automags
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Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
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Topic: automags
Posted By: Sangreti
Subject: automags
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 5:52pm
i have one comeing in a trade and i was wondering what every body thinks of them
update here it is it should arrive soon
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Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 6:58pm
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Very solid, extremely reliable markers. They were right on top with Autocockers back when mech's ruled the tournies.
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 7:04pm
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pneu mags can still take that kid with tha angel ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: Yomillio
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 7:12pm
Ehh, they're up there, but they can't quite pull the rates of fire electronic guns can. They're really right there though. I've always wanted a pneu-mag. -------------
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Sangreti wrote:Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 18 January 2009 at 7:14pm
im makeing one if you want to fly out to nevada and toy around with it ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 1:10am
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they are awesome guns. I have been looking at one for a while but never found a good price for me. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/"> 
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 3:23pm
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i can find uone for around 140 ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: Commander_Cool
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 3:32pm
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Wouldn't it have made more sense to ask this question... before you bought the Automag? ------------- 2005 Freestyle Naughty Dawg Freestyle Angel LCD SP-8 Tippmann 98 Custom |
Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 3:59pm
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its my 3rd mag so no ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 5:32pm
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They are good solid guns. Still upgradeable. Very quiet for a nearly 20 year old design. I have one that I installed a Level 10 bold upgrade, plus had the main body modded and powdercoated. Looks great. Can't wait to take it on the field this season. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 6:07pm
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yep my new one is all original with new anno yes original level 5 bolt!!! ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 7:12pm
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Level 5 or Level 7? Level 5's are worth quite a bit of money these days. And if it's all original, the body is probably SS, and can't be anodized. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 7:43pm
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sorry mistake yes level 5 bolt the accents are annoed right power feed ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 9:49pm
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Hm. I'm curious. I want to see pics!!!1! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 19 January 2009 at 10:40pm
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shure it should arrive soon ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:13am
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when i say i cant find one in my price range i am talking a tacone (body doesnt matter if its reg, warp left, or wrap right) with a lvl 10 and ULE ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/">
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:36am
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a level 10 is 600-1200 bud much cheaper if you want me to make you one 125 for a tac body and 100 for a doner gun ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: slasherdan
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 11:18am
Rate of Fire???
Who needs Rate of Fire??
I'm willing to put money down that the guy with the Phantom will take out the kid with the Angel.
But the Mag is great. I have three myself. ------------- Hauptmann Kurt "SlasherDan" Benson 6th Fallschirmjager-Regiment, Pionere.Kompanie.1 |
Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 12:43pm
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i know but their very quick i might pump one of mine ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:02pm
And Sangreti, I was wondering what you meant by "accents!" The old Planet Eclipse splash kits! I've always thought they looked good. Very nice, but not quite "all original."
 And $600-$1,200 for a Lv. 10? I sure do hope you mean a brand new E-Tac-One... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:07pm
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i did meen a new e tac and ya thir not orignal but the level 5 bolt is and thats up for trade ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:10pm
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Don't get me wrong, I still think it's very nice! I want to build up a 'Mag one of these days, but I'm broke. :( ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:14pm
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well you get about 225 and ill make you one with a ule body if the valve is broken ill fix it
and i dont charge for labor i accally enjoy makeing them ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:24pm
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Then can you explain why the velocity screw in my X-Valve is stuck? And how I un-stick it? I'd rather not take the valve apart, since I got it working pretty nicely... ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:27pm
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Bruce, as a marker enthusiast, I demand pics of your Mag. And your X-Valve could be stripped. That'd be bad... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:27pm
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not without seeing a pic but roughly id say someting got stuck in it takes me about 2 and 1/2 hours to rebuild them ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 9:45pm
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I have a pic laying around here someplace, but only assembled. I'd rather not take the valve apart...
The symptom is straight-forward. Insert allen wrench, try to turn, but can't. Try harder, still can't. Stop trying for fear of breaking something.
It had sat for a while when this occurred, and was working fine the last time I shot it. Which is why I just think it needs oil, but I'm not sure how to get oil to the velocity screw. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:25pm
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sounds stripped
spose it could be tapped
then put one of these in
http://www.amazon.com/Paintball-Degrees-Automag-Thumb-Velocity/dp/B000GU8BHI/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1232509229&sr=1-21 - http://www.amazon.com/Paintball-Degrees-Automag-Thumb-Velocity/dp/B000GU8BHI/ref=sr_1_21?ie=UTF8&s=sporting-goods&qid=1232509229&sr=1-21 ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: slasherdan
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 10:06pm
And. You. Know. This. How??
How many rounds a second are you going to miss me before you get the point.
You clearly suffer from a Speedballer mentality. ------------- Hauptmann Kurt "SlasherDan" Benson 6th Fallschirmjager-Regiment, Pionere.Kompanie.1 |
Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 10:14pm
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tisk tisk i suffer from love of my crossman 3357 . 50 cal revolver style 6 round clip paint gun ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: StormyKnight
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 11:11pm
Simple logic really. All things being equal other than the markers, the semi-user will pin down the pump-user until he eliminates him. I've seen it first hand when the first semis hit the fields where I was playing. Heck, even some of the seasoned pump-players were being taken out by the less skilled semi-users. It has nothing to do with a speedball mentality. In the 20 years I've been playing, I can count on one hand how many times I've played speedball. He that throws the most paint normally wins. -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 2:55am
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man, I seriously laughed when I read that. Oh my god, you don't know me, do you? I've been playing pump paintball for years! I just spent $1,110 on a custom Redux! That's stock class, 12g's and 10 rounds, thank you. I've had Sheridan KP's, PMI-II's, PGP's, SL-68's, pump Rainmakers, Snipers, the works, my friend. I've built many guns from the ground up, and have many in the works. I've been playing paintball since I was 10. I play rec ball and scenario/big game (NOT mil-sim, ugh) exclusively. Who are you to judge me?
But to be honest, it's the little "Speedballer mentality" comment at the end that gets me. It's truely laughable! You clearly suffer from a Pump Elitist mentality. Assuming you and I are equal in skill, if I have an Angel, and you have a Phantom, I have the major advantage. Just because you have a pump does NOT make you a better player! I wish more people would realize this. It's like saying a 'cocker shoot's farther because it's a 'cocker.
And as if I need to defend myself on the intertubez any more, I play and am committed to pump not because I think it makes me a better player, but because I'm worse at pump. It offers much more of a challenge, and I thoroughly enjoy getting lit up by semi players. Almost every time I'm shot, I learn something new from it. "Oh man, I should have moved sooner!" or, "I need to learn to get closer," etc. I may be better than you, you may be better than me, but it certainly isn't because you or I shoot a pump. Remember, paintball is fun. Nothing more, nothing less. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 5:11am
im pretty shure you just owned him
 i understang entirely  because my crossmann 3357 just broke and i cant fix it im going to miss my side arm......man it was even revolver style------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 7:42am
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I play strictly pump, and no matter the sitation, I am always outgunned. [read: outgunned not outskilled]. Sometimes I am guilty of a Pump Elitist mentality as DeTrev mentioned, but in those situations I can back it up. Usually because I have 3-4 semi players on my team covering my butt and allowing me to get close and make some nice shots. Pump versus Semi is a very situational argument. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: Bruce Banner
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 10:20am
Yeah, I busted a giggle at that one too.
:)
But as stated above, DT's statement is pretty obviously true. All things being equal, more firepower = better. Thus Angel-guy has an advantage over PGP-guy, if all other things are equal. Duh.
Can pump players defeat electro players? Of course - if they have sufficient skill to overcome the handicap.
In my case, I like to play high ROF guns because I suck, but mainly because I like to unload cases of paint, and pump guns just don't make we want to laugh maniacally. ------------- Waste and excess are not conservative family values http://www.nytimes.com/ref/opinion/07opclassic.html - Nature is not a liberal plot http://pickensplan.com - A Good Energy Plan |
Posted By: slasherdan
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 4:01pm
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Removed ------------- Hauptmann Kurt "SlasherDan" Benson 6th Fallschirmjager-Regiment, Pionere.Kompanie.1 |
Posted By: slasherdan
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 4:35pm
Always happy to amuse...
Then we're pretty much talking from the same level of experience. Who am I to judge?? Did I pass a verdict?? But please read on ...
"Cocker shoot's farther because it's a cocker" ... I actually remember those days. To be honest my "Speedballer Mentality" comment wasn't meant to piss you off. If it did I appologise. I guess I was rubbed a tad when you claim my point was "Biggest. Misconception. Ever." It comes across like punk kid telling me off. Like my opion sucks the proverbial big one.
I never "attacked" you to begin with. And you shouldn't HAVE to defend yourself on what is technically a simple place to post you opions and ask questions or help someone out.
Do I think Pump is better?? No.. But I don't think Semi is better either. The player is the deciding factor. Do I think I'm the best? Nope. I just know when the other side is underestimating me and I show them that.
I prefer pump because it challenges me more than semi. When I play semi I end up finding myself playing like I'm using a pump. The end results are the same but for some stupid reason the other side is more careful when I have a semi.
They assume I'm a cake walk when I'm using a pump.
I don't know why you're bent out of shape though. My first statement was this
Was I "Bragging"?? That wasn't the intention of the post but I can understand where one might get that impression. My comment was rather innocent given most of the posts on any forums. In the end though I answered Sangreti's question on what I thought of Mags.
You on the other hand decided to make it into a lame arguement about "what's better" and "Biggest. Misconception. Ever."
I simply fired a shot back and you easily got bent out of shape.
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Posted By: slasherdan
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 4:39pm
Try posting on MCarterbrown.com
I'm not promising anything but I wouldn't be surprised if you find someone there that can either help you fix it or has the parts you're looking for. ------------- Hauptmann Kurt "SlasherDan" Benson 6th Fallschirmjager-Regiment, Pionere.Kompanie.1 |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 5:02pm
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Slasherdan, I'm not going to quote that because it's a bit long. I'll assume you know what I'm talking about. What we have here is a failure to communicate. You claimed you never attacked me. I'd like to use the phrase, "You clearly suffer from a Speedballer mentality." This drew me out to make me sound like one of the little punk kids you were complaining about in your previous post. It by definition is a personal attack, and I defended myself. If you did not mean for it to be, then you should have worded it better. And I'd also like to point out the irony of telling me I'M bent out of shape. You stated the phrase "Biggest. Misconception. Ever," made you feel like I was trampling all over your opinion. Two things wrong with this: You didn't state an opinion. "Willing to place money" implies fact. And I've heard enough of that "fact" for it to drive me crazy. It's illogical. How does putting yourself at a disadvantage give you an advantage? The second part that's just not right is taking it personally. "Misconception" implies that I've heard it many times, from many different people. I don't know why you had to take it so personally, and shortly after accuse me of getting bent out of shape. Lastly, I don't know where you got the whole bragging bit from. I never accused you of it. Edit: And this is also interesting: "You on the other hand decided to make it into a lame arguement about 'what's better' and 'Biggest. Misconception. Ever.'" YOU are the one that decided to make it into a lame argument. YOU are the one that got all hurt over my post. YOU are the one who stated falsity as fact, And YOU are the one that's accusing me of being the instigator. The irony is delicious. I'd also like to point out that I never made this a "which is better" thing. This is once again you trying to pull things out of context. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: slasherdan
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 5:48pm
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All I made was a stupid comment that was based on someone else comment about some "kid with and Angel".
You then start saying I'm full of crap when I'm actually just a Fuddy-Duddy (1).
I then made the Speed baller mentality comment and you get even more bent out of shape.
I THOUGHT I admitted that I too got a tad "**edited**y" when you initially reply to my first post. But I it was in my post that I removed and forgot to put it back in.
In all honesty though who cares what we think anyway? Everyone has their own thoughts (holes) on everything. And everyone thinks everyone elses stinks.
(1). Fuddy-duddy: A fussy, old-fashioned person. Varients include fuddie-duddie, fuddydud, and fudbucket From the book Wicked Words A Treasury of Curses, Insults, Put-Downs, and Other Formerly Unprintable Terms from Anglo-Saxon Times to the Present. ------------- Hauptmann Kurt "SlasherDan" Benson 6th Fallschirmjager-Regiment, Pionere.Kompanie.1 |
Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 6:00pm
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ok he has been tought his lesson so we can stop flameing him can we get back to automags and peoples thoughts on them? ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 6:17pm
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Fine fine fine. I guess I can understand him being a fuddy duddy. :) I just don't like being compared to an "agglett." Sorry bro. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 6:36pm
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i say keep going at it, way more entertaining than automag talk. get him detrev ------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 6:49pm
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lol ok ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 25 January 2009 at 2:16pm
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I built a nice MicroMag a few years ago, and it was an awesome gun. I still wouldn't mind building another one in the future, but right now, one gun is enough for me. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 25 January 2009 at 4:51pm
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They cost quite a bit more to build. Like, last time I checked a single Xvalve will cost around $200, with a ULE costing about $70. Or you can get a whole ULE'd Xvalved gun for maybe a little under $300.
I was mad after I got my up'd classic Mag then saw that ones with Xvalves were a little bit more. But, no one with an Xvalve wanted an Impulse. Haha ------------- 
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 25 January 2009 at 5:46pm
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Ya but you can't top the classic 68 feel ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 25 January 2009 at 10:01pm
You may have a better chance of striking up a conversation about the virtues of the Automag if you perhaps.. say... went to a site like http://www.automags.org - www.automags.org .
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 25 January 2009 at 10:25pm
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I have an acc but it won't work ------------- ~square peg~ |
Posted By: MeanMan
Date Posted: 27 January 2009 at 6:04pm
Ummmm.... huh? Xvalves are way better. -------------
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Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 28 January 2009 at 2:18am
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Faster but not better ------------- ~square peg~ |