mbro wrote: Bored or not, why would you ever upload a video of you showing off the sound your ATV's exhaust makes? Who would ever want to watch that? What the hell are you thinking when you make these movies? Listening to the noise a machine makes is not entertaining to anyone unless it.s a sound ray gun that blasts the close off of women. This is not one of those3 guns. Therefore, do not make these absolutely retarded, red neck videos.

Based of the silly grammar and spelling mistakes that mbro is not known for, I'd say he's not all that bored right now. ;)

high voltage recieves a -1 for that link haha

and ford recieves a -500 for the number of ultra random somehow related to engines or guns threads.

excellent grammar i know

Tical3.0 wrote: Ford wrote: I didn't buy that exhaust. But I would have gotten something loud, which mine is. That is not loud dude. This Mixed in with a little bit of that Is Loud. What you have is child's play

Giant who cares......

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So, Ford - what are you going to do in 20 years when we are all driving silent electric cars...?

Are you being sarcastic?

ford: thats like the kid in my class who has a civic. he thinks sliding on ice is drifing. all i could do was satnd and laugh.

Tical3.0 wrote: Are you being sarcastic?

Not at all.

And drifting FWD cars is certainly not difficult in the snow.  Even on asphalt you just need a little flicking skill.

But in the snow you gotta go backwards donut.

ya, i just put new tires on my car. blew out the right front last night on the way home.

Ford, you are having a hard time with fwd cars because you are "drifting" by using drive-wheel torque.  Stomping on the gas isn't drifting, that's just smoking tires. 

When turning at the limit, which wheels will come loose first is determined mostly by front/rear bias, not front vs. rear drive wheels. This can be tweaked by throttle control and wheel flick, but car design is at the center of it.

Similarly, if you are having a hard time drifting awd vehicles it is because you are using the pedal-mash method - that gives you the out of control 4-wheel slide you describe.  With careful vehicle control, awd cars will drift just fine.

scotchyscotch wrote: google wrote: BlahblahblahBlahBlahBlahBlah

So, now being fully awake, I am thinking that the implication here was I my post was mere regooglitation.  If so, I am vaguely offended.  If I was just passing on something I found on the internet, I would simply link the site, which would no doubt be a more authoritative source than my amateur opinion.

agentwhale007 wrote: Drifting just seems like very elegant tire-ruining.

Snow/ice.  Some day you will see some, and you will understand.

:P

I must admit I have not put a lot of thought into specific definitions of "drift," but I am always up for some semantic geekery.

I always distinguished drifting from powersliding by getting the non-drive wheels to slide.  Fishtailing a rwd vehicle is a powerslide, not a drift, unless your front wheels are also sliding.  Kicking out the rear in a fwd vehicle is drifting, regardless of what the front is doing.  awd vehicles kind of mess with the this definition, but whatever.  I guess you need a 4-wheel slide to "drift" a awd car.

In any event - "drifting" in its modern use was pretty much popularized by a bunch of guys in fwd cars, so it seems odd to say that you can't drift fwd cars.  And starting a rear wheel slide before the apex  in a fwd car isn't that difficult either.  Scandinavian flick will do that immediately, and in the right car even a lift might do it if you are at the limit.

But, like I said - strictly semantic geekery.