Black Ice
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Topic: Black Ice
Posted By: Zata
Subject: Black Ice
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 9:43pm
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ACDC's new album comes out Saturday I think, but I just finished downloading it. Listening to it now, I'm hoping its really good, as ACDC is one of my favorites. |
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Posted By: Tical3.0
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 10:15pm
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They are playing in Toronto here soon and I'm debating on going. My friend grabbed up 5 nice tickets. ------------- I ♣ hippies. |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 10:21pm
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That first song is actually pretty good.
But, like every other AC/DC song, the radio is overplaying it constantly, and I'll be sick of it before Christmas. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 10:23pm
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I think I'd rather step on a nail than listen to AC/DC willingly.
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 11:01pm
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And I don't think there's a Bob Dylan song out there that doesn't annoy the crap out of me. AC/DC is coming to town in December. Needless to say, I've got tickets. :) ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Benjichang wrote:Posted By: GI JOES SON
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 11:03pm
| im going to the concert at madison square garden nov. 12. should be a good show, always wanted to see them |
Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 11:42pm
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Overrated band with extremely similar songs every single time is overrated and all their songs are very similar.
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Posted By: AoSpades
Date Posted: 15 October 2008 at 11:52pm
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i agree, the are overratedly similar and similarly overrated. -------------  |
Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 1:48am
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i like them but to me every song sounds the same.
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Posted By: TheDude
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 4:27am
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Booooooooooo.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 7:19am
This is perhaps the hardest I've seen you fail in a while, way to raise the bar. I will give you that there are certain similar sounds to most of their songs, but not nearly as bad as some of the crap that's of the more 'modern' genres. Geez, half the time I don't know who the heck I'm listening to, it all sounds exactly the same. ....I haven't heard Black Ice yet, I just hope their comeback album isn't as 'epic' as St. Anger was for Metallica.  ------------- ? |
Posted By: Zata
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 8:39am
| Yeah they're coming to town in November. I really should probably get tickets cause I doubt they'll do many more tours. |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 10:53am
You shouldn't have that problem with the new AC/DC album. They never change their sound...this will sound just like Back in Black! |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 10:55am
That won't hurt my feelings any. But I'll admit, I actually threw out the St. Anger CD I got. I got halfway through it, then walked it out to the dumpster and got rid of it. ------------- ? |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 11:06am
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Sound the same? They're the same band, of course they'll generally sound the same. And I like how they sound, so that's a good thing for me.
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 11:06am
I think that's what I was trying to say, but you did it better than I did. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 11:08am
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Given that Back in Black is one of the greatest rock albums of all time, sounding like that wouldn't be a bad thing. Yes, a lot of songs from AC/DC sound very similar - but when that sound is awesome, I approve. ------------- [IMG]http://i38.tinypic.com/aag8s8.jpg"> |
Posted By: ThatGuitarGuy
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 3:54pm
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January 31st in Nashville. Bought my tickets last night. Review on the album? I'm not really looking forward to going to Wal-mart to pick one up. ------------- Skillet: I've never been terribly fond of the look of a vagina |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 4:09pm
------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 4:51pm
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Posted By: Ceesman762
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 4:56pm
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U2. very over rated. ------------- Innocence proves nothing FUAC!!!!! |
Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 16 October 2008 at 5:21pm
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Ive got tickets to see them when they come to columbus. ive also got tickets to see metallica, but the seats are horrible. ------------- 
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 6:01pm
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I bumped this because I just saw this, maybe some of you already have. AC/DC released a video for the new single, Rock N Roll Train, in an unlikely format: Excel. Check it out.
http://www.acdcrocks.com/excel - Link to AC/DC site http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9_YkXHCkgA - Or to teh y0utube if you don't have excel |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 6:41pm
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Posted By: Zata
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:30pm
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The excel thing was kinda neat/different. But come on, its ACDC, do they even need a video? Anyways, I've been listening to the cd more and more, its starting to grow on me. I like the song 'Money Made'. |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 30 October 2008 at 7:51pm
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Brilliant. Just brilliant. THAT is why these guys are awesome. They truly understand their demographic (or at least their marketing people do). ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 2:09am
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AC/DC is one of those bands that I enjoy, but never plan to own an album of or make an effort to. It's enjoyable to hear them on the radio and I haven't heard anything that I didn't enjoy, but on the same token I didn't hear anything that made me want to absolutely fall in love with the band like so many people have today. I wonder to myself sometimes if the people I know that say they "love" AC/DC actually love the music or love the fad that if they "love" the band people will think they are cool because it's "in" to like what was cool in the 70's and 80's. ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: TheDude
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 12:46pm
You've already stepped on a nail, it isn't that big of a deal to you. Don't be a jerk about this. I'd rather step on something sharp and pointy than listen to ACDC, too. But I was thinking a tac or something. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata <keep the sigs friendly, please> |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 1:17pm
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Or maybe we are just old. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: jordanpischke
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 1:49pm
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I like acdc and will probably get the album, but I am already gonna be sick of most of the cd by the time it comes out. I hate it when radio stations play nothing but the new singles nonstop. Like the first day when rock and roll train was ever played on the radio I was driving to school on my way to football and I hear exclusively on this radio station we hhave it ACDC's new single. We will be playing it every half hour. After the song finishes I switch to another station and oh wow guess whats playing. I swear for about 2 weeks straight I heard that song at least 3 times a day. So I have concluded that radio stations shouldn't be allowed to ruin songs. THey should just play them in moderation. Maybe bands just shouldn't release any songs off their new album until it comes out. Then peole wont be sick of their songs before the cd even comes out. ------------- 
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Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 3:40pm
Who will want to buy the CD if they aren't familiar with any of the songs? Besides, the bands make good money from radio play, often more than they make on record sales. |
Posted By: gh0st
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 4:24pm
COOOOOOOOOL  -------------  |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 4:43pm
Fixed. 
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Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 9:46pm
I try not to think of the negative. Not to mention, hair-club for men says I'm not that old! ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: ThatGuitarGuy
Date Posted: 31 October 2008 at 10:46pm
Bands make about 10% of suggested retail price per album sold, so they average about a dollar per album sold, which most of that goes back to the record company to pay their expenses. They have to sell about a million albums (on average) before the band itself even starts making money. Assuming the band didn't write their own material, if they did, they get a lesser cut, the record companies say it's because they're also getting song-writing royalties, which is funny, because publishing companies give them a smaller cut when they record their own music, and say it's because they're making money off record sales as well. I forget how much it is bands make off radio plays, but it's not much, and it all depends on market size and what times it's played. Mostly all based on assumption. I'd go into greater detail, but I can't remember all the rules off the top of my head, and I think my music industry/music law books are at the office. ------------- Skillet: I've never been terribly fond of the look of a vagina |
Posted By: Zata
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 12:32am
I wonder that too. I find that with games like Guitar Hero, a lot of younger people are getting into older music. Go back 10 years ago and ask my friends if they know 'Free Bird'. They'd probably say no. Ask them today; "OMG Freeeeeeebird is so sweet, I love that song". My dad had a big influence on me when it comes to music. I grew up on the old stuff. |
Posted By: TheDude
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 1:24pm
Yeah, cause there's nothing cooler than two guys on stage that should be dead from drug abuse by now attempting to relive their prime years through their most embarrassing album release ever. Seriously? They released it on a saturday, at walmart, for nearly 9 bucks. As far as I'm concerned you lose your "artist" status when you hit that point. It's just sad. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata <keep the sigs friendly, please> |
Posted By: Shub
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 1:30pm
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The Walmart deal was quite a good deal for them.
AC/DC's last CD, "Stiff Upper Lip" was released in 2000. In the first week, it sold 131,000 copies, and has shipped 900,000 currently. Week 1 sales for "Black Ice" have destroyed those records (780,000 copies sold), and will probably soon beat the total sales for the last album. In the future, I think you'll see more and more bands using alternative forms of music distribution, as they are fed up with record labels. |
Posted By: gh0st
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 2:39pm
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You all are horrible at sarcasm.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 2:57pm
fixed ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: Zata
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 3:41pm
| I don't get why you're all ripping them. What band hasn't gone through the druggie years? What band hasn't gotten old? These guys are old enough to be our grandparents. I can't see my grandparents putting on a show like these guys do. Give em some credit. |
Posted By: ThatGuitarGuy
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 4:25pm
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Jimi Hendrix didn't get old. Unless you count 27 as old. Nirvana didn't get old, they just got overplayed. ------------- Skillet: I've never been terribly fond of the look of a vagina |
Posted By: TheDude
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 6:23pm
Yeah, that's my point exactly, thanks for that. If any of their songs sounded at least a little different maybe they wouldn't suck. And that's a really big maybe. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata <keep the sigs friendly, please> |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 8:20pm
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lol @ saying one of the most popular bands of all time 'sucks' ------------- ? |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 8:23pm
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Just remember: "I don't like them" != "They SUXORZ!!1!"
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 9:33pm
Popularity doesnt make talent. ACDC sucks. -------------
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Posted By: TheDude
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 11:37pm
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Couldn't have said it better myself, Skillet.
------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata <keep the sigs friendly, please> |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 November 2008 at 11:41pm
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Talent according to you. This is a big part. You can't tell me that the millions of fans this band has had world wide since their beginning like them only because they were a fad and it was the "cool" thing to do. They're popular for a reason. And Angus Young can play the guitar better than you.  ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Mehs
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 12:06am
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Saying a band sucks usually is a very stupid statement. Try creating music yourself, I guarantee most of you will suck at creating something that lots of people will like (taking away the fact that lots of people will enjoy a band because everyone else does like a flock of sheep/insane marketing etc...).
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 7:53am
More lulz. go flush your headgear. ------------- ? |
Posted By: little devil
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 8:15am
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I got tickets, im stoked. Amazing drinking songs, thats why I like em. |
Posted By: gh0st
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 10:15am
So then by your logic, Britney Spears is extremely talented. ------------- |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 10:23am
The longevity of popularity has to account for something. If you don't believe so, then perhaps you ought to find a nice quiet room to spend the rest of your life in where you get to be surrounded by soft toys and brightly colored bits of string. ------------- ? |
Posted By: Zata
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 10:24am
I don't like her, but thats not to say she SUCKS at singing. Although didn't she play at one of the half time shows with Aerosmith? I didn't agree with that. |
Posted By: TheDude
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 12:19pm
I'm a musician, I play shows frequently in my college town, and I have enough fans to the point where people know my name. I create music, and I know for a fact all ACDC does is throw 3 or 4 power chords together, put a sick solo in, and call it good. Then people just eat it up. I get why people like them. All I'm saying is they really aren't that good of musicians. Yeah, Angus Young is good...but he's a good guitarist. I don't think any of them are good musicians. ------------- "According to Sue Johanson, theres nothing that can increase your manhood, trust me I've already looked into it for myself." -Zata <keep the sigs friendly, please> |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 12:58pm
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Okay. College band guy with fans who know is name says ACDC are bad musicians. I think I'll change my opinion based on this expert testimony. ------------- ? |
Posted By: ThatGuitarGuy
Date Posted: 02 November 2008 at 2:07pm
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AC/DC are good entertainers, regardless of musical talent. They write good songs using limited song-writing skills. (I'm not saying they don't have the skills, but if a simple song sounds good and sells well, why make it a complex song? It's worked for 3 Doors Down as well) They've been around, what? 30 years now? They're still touring, still getting well played on the radio (some would argue overplayed), and they're still selling albums. Apparently they're doing something right. As for the college musician bashing a band for putting 3 or 4 power chords together, I would really like to hear some of his influences, as he just bashed probably 90% of popular rock out there now. 3 or 4 power chords doesn't make a good song, no, but it does make a radio friendly song. ------------- Skillet: I've never been terribly fond of the look of a vagina |