A Modern Parable-FWD
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Topic: A Modern Parable-FWD
Posted By: oldsoldier
Subject: A Modern Parable-FWD
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 1:40pm
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A MODERN PARABLE . .
A Japanese company ( Toyota ) and an American company (Ford) decided to have a canoe race on the Missouri River. Both teams practiced long and hard to reach their peak performance before the race. On the big day, the Japanese won by a mile. The Americans , very discouraged and depressed, decided to investigate the reason for the crushing defeat. A management team made up of senior management was formed to investigate and recommend appropriate action. Their conclusion was the Japanese had 8 people rowing and 1 person steering, while the American team had 8 people steering and 1 person rowing. Feeling a deeper study was in order, American management hired a consulting company and paid them a large amount of money for a second opinion. They advised, of course, that too many people were steering the boat, while not enough people were rowing. Not sure of how to utilize that information, but wanting to prevent another loss to the Japanese, the rowing team's management structure was totally reorganized to 4 steering supervisors, 3 area steering superintendents, and 1 assistant superintendent steering manager. "They also implemented a new performance system that would give the 1 person rowing the boat greater incentive to work harder. It was called the 'Rowing Team Quality First Program,' with meetings, dinners, and free pens for the rower . There was discussion of getting new paddles, canoes, and other equipment, extra vacation days for practices and bonuses. The next year the Japanese won by two miles. Humiliated, the American management laid off the rower for poor performance, halted developmen t of a new canoe, sold the paddles, and canceled all capital investments for new equipment. The money saved was distributed to the Senior Executives as bonuses and the next year's racing team was out-sourced to India. Sadly, The End. Here's something else to think about: Ford has spent the last thirty years moving all its factories out of the US, claiming they can't make money paying American wages. TOYOTA has spent the last thirty years building more than a dozen plants inside theUS. The last quarter's results: TOYOTA makes 4 billion in profits while Ford racked up 9 billion in losses. Ford folks are still scratching their heads. IF THIS WEREN'T TRUE, IT MIGHT BE FUNNY. ; |
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 1:43pm
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LOL
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Posted By: ThatGuitarGuy
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 1:44pm
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Ford allowed Unions. Hard to make a profit when the Union wages are so high. Sad truth. ------------- Skillet: I've never been terribly fond of the look of a vagina |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 1:46pm
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That was the dumbest thing I have ever read by you, or anyone else on this forum.
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Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 1:57pm
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FWD:FWD:FWD
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Posted By: unvolution
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 2:11pm
| i liked it |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 2:13pm
| I see where it was trying to go...but it tried too hard and missed its mark |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 2:23pm
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That's kind of where I come down. It had potential, but couldn't follow through. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
choopie911 wrote:Posted By: Snipa69
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 2:31pm
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Regardless of format and structure, I think the message is clear and quite funny. It's why I don't buy Fords, mostly because they are horribly put together. I don't care what consumer reports has to say about them, they will never reach the same level of quality as Toyota/Lexus/Scion ------------- http://imageshack.us - [IMG - http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/857/sig9ac6cs1mj.jpg - |
Posted By: PaiNTbALLfReNzY
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 2:31pm
LOL |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 4:21pm
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The reason toyota can afford to make money on cars in north america is simple they are not union while ford is. Ford CANT just say nope we aint gona be union any more as that is against the law. So Ford is slowly moving all its factories out of north america to avoid the union. Toyota has avoided the union simply by paying almost as much as ford with similare benifits as the union guys but with toyota you aint gotta pay union dues. Sadly the Auto Workers Union is the sole reason for the slow demise of the big three. I myself think unions are a BAD idea and are no longer needed. Back in my gradfathers time they provided a employees rights but now we have laws and such to prevent these problems now so unions really are usless money whores. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: BearClaw
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 4:56pm
AND that my friend is BS. I have owned all kinda of vehicals from 2 dodge's, 4 ford's, 2 VW's, 1 Yamaha's, 1 Suzuki. Im also a Diesel truck mehcanic for a living and over the last 6-7 years have also done work on the side on others cars. And trust me i have seen just as many Toyotas needing all kinda of work as any other brand. I also worked part time for a small auto shop and we fixed damn near everything from toyotas nissans and hondas to motorcycles did not matter. Had a coworker who had a 1992 Honda Civic hatch back. His car had 300,000kms on it. He was ALWAYS bringing into the shop to fix and offten need my help (he was not a mechanic just a lube tech). We did everything from cv shafts to front susupenshion a-arms to replaceing the entire Wiper assembly cause it fell apart  . Body was all rotted out and its days were numbered (shock towers were rotting through). He was a die hard improt guy and had no time for anything else regardless of me telling him that if taken care of most vehicals can see 300,000kms without too much drama. I was scoofed at many times befor i decided to Roll my 1977 Dodge Tradsmann 200 into work with 325,000kms on it with its original engein trans and even front end. It was owned since new by my grandfather and all work was done at his home by himself. It had a few repairs over the years from upgrading to a bigger carb and getting shorty headers and glass packs to replacing worn out parts but it ran every day and lived a HARD life as both my grand fathers daily driver and his tow rig. I also had a 1986 VW Golf Diesel with 350,000kms on the clock and it was all original with the exception of an alt, two exhuast systems and two cv shafts and a few set of brakes. Then their was my 1996 Ford Ranger 4x4 with 285,000kms on the clock with nothing but a few sensors (O2, IAC) brakes, Rear leaf springs, and a bucnch of front drive axle u-joints (broken due to severe off-roading). In fact almost all my vehicals have been very reliable with the exception of two. a 1994 F250 Diesel that i modified WAY WAY past its factory specs and suffered many brakedowns due to the exsessive power and my last car a 2004 VW jetta TDI wich almost matched the F250 for brakedowns but it had not even half the milage and was bone stock. ------------- AGD 68 Automag Azodin KPII Sheridan PGP2K Tippmann Crossover XVR Tippmann ProCarbine Tippmann SL68-II Tippmann TiPX |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 5:46pm
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Unions had a purpose in the 20's thru 40's in order to finally secure workers rights and benifits from the corperations. Today unions are basically borderline criminal organizations collecting dues from the worker and holding hostage the corperations. Anyone here actually believe that the Teamsters have no ties to a certian criminal organization?
Having delievered parts to GM and FORD in Detroit and Subaru in Indiana there is a very distinct difference in worker attitude. From the attitude of the recieving dock workers, and then watching the assembly line at all three, Subaru workers had a tad bit more concern on product quality, and speed. I went to Freightliner once to possibly buy a truck, I looked at a FLD XL Classic, having driven one for Werner and on my walkaround with the salesman I noticed that a frame cross member was missing on the one I was looking at. I looked at the same model sitting next to the one I was looking at and there was a frame member there, as well as others. The sticker on the door had a Portland OR assembly code and a UAW sticker. So all through this assembly process no-one noticed that the frame member was missing? Thats why at the time I bought a Volvo 770,with a Canadian made CAT engine. My model on a corperation finally figuring out it had a problem is when the riders and a few backers bought back Harley-Davidson from AMF, and the success rate of the product, profit and company after that is lengendary. |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 5:52pm
| I still say BearClaw works at a freak garage that defies the laws of car reliability, etc. |
Posted By: blackdog144
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 5:58pm
ya but the union is what saved Ford...thats why henry ford gave into the union. either way, ill stay a Ford guy until the end...at least their not doing as bad as GM. ------------- http://imageshack.us">  
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 6:01pm
Thats a pretty stupid reason to stick with something. "Well I know bathing in vinegar sucks, but its not as bad as urine!" |
Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 6:07pm
Toyota plant near my house is unionized. ------------- <just say no to unnecessarily sexualized sigs> |
Posted By: notom66866
Date Posted: 05 December 2008 at 6:54pm
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Way to throw in a useless comment Carl.
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