Amped up rental markers
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Topic: Amped up rental markers
Posted By: sirtinny
Subject: Amped up rental markers
Date Posted: 30 November 2008 at 8:46pm
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G'day from Australia. I am in the process of starting a field in OZ and am going with the 98 Custom ACT as my default marker. TI plan to have a few "premium" rentals. Keep in mind that in OZ it is an offense to make a marker look like an actual gun. I am thinking : - 16" barrel Cyclone feed system Response Trigger Expansion chamber Maybe laser sight What are peoples thoughts on this idea? I am not sure whether the 16" barrel is a good move as well as cyclone feed and response trigger. Any advice is welcome. sirtinny |
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Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 30 November 2008 at 11:54pm
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I like the idea of the cyclone but the 16" may be unnecessary. You will get the same performance from a barrel between 8 and 16" but at the 16" point you start to get a little extra drag that can hinder the perofmance. I would go with soething like a 12" J&J barrel. They are inexpensive compared to many barrels but give amazing performance. As for the RT that is up to you. I am not a fan of the RT b/c of problems I have seen with friend's guns but if you take the time to tune them propely they will put down ropes of paint. The expansion chamber isnt a bad idea if you do use the RT just because it will give the CO2 that extra time to expand and give better performance without the gun freezing up as quickly (I mean getting really cold not stopping) . As for the Laser sight they are unnecesary. If you do put a red dot on there it may make people think it looks cooler but unless they are properly dialed in they wont do anything. If you meant a sight that actually puts down a laser on the target I highly recomend NOT doing it. Could be a lawsuit waiting to happen if someone gets on in the eye. All in all the 98 is a great platform gun to rent out. They are tanks so you should be good. edit* Spell Check ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/"> 
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 01 December 2008 at 9:34am
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Most fields around here seem to run most of their rental markers on HPA instead of CO2. I assume it is considerably cheaper in the long run? If you choose this route the expansion chambers would be pointless. As for firing upgrades, the RT is obviously cheaper, but more of a pain to dial in. I would suspect you or your stack may end up spending a lot of time fiddling with these to get them set up properly. Than again, if you are only offering as a premium package, you probably wouldnt have a lot to look after. Obviously, keep in mind that the more you have on the marker, the more chance there is for something to break and costs to be incurred. Bone stock 98's can basically be submerged in mud, pulled out, squeegeed and you are good to go whereas adding upgrades adds more things to go wrong. Keep in mind too, that most renters are new players and may or may not know how to take care of the equipment or simply may not care. I have seen some pretty beatup rentals. ------------- "When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter. |
Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 01 December 2008 at 6:25pm
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I would stay away from the RT just because of the danger of it failing and costing you money like oldpbnoob pointed out. Now new comers to the sport won't know much about paintball markers so they won't be able to see the obvious advantage to having a RT so they probably won't care whats in the marker, but they would care more for whats on it. What I would imagine is that a 12 or 14 inch barrel of some sort is a given, to insure better accuracy and then maybe a cyclone(emphasis on maybe) or just a cheap electro hopper like a VL or something. The customers might also view the laser sight as a advantage and be more willing to pay the extra to have the premium. I think you need to pack as much of the cheaper, yet higher functioning aesthetics as you can. I would stay away from using the RT, the expansion chamber, and the even the cyclone maybe just because of the cost to outfit your markers with these things. You never know how long it will be to pay off these things and you might want to start slow and see how much success and demand there is for the premium package and then maybe go from there to add a cyclone or the RT. hope that helps! ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: sirtinny
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 8:32pm
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Thanks for the thoughts everyone. Some great advice there. I have had a look at the J&J website and think they may be a good option. I think I will keep clear of sights and response triggers as well as the expansion chamber. I will think about a few other ideas. I like the thought of using compressed air. It will increase my setup time considerable though so will need to see what room I have in the budget. Cheers, sirtinny |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 8:59pm
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A friend of mine ran a paintball business for a while. He supplied compressed air at 4500 psi but because of initial tank costs and rehydroing fees used 20 oz CO2 on most of his rentals (Tippmann 98s). You should check out what the latest ruling for having to hydrotest 20 oz tanks is; I believe they no longer need to be tested but I could be wrong. With that in mind they would be essentially a one-time investment that would save money over HPA tanks in the long run. (HPA tanks costing both more initially and having to be tested every 5 years.) For most woodsball players, a 20 oz tank is more than sufficient for a day of play. Additionally, if you are playing in a warm climate, CO2 performance should be adequate for the rental markers.
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Posted By: sirtinny
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 11:02pm
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Thanks Mack, At the fields I have worked at in the past CO2 was the standard. I just got a quote through with about a 20c difference in the G size cylinder which fills approx 20-25 20Oz cylinders by memory. Might keep it simple for the moment and stick to CO2. Cheers, sirtinny |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 03 December 2008 at 11:23pm
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I made a misstatement above. I should have said that I believe 20 oz chrome-moly tanks do not have to be retested. I think the aluminum ones just expire.* *Actually I think they can be retested, but it is cheaper to buy new ones. -------------
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Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 04 December 2008 at 12:24am
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this is correct... i was gonna post that but you corrected yourself before I could ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/">
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Mack wrote:
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 04 December 2008 at 12:40pm
I did that just to bug you.  -------------
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Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 1:16am
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lol actually i was looking at gettin a 9 oz chromoly or a 12 oz for my procarbine just for some lightweight fun ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/">
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 2:19am
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Go with the 12. The 9s are a little too short to be comfortable as a stock and the 12s are less likely to blow a burst disk in warm weather.
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Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 10:44am
| Local fields here provide A-5's with RT's, which all perform pretty decently. I also know of a field that has Ion rentals, but I'd rather stick with the A-5 for ease of cleaning and maintenance. |