Gang Related
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Topic: Gang Related
Posted By: Ceesman762
Subject: Gang Related
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:15pm
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This week my 13 yr old nephew witnessed in his school a "beat in", ear marks of MS13. . I can't drive too many places without seeing some gang sign, recently I was in Weaverville NC, and what is sprayed on a wall, MS13. I have been curious how we can combat these cliques/gangs? What are your thoughts and opinions?
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:16pm
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Ugh. Move. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Uncle Rudder
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:16pm
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MS13 will mess you up boi ------------- 
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Posted By: Ford
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:17pm
YEA YEA, REPRESENTINS YO. ------------- 
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Uncle Rudder wrote:Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:19pm
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Move? wasn't that your reply during an early T and O about crime, susan?
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:22pm
Seriously, you need to. MS-13s are vicious. The true sects down here and in Mexico are sworn to kill any cop they come into contact with, and they have been known to behead rival gang-members or people that mess up around them. I knew some ridiculously (I know I overuse this word, but in every sense of the definition, I mean it now more than ever; think guns, tasers, knifes, etc in their possession at all times) tough guys in high school, and ALL of them knew not to mess with the MS-13s. Again, move. ------------- 
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:22pm
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Could be - you'll have to refresh my recollection. So many debates, so many years... :) ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:27pm
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Susan/Akmed/Cthulu it was about home invasion. and where to move? And when they spring up there? sell my home, uproot my family and move again? where do you live Susan?
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:35pm
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Ah. Home invasion thread. Gotcha. I live in a quiet peaceful suburban neighborhood. Used to live a dangerous city neighborhood. Moved as fast as I could. Obviously moving isn't always an option, but I think many of us are too inertia-driven and don't give enough thought to more extreme solutions - like moving. Gangs are no good, and MS13 is really really no good. There frankly isn't much you can do, except maybe join the gang yourself. Hence the best suggestion I can offer is "move". ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:39pm
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:43pm
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abandon the community because of them? or remove them from the community? I too live in a suburban neighborhood. I have crips, bloods, latin kings, H.A., P groups, the like within my quiet suburban neighborhood. No matter where you go, they will be there soon. So, what should a community do about this? Live it to them and get the hell out?
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Posted By: AoSpades
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:46pm
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Electrify every metal surface in your house before you go to bed and when you leave the house. Just don't forget about it the first few times, I guarantee you won't forget ever again. -------------  |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:49pm
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Well, I figure it depends in large part on whether you have a family or not. Do you have some moral duty to aid your neighborhood, and generally improve society? Perhaps. Depends. Is that duty dwarfed by your moral duty to protect your children from harm? Without a doubt, in my opinion. I would uproot and move far, far away if needed to provide safety for my children. And gangs most certainly are not everywhere. Some parts of the country are obviously more infested than others, but there are plenty of safe areas, even in large cities. I don't mean to be flip, and this is obviously a very difficult situation - but I do think that "move" tends to get discarded far too quickly. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:52pm
so do nothing and leave is your best answer, Susan. Ace, if I were to abandon my home, and booby trap it, there would be a lot worse than electricity waiting for the fool who roles on in.
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:56pm
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Leaving is quite different from doing nothing. Leaving is taking drastic measures to protect yourself and your family from harm. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:58pm
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and the rest of the community? friends and neighbors?
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:58pm
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"Sir13s" are seriously no joke. I hung out with plenty of people that were in gangs and stuff in high school, and up until 10th grade I had a friend or two in S13. Sir13's were seriously the most brutal gang member's I ever came into contact with. Even as VERY young teenagers(12/13) they were more than willing to go through a brutal initiation where they had to beat someone up, and then be beaten themselves by the members of the very gang they were trying to join. As to how to solve it? Good luck. That's like telling two countries to just get along. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 4:59pm
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can anyone link me to the Sammies who got those tanks? maybe I can get a good deal.
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 5:34pm
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Like I said - not easy. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Zata
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 7:41pm
Based on what I've learned about combating gangs, is that they seem to crumble apart when their leaders are taken out of the equation. When I say 'taken out', I mean dead. Under cover agents spend years working their way into gangs to collect evidence and prosecute them. But if you ask me, its a bit of a waste. Even from prison, gang leaders still have quite an influence. Usually they only end up dead during some sort of public fight/shoot out with another gang which results in civilian casualties. Theres really no easy solution. |
Posted By: Gator Taco
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 7:50pm
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tech9 ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trailgator01 - last.fm |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 8:23pm
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Just watch Falling Down with Kirk Douglas.
"YOU FORGOT THE BRIEFCASE!!!" ------------- 
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 8:36pm
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"Bring out the gimp?" Hmm... different movie. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 8:39pm
Death Sentence with Kevin Costner ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: SSOK
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 9:09pm
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Solutions: 1. Kill them all = You dieing. 2. Move = Not always possible. 3. Go on your daily life, ignore the bad things in life, be friendly with most people = You alive, and well. ------------- 
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Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 9:31pm
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Meh, I don't agree with all this running away hype.
While it does depend on if you have a family or not, standing your ground is the most honorable way to do it, in my opinion. Worse comes to worse, you die. At least you die trying. And, at least you die for a REASON. If you stick around, you may as well be just another statistic. I'm not saying to actively pursue trouble in a Punisher or vigilante sense (although it would be freaking awesome), I'm saying don't be a coward, like some on here would like to be. Fight or flight, my good man. But, like I said, it's only my personal point of view. ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 9:36pm
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Dying to stand your ground doesn't make you a hero. It makes you dead, and it makes your wife a widow and your children fatherless. And fight? You guys have all been watching too many Chuck Norris movies. I'm not saying to be a coward. I'm saying not to be an idiot, and know what you can and cannot accomplish, and know what your true obligations are. Sometimes you have to sacrifice ego to do the right thing, even if internet tough guys call you a coward for it. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 9:45pm
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Geez, why are you always right there when I make a post...I don't even post that often.
Ahem, anyways. Firstly, nobody said anything about being a hero. Doing things to be a hero is the stupidest reason to do anything. Second, I mentioned that it depends highly, if not entirely, on if you have a family to think about or not. I used the word fight as in the example of instinctual reactions..."fight", in this case, could mean many different things. Most things which don't involve flight could be construed as fighting (or acting). But your a smart person, you figured all this out on your own as you read the post. You just like arguing. Now that's something I can respect. And I'm not some internet tough guy, either. I am no different on the internetz than I am in real life, as I'm sure most people on here are. Lastly, I was born and raised in montreal. I lived through the Hell's Angels VS Bandidos, The mafia, haitian/vietnamese/russian/jamaican Gangs. I know what I'm talking about, I've seen it and seen the aftermath. Most of the time, gangs/organized crime, doesn't much like having the spotlight on them when normal people stand they're ground. They do, however, absolutely love it when people pack up and leave so they can roam around and thrive in new neighbourhoods. You can't always live in fear, my friend. ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 9:49pm
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I should apologize - I am heavily multi-tasking at the moment and not quite paying attention to anything. My prior post was directly addressed to you (Thor), and should not be read as an attack. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Thor
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 10:01pm
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I should apologize as well, my post was not intended as a reaction to an attack. I thought we were all adept at point/counterpoint conversations on here. That's why I keep coming back to this forum even though I'm n o longer in its age demographic.
Your apology is accepted. Bygons. ------------- A second class drive is always better than a first class walk. |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 10:07pm
What do you expect standing up to them to accomplish? Around here, being a different ethnicity than the gang whose turf your treading, or merely being alone is grounds for them to attack or rob you. "Standing your ground" doesn't seem viable when these individuals simply aren't intimidated by police, much less a regular person. What would you expect to do with staying put? Hoping to outlive the gang? Short of a vigilante militia to wipe out the gang, there is next to nothing to do that will keep you and your family safe. -------------
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Posted By: gh0st
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 10:33pm
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Posted By: € Råp¡Ð F¡rè €
Date Posted: 26 September 2008 at 11:49pm
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Move. If you've got a family to protect, you need to move. We've got a little girl, and we're trying to get out of here for her sake. If it were just you, I would say to decide for yourself. I myself prefer the urban/city setting, but when it comes down to the welfare of family members, you gotta do whats safest. ------------- 
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 1:09am
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First problem is that you're discussing this on the internet. Now your only options are completely legal ones. If you were going to go all deathwish you already failed.
The other problem is you probably can't tell real gang/gang sign from the pathetic raisin sack street theatre copy cats. (I can't) I've started keeping a good digital camcorder cued up so when there are shots, I can at least try to get a license plate or good footage of their face. It's also fun to call the police and report every little thing you see them doing wrong. I've called the dispatcher(I guess?) for dummies parked smoking weed or sitting on the hood with open containers. I do not have to give my name and I do not tie up 911 for junk like that. You can also get code enforcement and animal control involved if they are screwing up the neighborhood (grass too tall, animals unfed and chained, broken windows, too many vehicles). The odds of needing deadly force are very slim - But (unless you live in Texas) you need to know your state laws and such so you don't end up in prison after "defending" yourself. ------------- My shoes of peace have steel toes. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 1:26am
Score! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 1:27pm
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Listn to Gaytr. You don't wanna mess with MS13. ------------- I ♣ hippies. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 5:04pm
Hmmph! MS13 don't wanna mess with me. What? Hold on a sec. Really? No kiddin . . . wow. Disregard previous comment as I have just been informed that MS13 has nothing whatsoever to do with young teenage girls. -------------
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Posted By: Captain Falcon
Date Posted: 27 September 2008 at 5:15pm
| JohnnyHopper and Mack imo; have had the best solutions. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 1:59pm
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Thank you all for your input. JohnnyHopper came the closest to what we are already doing. We parents (about 200 of us) have been photographing, video taping, reporting to the gang unit any new grafitti. So far it is working, I just want some more to go with because of my nephew. I don't want him getting hurt or ending up in the wrong element. In my community, there are more of us then there are of them.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 2:16pm
If you can keep it that way (and continue doing what you are doing) you should be able to maintain your neighborhood. Gangs are like cockroaches; they can't stand the light. Good luck. -------------
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 2:29pm
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Thanks Again Mack.
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Posted By: Roweazie
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 2:45pm
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MS13 in NC? maybe their just wanna be MS13. hunt them down one by one like Elmer Fudd, "Be vewwy, vewwy quiet...I'm hunting MS13!". look for other rival gang and write MS13 in there territory, and let them kill each other. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 3:00pm
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yep, in NC, the mug shots in the local papers shows them and the lovely tattoos they sport.
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Posted By: Roweazie
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 3:39pm
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those ppl will get deported back to el salvador -------------
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 4:35pm
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I was assuming that they had already gained enough strenth in the area to intimidate the community enough so that innaction was the only safe discourse. You're doing the right thing so long as their numbers aren't being allowed to grow.
They'll die before they get incarcerated if they are like the local gangs. -------------
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 4:50pm
I'll be honest. I hadn't even ever heard of MS13 before this thread. I had to google to figure out what you were talking about.
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 5:02pm
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No sweat Gatyr. They haven't over run the town, we are just trying to more to prevent that from happening and keeping people from getting harmed in the process. You would be surprised what other communites have done and how far they have taken this fight. Talked with a guy who cliams to have burned down some of thier clique houses/hangouts. I can't find anythign to confirm that. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 5:11pm
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1. Move 2. CCW&Handgun 3. Be a victim There are your options. ------------- 
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 7:17pm
Worst part about that is that I knew it was Kevin Bacon..... in fact when I read the fixed, I was like "What the hell did he fix?" I went back and looked at my post. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 11:15pm
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 29 September 2008 at 11:35pm
Ignorance is fun right? Seeing as we have arguably the largest illegal immigration rates in the southeast(sans Florida) due to our booming agriculture. Your post is a great example of ALL the ignorance that's been shown in this thread. Gangs are not a laughing matter, they're not something the PTA can deal with, and someone standing on their porch waving a broom isn't going to solve the problem. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 9:12am
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True, I'm not joking about this and the PTO can't handle this, but working as a community with the police you can make a difference. And it already has. The beat in my nephew witnessed at his school had been dealt with, the known members were removed from the school and several were arrested for outstanding warrants. a known hang out for a clique has been raided and closed. They are still there, but take away there greatest weapon, fear and numbers, a community can and will prevail. Many of you say "move". and what happens when the gangs come to your new home town? Move again? keeping moving until you can't run anymore? what then? I am not poking any fun at this. I want some additional ideas that may help others. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: notom66866
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 10:11am
| One of the best ways to combat gangs is to staunch their new recruitment.Get together with community leaders and start an outreach program,have community events for young people. Make sure than the community youths ALWAYS have an activity they can do. If they're not on the street their chances of starting to bang are greatly reduced. |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 10:30am
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Kill them all. Problem solved.
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Posted By: JohnnyHopper
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 10:32am
You sound so presidential, is that why you're so far ahead in the polls? </bias> :) ------------- My shoes of peace have steel toes. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 11:25am
Caesman, that was not directed at you, it was directed at every e-peen influeced post that thinks it's an easy situation to deal with. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 11:33am
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No sweat. usafpilot. I'm just making sure that you know I am not taking this lightly or your situation in Fla. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 11:40am
Never heard of the "ms13"'s before ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 11:58am
Really? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mara_Salvatrucha - Read I'm actually surprised that the wikipedia doesn't say how brutal they supposedly are. http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-01-05-gang-grows_x.htm - An article that does just that ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 11:58am
I'm in NC too, I know how it can be in a lot of places here. Charlotte has higher crime rates than NY or Chicago. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: Roweazie
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 6:18pm
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anyways as already emplied before...its best for the community to get together w/law enforcement to come out with better solutions. It seems like the law enforcement are already on top of it. -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 6:22pm
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You weren't being sarcastic, you're just trying to cover your tracks.
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Posted By: Enmity
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 8:22pm
SNAP ------------- 
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Posted By: Roweazie
Date Posted: 30 September 2008 at 8:39pm
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Posted By: Hades
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 12:10am
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Some people watch too much History channel and Msnbc investigates. ------------- 
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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 12:38am
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..And others experience it first hand and understand that those shows don't even cover half of what gang violence really is! And I actually think that Row really was being sarcastic. To use an elmer fud reference, you'd have to be. Did you seriously not pick up on that when you read it or do you just feel like hating? ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: evilzook
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 4:17am
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well, hey, i have no real idea of serious gang wars im in AUSTRALIA. everynow and again on the news we hear about gang related violence in the bigger cities, but nowhere near the violence and fear of what you lot go through in the U.S. But gang related warfare is increasing I dont really understand why, but it is everywhere and getting bigger stronger, uglier. but Im from inland, away from the coast, and not in the biggest city (Tamworth about 60 000 people including surrounding districts) so we dont get too much. the worst we get is rival bike gangs, which blows up for a couple of monthes, then all of a sudden disappears, along with a few people here and there. ------------- here for the carnage "if god did not intend us to eat animals, why did he create them out of meat?" |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:15am
Don't mock Elmer! -------------
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:19am
I know, how come anyone who uses cartoon analogies these days is never taken seriously.  ------------- ? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:38am
Agweed. The wuld is just so wery, wery unfaiwr. -------------
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:44am
Really... we don't really have gangs like that in Canada. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:49am
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What about the Hell's Angels? I understand they are a big problem in Montreal. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 12:14pm
They were a big problem all over Canada in the past but it has been getting better. "the road to hell" is a good book on that if anyone is interested. Besides, the hell's angels are nothing compared to the gangs in the US. Hell... your gang murders probably outnumber our total murders per year. (looking into that later) ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 12:43pm
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No around us (carl and I) it's more mobbed up. Not too many gangs. Toronto probably has its fair share but around Hamilton theres really nothing. I'm convinced Hamilton has some pretty shady police though. How else do poeple know a day before there ops are going to get clipped? But there are biker gangs. But there on the down low. |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:08pm
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Our gangs are all about money, not the social hierarchy/status you see with the lower class youth gangs in the states. Ours tend toward traditional
organized crime, and consequently try to keep a low profile. You get some of the idiot wannabes calling themselves crips or bloods, but it's a very minor problem in the grand scheme of things. ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:09pm
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As I understand it, You guys crush them before they get too big. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:10pm
Its a good thing Carl is there to bludgeon how awesome Canada is into my head every third post he makes. I might forget.  ------------- ? |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:28pm
Carl says: Vote for Canada in your upcoming election! ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:30pm
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PUDDING PARTY '08 ------------- I ♣ hippies. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:30pm
Hamilton was 100X worse than Toronto especially for the Hell's Angels in the late 90's/early 2000's. Oh and I don't live near Hamilton anymore. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:35pm
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Also... BRIHARD!!!!
How is Afghanistan? ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 1:35pm
You know, given the freakin choices I have, "Canada" just might show up as a write in candidate. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 2:05pm
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ABout 3 years ago I was up in Calgary and they had my most favorite New Yawker (sarcasm) visiting and promoting thier coming, Curtis Sliwa and the Guardian Angels. Did they ever make it up there or did you guys stop them at the border? ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: Cheetos3254
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:17pm
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Posted By: notom66866
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 3:33pm
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Most of the biker gangs up here , the hells, the rock machine,the baditos, are all about selling drugs. In Montreal we also have Mafia to deal with. Three or four different families to deal with. But its really low key, it too is all about drugs and gambling, not too many killings up here in Montreal. |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 6:47pm
Montreal mafia... do go on... I may be up in Montreal this weekend and am going to have to check this out. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 9:00pm
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You live in Canada. Shut up you don't have any gangs.....
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Posted By: evilzook
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 9:30pm
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we have banditos, hells angels, commancheros, gypsy jokers, gladiators, rebels, triads and so on, primarily about selling drugs, a little on the gambling, prostitution side, we do have "turf wars" where one bikie group controls a certain suburb, or highway, or town. then another group wants it, shows up in town it goes hell for leather for a bit. then dies as quick as it blows up, and sometimes, there are a few new faces in town, people get their drugs from a new guy......... hmmmm the world just keeps rolling ------------- here for the carnage "if god did not intend us to eat animals, why did he create them out of meat?" |
Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:01pm
| All the gang members I've encountered around the Asheville NC area are fake. MS13, latin kings, crips, bloods. They are all BS kids that are getting paid my a dope dealer to run the weed. They wouldnt do anything but punch you in the face and steal your motorcycle. I saw a MS13 guy once when I was in highschool pull a gun to scare somebody, and get beat up with a stick, because he was scared to use the gun. I'm not worried about gangs in western northcarolina, they won't come near people like myselfs' homes. |
Posted By: usafpilot07
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:05pm
Charlotte is in Western, NC. Go mess with the "fake" gangsters there. Or go east where there's any type of agricultural area. ------------- Buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:34pm
And what made you thnik he is MS13? Also, just because they're in a gang doesn't mean they're automatically ready to shoot someone. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Savage93fvss
Date Posted: 01 October 2008 at 11:54pm
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Charlotte is in the peidmont foo. The big MS one three on the stomach, that pretty much gave it away. And if you can't shoot somebody that is gonna kick your ass your not "hard". |