my pre2k cocker! update
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Topic: my pre2k cocker! update
Posted By: t_hop
Subject: my pre2k cocker! update
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 5:35pm
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Hey I'm pretty sure this is a 1999 but I got with the
Okay for the update, I just took off the front block and put on my pump kit.
first impressions: I'm glad I put the pump on it. I love the feel and pump action sound of it cocking and firing. I'm too low on air to really see how it shoots, but I'm confident it will be awesome. ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 6:02pm
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Your first cocker? Welcome to the club! I think you should follow through with the pump plans. Nothing beats it.
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 6:21pm
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i love my '99 with a ccm kit. the only diffrence is the barrel, bolt, grips,and reg. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 05 January 2009 at 7:22pm
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Cock it before you air it up. your IVG is in too far. Also make sure your lug is in just far enough.
------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97 
'99 Snpr II, ½d Karni, E-Orracle, 2k4 Spstk, 2k5 Prstk, PMR SE, A5, 98 |
Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 6:27pm
i do, but as soon as i fire it doesn't recock and air pours out from the barrel. What is my IVG and lug? and yes it's my first cocker 
i was thinking about getting a WWA pump kit any opinions on it or others? ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
ctchofday wrote:Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 6:33pm
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Find a timing manual and follow it. Also that doesn't look pre2k to me, but I am probably wrong. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 6:40pm
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eh, from what iv been told the WWA kit has a short arm on it. the CCM kit had a long enough rod and was set up so you dident have to re-time it. ya, thats a pre 2k, the front/back block would be rounded it it was 2k+. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 06 January 2009 at 6:48pm
theres a few different things that could be the problem. turn up the pressure a little on the front LPR, on your reg that is clockwise on the rock nob IVG= internal velocity gauge? i forgot... its the the brass/nickel thing you seen when you look into the lower tube with an allen key hole in it that you adjust the velocity with, back it should only be no more than halfway in (half way is when you can see it through the bevertail screw hole) lug... the thing that sticks out from the Hammer/Striker to catch the trigger sear. it should only be in just enough to catch the sear. there should be a hole in the top of your body, a little one just behind the feedneck, i forgot the size but whichever allen key fits perfectly in the hole is the right size, make sure the hammer is released, fiddle with it till you feel the allen key drop into the lug. back it out till it doesnt catch, and begin turning it in little by little till it finally does, and then give it just one more tiny turn to make sure it DOES catch the sear. adjust the timing collar (cylinder on the rod going from the trigger to the 3 way) by loosening the lock screws on it and turning it either towards the 3way or toawrds the trigger to make sure its in enough to where it doesnt leak, and it should activate the 3way just a bit after the Hammer is released. too close to the trigger and nothing will happen but a bunch of leaking or literally nothing at all, to far towards the 3way and it will activate too early or will keep the bolt held back. ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
'99 Snpr II, ½d Karni, E-Orracle, 2k4 Spstk, 2k5 Prstk, PMR SE, A5, 98 |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 07 January 2009 at 1:27pm
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nice find, welcome to the club. here is a video on timing the cocker, if you need it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4TV9o6YdnM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4TV9o6YdnM ------------- 
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Posted By: Styro Folme
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 3:03am
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I used to have a flash game bookmarked that was extremely helpful on showing you how to time an autococker. I got the link from detrevni. Maybe he still has it floating around somewhere. Nice cocker, btw. ------------- X |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 4:20am
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Ah, I remember that! That Flash helped me out back in the day as well. Unfortunately, I don't have it anymore.
------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 08 January 2009 at 11:59pm
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thanks for the help, and ctch as soon as i understood
what you were saying it got it to work correctly. I took a video but I can't figure how to upload it. Basically it cycles fine but every five or so the back block gets stuck and doesn't fire. After I pump the trigger again though it will release and fire, any idea what I need to adjust? It's either the lug or the timing collar. also what's best for lubing the bolt? And I found a few places that say I should drop some oil into the asa, should I? ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: stick_boy_2002
Date Posted: 09 January 2009 at 11:45am
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a few drops in the ASA, fire a couple of times and the air system is oiled up, thats really all it does. ------------- 
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Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 09 January 2009 at 11:54pm
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okay, yeah i did that for my pistols a few times.
I think i worked out the kinks, it's definitely not perfect and i still need to adjust it more to make the timing closer but I think i got the gist of maintaining it  ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 10 January 2009 at 12:03am
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its all trial and error. even i don't get it right sometimes. ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
'99 Snpr II, ½d Karni, E-Orracle, 2k4 Spstk, 2k5 Prstk, PMR SE, A5, 98 |
Posted By: merc
Date Posted: 10 January 2009 at 9:17am
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ha i wrote up a timing guide for technical writing last semester and was going to host it on my friends site but i was to lazy... il get it up shortly and post it. ------------- saving the world, one warship at a time. |
Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 10:56am
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do i just have it unadjusted or tuned wrong because this
thing will hiss air out of the three way, it's like sometimes for an unknown reason to me it won't want to fully cycle and air leaks out the three way. Is there something wrong with it? How do i fix this? ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 11 January 2009 at 11:54am
you most likely have it adjusted too far in or out. but the rod on the inside is made only of brass and they bend very easily. It could be slightly bent. ------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
'99 Snpr II, ½d Karni, E-Orracle, 2k4 Spstk, 2k5 Prstk, PMR SE, A5, 98 |
Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 5:16pm
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could i just send it to somebody and have you time it
for me, it probably wouldn't take much I just can't get it right. ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 5:22pm
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shipping is gonna be a beast ~$14 insured x 2 so ~$28
------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
'99 Snpr II, ½d Karni, E-Orracle, 2k4 Spstk, 2k5 Prstk, PMR SE, A5, 98 |
Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 12 January 2009 at 8:52pm
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aight i'm not gonna worry about it, and i'll just make
it a pump and do a few other things with it. Thanks for helping guys ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: Lightningbolt
Date Posted: 14 January 2009 at 8:31pm
| that gun looks clean. nice |
Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 2:03pm
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thanks man, i just put a pump kit on it and I think it's much cleaner now even. ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: ctchofday
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 4:39pm
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Nicely done. You will LOVE it once you get some air for it, i promise.
------------- Xbl:PhantomReign97
'99 Snpr II, ½d Karni, E-Orracle, 2k4 Spstk, 2k5 Prstk, PMR SE, A5, 98 |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 8:38pm
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nice, is that the WWA pump kit?? ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 8:44pm
I liek it. You're about to experience paintball in a whole new way. Looks more like a basic Vendetta pump kit than WWA. Not sure though. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 8:48pm
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It is a vendetta, I wanted to get the WWA but I picked this up for 22 shipped so I couldn't make myself spend the extra 30 to get the WWA. I'm not going to lie, I'm very excited to see this surprise all the little punks acting big a bad with their mommy money electros.  ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |