-the-mill stuff, and you can get them in 1oz or 2oz bags most places so you can get a variety. Hell, you can make your own blend very easily, such as combining vanilla and bourbon. Pipe tobacco is more moist than cigarette tobacco and cavendish types are generally going to be more aromatic, but you can also find various "plain" types in a variety not disimmilar to coffee. (Dark, plain, light, and of various nationalities.) I know people who buy pouches of pipe tobacco to leave in their cars, never intending to smoke it. I generally steer clear of the packaged tobacco you'll find at a convenience store or grocery store. Packing can be tricky until you get the hang of it, and pipes do have a tendency to go out if you're not puffing away, but "stoking" the pipe can lead to burning holes in your pipe, which is very bad for it. You'll build up a carbon layer as the pipe is used (it will taste kind of nasty/funky until that buildup is there), and that will help protect it, but otherwise you want the pipe to remain clear of debris. ------------- 
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Posted By: Zata
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 10:03am
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My boss was smoking a cigar the other day I guess and he like passed out and hit his nose. Well now, he has 2 black eyes. But they are actually, black eyes. The whites of his eyes are black. Its really freaky looking. He seriously looks possessed. tl;dr smoking is bad |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 10:04am
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I have heard great reviews of J.M. Boswells "Berry Cobbler" and "Spice and Nice" pipe tobacco. http://www.boswellpipes.com/tobaccoblends.html - http://www.boswellpipes.com/tobaccoblends.html ------------- 
Benny go home! |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 11:05am
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For cigars, I always like the Partagas #8 Maduro and the Camacho Tripple Maduro.
For pipes, nothing beats a Peterson. Nothing. I've got to get to work now, I'll go into detail when I get there. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 11:11am
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http://www.pipesandcigars.com/peirseapib10.html - http://www.pipesandcigars.com/peirseapib10.html
Ooo, I want it. -------------
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Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 3:45pm
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Just smoke some cheap Phillys like the rest of us real 'Mericans ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 6:02pm
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A pipe won't make you look like a tool bag. I've been smoking one since I was 23 and was never accused of being a tool, a bag, or any combination there of. The thing to remember about pipes is that you need to make sure you enjoy smoking one before you commit to a high-end pipe. With that said, I highly suggest grabbing a corn-cob pipe from the local tobacconist or pharmacy as your first pipe purchase as you don't want to spend the requisite $20 for a decent machine-turned pipe (let alone $80+ for a peterson, dunhill, or other hand-made) if you wind up not liking it.
Go to a tobacco shop to get the tobacco. Don't smoke the stuff they have at Rite-Aid or CVS. All you're going to do is decide that it tastes like ass and give up what can be a really enjoyable experience without giving it the attention it deserves. Try various types of tobacco. Your aromatics are going to be different from your English blends. Your "tinned" tobaccos (dunhill, peterson, macbaren, etc) aren't what you want to start out on. You'll shell out $14 for a tin and might not like it. Start out with the loose stuff that they keep in the jars on the counter. Smell each one and see which ones seem like they'd taste good. Most tobacco shops will let you try a pinch in your pipe before committing to buying some. Make sure to take your time with this, it's all about what you like, not what some clerk thinks is best. If you like some off-the-wall berry blend that smells like nyquil and dimeatap had a love child, then that's what you like and pay no heed to what anyone else says. That said, you'll need to learn how to pack your bowl properly. You want the bottom layer to be spongy and loose to allow you to draw well. Above that, you should have a dense, but not tight, wad of tobacco. When packed properly, the tobacco should be springy, not loose, not packed in solidly. It should give slightly when poking it with your finger. Now, using either a butane lighter or matches, you'll hold the flame above the bowl of the pipe and draw the air through the pipe into your mouth. This will draw the flame to the pipe tobacco. Make sure to evenly light the tobacco, not leaving "hot spots" and "cold spots". Once lit, you will need to tamp the coal down into the rest of the tobacco in the pipe to allow it to smolder. You can use a pipe tamper, nail head, golf pencil, whatever, to do this. Remember to draw on the pipe after tamping it so you don't smother the coal. Now that it's lit and going well, you need to remember that this is a pipe, not a cigarette or cigar. It's alright if it goes out from time to time from not drawing on it enough. Unlike cigars, pipes don't build up ammonia through their burning, which means it will taste just fine if you have to re-light it. It is far worse to "hot smoke" a pipe. You don't want to constantly draw on it as the excess heat will cause the interior of the bowl to expand more rapidly than the exterior which can cause it to crack. A cracked pipe is a bad thing as there is no way to repair it. That said, you chose the right time of the year to take up a pipe. Fall, Winter, and Spring are all "pipe season". There's nothing better than sitting out on the deck in the crisp fall air with the leaves changing color all around you while smoking a pipe full of your favorite blend. It's even better when there's a scotch sitting right next to you. 
I hope this helps! Once you find out if you like it or not. I suggest saving up for a Peterson "System" pipe. It's the coolest, most moisture-free smoke you will ever find. Oh, a few notes on choosing which style to buy and care and cleaning! 1. Always clean a pipe after use. Normal maintenance is simply tapping the ashes/spent coals out against the bottom of your shoe or on a cork "pipe knocker" in a pipe-specific ash-tray. They should sell the knockers for about a buck or two at any tobacco shop. They just self-stick to the bottom of a flat-bottomed ash-tray. You also need to use a pipe cleaner to clean out the stem of the pipe. Run pipe cleaners through the stem until it they come out relatively clean. Usually only takes 2 or 3 pipe cleaners at most. 2) Occasionally cut down the "cake" on the interior of the pipe. You will get carbon build up on the interior wall of your pipe bowl as you smoke it. This is a GOOD THING! It insulates the body of the pipe bowl from heating too rapidly. However, if you let the carbon cake build up too far, it can expand more rapidly than the wood and crack the bowl. Occasionally use a reamer or the little blade on a pipe nail or pipe tamper to scrape down the interior and knock it out in the ash tray. Make sure to use a paper towel to get any fine particulate out of the bowl so you don't suck it up next time you use your pipe. That carbon cake is important. Make sure you only smoke half-bowls in your pipe for the first few times to help it build up. 3. Occasionally take your pipe to the store where you bought it to have them touch up the stem and finish. Most higher-end pipe stems are waxed with carnuba wax to keep them from getting damaged. Occasionally this wax oxidizes and needs to be stripped, re-applied, and buffed. Most shops will do this for free. 4. When choosing a pipe, you will notice that most are either straight stem or curved stem. A curved stem will reduce the chances of getting the moisture that builds up from burning the tobacco from getting sucked up into your mouth as you smoke your pipe. It is an unpleasant taste that you wish to avoid if possible. Such features as the "Peterson System" will help you avoid this even better as they have a large chamber between the inlet hole for the smoke from the bowl and the pipe stem itself. This chamber will trap the moisture and cool the smoke before it gets to your mouth, making for a much more enjoyable experience. 5. Removing the stem can aid in cleaning the pipe or removing any "clinkers" which may block the inlet hole or the stem itself. Do not, under any circumstances, remove the stem while the pipe is hot. This can cause the stem and bowls to crack. Wait until the pipe has cooled to remove the stem. That said. Enjoy your pipe! It's a great way to relax and non-addictive. You'll find that unlike cigarettes and cigars, you can put it down for months at a time if you wish. Also, chicks dig the smell of pipes, but usually dislike the smell of cigars.
Oh, and here's the http://www.peterson.ie/default2.asp - Peterson website ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 6:10pm
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I can attest to females digging the smell of pipe tobacco.
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Posted By: Enos Shenk
Date Posted: 24 September 2008 at 6:59pm
I paid $30 for my Peterson Used, but the local tobbaconist sells great quality used pipes and good tobacco.------------- 
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 8:52am
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depends on how much you want to pay for a cigar. for cheaper cigars some of my favorites are the CAO Brazillia Gol and Sancho Panza which should run under 5$ I also recommend Rocky Patel vintage 1990 and 1992 as well as rockey patel sun grown, Sol Cubano maduro, cuesta rey, partagas (especially the spanish rosado), montecristo white if you like them more mild, Carlos Tarano exodus 1959. just to name a few that really stood out to me. |
Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 9:01am
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Pipe smoking is the bomb, people who say you look like a tool just wish they could look as awesome as you.
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 9:32am
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Get a hookah.
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Posted By: BARREL BREAK
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 6:56pm
| Been meaning to buy a pipe for awhile, going to the tobacconist near campus soon. |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 7:34pm
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I wonder if pipe smoking is starting to gain some more popularity again. It seems the current generation of older teens/20 somethings is more receptive to it.
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 7:36pm
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personally i find pipe smoke to be too harsh. it always
leaves my tongue irritated to the point where drinking cola and such afterwards can be mildly painful |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 8:26pm
It's gained popularity with the younger crowd over the past decade or so, but still doesn't hold a candle to the number of cigar smokers out there. Pipes tend to be more of a private affair, you rarely see more than one person smoking a pipe at a time in a restaurant or bar. Usually, pipe smokers like the relaxation of the whole process of smoking a pipe. Much like using a mug and brush with a double-edged safety razor or straight razor, the whole ritual, not just the act, is what contributes to its appeal. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: fractus.scud
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 8:44pm
True, and that is probably a good thing. Cigars gained an almost fad like popularity for some time, and forget cigs. My idea of some quality time with a pipe is crabbing on the bay or relaxing on the beach on a warm evening after all the bennys are gone, just to take things slow for a few hours. -------------
Benny go home! |
Posted By: Glassjaw
Date Posted: 25 September 2008 at 9:43pm
Agreed, but I do enjoy pipe smoking as well as cigars. I might pick up a cigar soon because of this thread. ------------- |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:18am
Tallen, I had the pleasure of choosing my birthday gift this year, given a budget, and on your recommendation I decided on a Peterson. (I was in the market, but went with this.)
It should be here Friday and my birthday is Tuesday. Now I get to go pick out something to stuff in there. Edit: Peterson Racing Green spigot (999), fishtail stem. -------------
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 8:37am
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^Nice looking pipe. I've only ever smoked cigars but
after reading all of this stuff about pipes, I kinda want to try it out now. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 9:04am
Wow! that is gorgeous! Nice pick up! The only thing different I would have done is possibly gone for the "P-Lip" stem rather than the normal draw hole, but that's a personal preference. That's an amazing piece! Nice job! ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 9:12am
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I considered the p-lip, but the spigot types come standard with the fishtail. I wanted the spigot because it's a bit better than a normal one for taking out while it's still warm, not that I plan to if it can be helped, but for traveling purposes or at school between classes.
I also almost went with a bulldog. 
I had to order on-line, but I went and looked at similar models in a store. They had almost no Peterson pipes at all. The one I chose is 1.7oz, which isn't too heavy, and the bowl is 1.3 inches deep, much smaller than my "home" pipe, but good for a more casual experience. -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 9:29am
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I miss Funky. :(
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Posted By: evilzook
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:37am
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i smoke a pipe and rollies. I dont really smoke cigars often, because here in AUSTRALIA we have a poor selection, but i was recently introduced to chewing tobacco..... IM IN LOVE. its a filthy thing my mates all reckon, but its a great way to get a nico rush ------------- here for the carnage "if god did not intend us to eat animals, why did he create them out of meat?" |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:56am
Not that I smoke pipe or anything but I personally wouldn't use a used pipe. You never know what the last guy did with it. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: mamasboi
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 12:58pm
QFT |
Posted By: sporx
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:48pm
seriously though, go to a smoke shop and ask for a rose. ------------- 
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Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 2:06pm
Well, any pipe shop worth their salt will ream the bowl, disinfect it, change the stem, and generally re-condition it to the point that it doesn't matter. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |
Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 2:11pm
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One of my good friends works at a Pipe shop. They make crazy pipe sets the sell for like Thousand+ overseas. ------------- I ♣ hippies. |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 2:17pm
This piece by Todd Johnson is pretty unique. I don't know that I'd like to smoke it, but it looks pretty amazing, like a fish on a spear.
And a better "speared fish," I think, by Kei'Ichi Gotoh. 
Edit: One more... wow.  -------------
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Posted By: TheWrAith
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 2:41pm
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Those are some very nice looking pipes Rifidom. I've smoked tobacco out of hookahs before, 100x better than smoking any type of cigerette, the taste is just great, I suppose it would be some what the same smoking good tobacco out of a nice pipe. But i'm more of a cigar person, Dutch's, phillies, and White Owls.. But man are those some fine looking pipes... especially the first one.. ------------- Black*1* then*1* White Are*2* All I see*3* in my infancy*5* red and yellow then came to be*8* reaching out to me*5* lets me see*3* Swing on the Spiral= 1,1,2,3,5,8,13,8,5,3,2,1 |
Posted By: reifidom
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 2:46pm
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Not to say that those will be excellent smokers, but if you feel like sucking on a smoldering piece of art you could do a lot worse.
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Posted By: Predatorr
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:02pm
These are not cigars. The first thing I ever smoked was a Honey Dutch. I thought it was alright. Then I moved up to the big boys; my friend's dad belongs to Cigar Aficionado, and flies out to Vegas each year for a convention. He hooked me up with some Fuente's and a few others. I tried to smoke a philly after that and nearly gagged. The difference is astounding, the way it's packed, wrapped, everything. Dropping the extra cash on a legit cigar is worth it. Just do it one day, you won't regret it. |
Posted By: tallen702
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:20pm
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I've got a pic of two pipes that DeTrevni and Gatyr might be interested in. I'll upload them tonight. ------------- <Removed overly wide sig. Tsk, you know better.> |