Debate!
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Topic: Debate!
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Subject: Debate!
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:03pm
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Tom Brokaw talks funny. He sounds like an SNL skit about Tom Brokaw. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:04pm
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GAH! ECHO! Somebody fix the sound, for goodness' sake. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:04pm
Lol so true. Also this firsty question asker guy looks like an actor who I can't name. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Bruce Banner wrote:Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:08pm
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There's a debate on?
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:10pm
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Whoever gets Warren Buffett to agree to be Secretary of the Treasury gets my vote. /fantasy ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:11pm
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Crap I cant believe I forgot about this. ------------- 
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:13pm
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Oh snap! McCain went there with "Obama and his cronies."
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:13pm
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lol He told the black guy he probably never heard of Fannie Mae ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:15pm
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Question: This "town hall" format that McCain likes - does it make him look old when he wobbles around, or does it remind everybody of his war wounds? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:18pm
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Why can't the American workers just be "good?" Why do they always have to be "the best in the world?" Hyperbole is annoying. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:19pm
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I am in fact the best in the world.
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Posted By: impulse!
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:20pm
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How how how, can we we, trust, you, both parties, with our our money. Ta ta ta today JR! ------------- 
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:23pm
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I think McCain has been practicing some new lines, while Obama is sticking to old ones. McCain passed on "maverick" and went with "reformer" instead. Also "look at our records, not just our rhetoric." So far Obama is all old stuff, I think. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:29pm
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McCain just said Reagan. Time to take a shot.
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:30pm
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Hmm... Obama is talking about stuff. McCain is talking about himself. Which is better? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:31pm
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Obama just said 9/11. Does it count if a Democrat says it? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:31pm
Obama said JFk... ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:33pm
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There needs to be a Godwin's law for political debates. Except instead of Hitler, it needs to be 9/11 ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: pntbl freak
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:33pm
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Time!
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:39pm
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"The Straight Talk Express lost a wheel" - cute. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:43pm
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I think it's safe to say Tom Brokaw is going to win. ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:43pm
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McCain says fixing social security isn't hard - but he isn't going to tell us how... :/ And his plan for fixing Medicare sounds a lot like President Camacho's three-point plan for fixing the economy. Good lord. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:45pm
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Jesus, he just said Reagan again. BTW, the debate is going in chat as well.
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:46pm
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Man do I agree with McCain on nuclear. The Democrats need to get on board with that
- but oops - there he went with the "best innovators in the world" again... ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: TheSpookyKids87
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:48pm
/agree |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:49pm
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Gah! I'm not McCain's friend! ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:52pm
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lol Sure you are... we all are. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:53pm
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:55pm
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McCain's health care "plan" sucks ass. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 9:59pm
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This is rockin' it pretty hard. Both guys are ignoring the rules and questions and almost yelling at each other. Outstanding. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:00pm
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Now we are "the greatest force for good in the history of the world" - will the hyperbole never end? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:02pm
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No it will never end and 9/11 again. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:03pm
lol obama said it too ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Snake6
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:04pm
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If he says "My Friends" again I swear I will murder someone.
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:05pm
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Just be happy he isn't winkin' atcha. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:06pm
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McCain should had hired Hack Saw Jim Duggan to march behind him with the 2x4 and flag. -------------
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:06pm
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*calls base MP at fort leonardwood to investigate a murder* ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:07pm
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Excellent idea - but who would be Obama's banner wrestler? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:11pm
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Obama: "Pahkistahn" and "Tahlibahn" Bets on how McCain says it? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:12pm
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Taleebahn
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:15pm
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Brokaw has officially lost control. Awesome. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: TheSpookyKids87
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:15pm
| McCain always blinks a lot. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:15pm
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Brokaw is the winner. I WANT EQUAL TIME WAAAAA ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:16pm
Iron Sheik?  -------------
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:16pm
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lol ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:22pm
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Goddammit, I can't believe I forgot about this. Is it still on?
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:23pm
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Nvmd. I got it on now.
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Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:23pm
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Benji - yes Can somebody please explain to Obama what the green, yellow, and red lights mean? ------------- 
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:24pm
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Uh oh - Brokaw just said Reagan. World explode? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: ¤ Råp¡Ð F¡rè ¤
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:25pm
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So was the "Yes or no" question serious? Did Brokaw really expect either to answer with just a yes or no?
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:28pm
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Ooh - is this the "I <3 Israel" portion of the presentation? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:28pm
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I lol'd at "2nd Holocaust". What the hell...
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:30pm
I lol'd at McCain's response. "How evil they are depends on how we react to them." Wonderful. ------------- 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:33pm
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"What I don't know is what the unexpected will be." O RLY? ------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:36pm
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Pretty good debate. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:38pm
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I'm still mad I missed most of it. They're saying no real clear winrar on this one.
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:39pm
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Man - just got stacked. Set of eights to set of aces. Grr. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:45pm
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I <3 TB Pickens. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:53pm
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Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:55pm
only person with a reasonable and doable Energy Policy -------------
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Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:56pm
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LOLITICS
Straight talk express just lost a wheel. I lol'd so hard. |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 10:57pm
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How dare you "meh" TBP? ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 11:00pm
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Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 11:00pm
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HAI, IM TEEE BOOONE PIYCKENS!!
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Posted By: ANARCHY_SCOUT
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 11:17pm
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RON PAUL 08' I still hold strong to my candidate of choice. ------------- Gamertag: Kataklysm999 
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 11:20pm
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 07 October 2008 at 11:30pm
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Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 10:13am
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So, having slept on it and read some of the polls, my theory is this: McCain went pretty hard on the offensive, as was required since he is behind. This probably helped him. But - by going offensive, he allowed Obama to address one of his flaws (his perceived coolness) by indignantly defending himself. Obama showed righteous anger without getting riled, which I think settled some doubts about whether he really cares. Therefore McCain's offensive strategy may have backfired by benefiting Obama more than McCain. Also interesting was the lack of attacks related to Ayers and Wright. Clearly done on purpose. The folks at NRO are livid about this, but I can only conclude that the staffers determined that while these "bad friends" issues motivate the far right, they alienate the middle. Either way, I think this is officially the end. It would take something drastic for Obama to lose now. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 10:44am
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I commented on this in chat during the debate. Obama's reference to the straight talk express, his semi-passive-aggressive quips before his actual response, his frustration regarding his chance to provide refutations to McCain's responses, and (my personal favorite) his "Well, look..." that was effectively a "who the hell gave the mic to Grandma Senility?" made me rethink my comment in chat at the very begining of the debate that alluded to Obama's dgaf attitude. McCain really needs something big to help his campaign out now that his VP pick has shown that mediocrity is an acceptable goal for the VP seat and that he can't come out ahead enough in debates to bridge the gap between him and Obama. -------------
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 11:05am
Iteresting to see your opinion on this, Bruce. It's not over yet, and I hope Obama keeps gaining ground. I'd really like to see a landslide victory. I'm still worried though. I think Palin is really starting to become a thorn in McCain's side, rather than a Godsend. I saw one guy on CBS (I think) make an interesting point. He was one of the "uncommitted" voters in their post-debate discussion. He said that McCain going on the offensive reminded him too much of the GOP's "with us or against us" attitude of the last 8 years, and said that it was something he was tired of. ------------- irc.esper.net #paintball |
Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 08 October 2008 at 5:21pm
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I rarely take offense to anything like a name, it's just frustrating when people associate the stupid people that support a candidate with the candidate him/herself. -------------
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