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New for tippmann, looks sweet!

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Topic: New for tippmann, looks sweet!
Posted By: paintballplaya7
Subject: New for tippmann, looks sweet!
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 1:06am
http://www.paintball-discounters.com/get_item_030518a.htm - check it . its a new bolt for tippmanns and bt's. you think its actually all its cracked up to be? i sure hope so. would definitely love to have less kick

anybody seen, heard about, or actually used it??

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*Custom Pro
*Cyclone feed
*X7 hopper
*M16 Carry Handle
*BT 16 Apex Barrel
*Car Stock
*remote
*camo paint job
*Single point sling
*JT Full Coverage Camo
*realtree RAP4 vest



Replies:
Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 6:09am
This is a bit old bud yes they do work but it can't compare to a electropnumatic conversion or gun

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~square peg~



Posted By: Robby_of_PBH
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 10:20am
Ha, funny you mentioned it, I ordered mine a few days ago, so I'm pretty pumped for it to come in.  I'm really hoping it makes a difference, mainly in my bps using my super response trigger, but I think one way or another it's gotta improve some stuff.  It's nice because I've been looking for a lighter hammer forever now and have only stumbled upon the Dark Horizon hammer, which is $60 and there's not much dealers.  This thing's made by TechT too so I'm thinking it will rock, let's hope I'm right.  I'll try and drop by here and let ya know when I get it if I remember.

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http://www.lovesongdatabase.com/ - Love Songs


Posted By: paintballplaya7
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 12:53pm
Originally posted by Sangreti Sangreti wrote:

This is a bit old bud yes they do work but it can't compare to a electropnumatic conversion or gun


really? how old? and obviously it wont compare to a electropnumatic conversion or gun. its a tippmann- i dont want it to be a electropnumatic gun. just less kick and a little faster cycling, as it claims, would be nice

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*Custom Pro
*Cyclone feed
*X7 hopper
*M16 Carry Handle
*BT 16 Apex Barrel
*Car Stock
*remote
*camo paint job
*Single point sling
*JT Full Coverage Camo
*realtree RAP4 vest


Posted By: paintballplaya7
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 12:54pm
Originally posted by Robby_of_PBH Robby_of_PBH wrote:

Ha, funny you mentioned it, I ordered mine a few days ago, so I'm pretty pumped for it to come in.  I'm really hoping it makes a difference, mainly in my bps using my super response trigger, but I think one way or another it's gotta improve some stuff.  It's nice because I've been looking for a lighter hammer forever now and have only stumbled upon the Dark Horizon hammer, which is $60 and there's not much dealers.  This thing's made by TechT too so I'm thinking it will rock, let's hope I'm right.  I'll try and drop by here and let ya know when I get it if I remember.


that would be great, thanks

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*Custom Pro
*Cyclone feed
*X7 hopper
*M16 Carry Handle
*BT 16 Apex Barrel
*Car Stock
*remote
*camo paint job
*Single point sling
*JT Full Coverage Camo
*realtree RAP4 vest


Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 20 January 2009 at 1:01pm
i think its beenout for about a year

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~square peg~



Posted By: Robby_of_PBH
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 12:47pm
It's been out for a year?  Personally I just stumbled apon it, but maybe I haven't check TechT's site enough.

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http://www.lovesongdatabase.com/ - Love Songs


Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 1:55pm
Originally posted by Sangreti Sangreti wrote:

i think its beenout for about a year
 
There is a thread on A5OG posted by Todd from TechT asking for feedback from people that have either gotten samples to test or just purchased the bolt. He just posted the thread on the 14th of this month. I would find it hard to beleive that he would just be doing that over a year after it was released.


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"When I grow up I want to marry a rich man and live in a condor next to the beach" -- My 7yr old daughter.


Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 2:16pm
i thought it has been out for a year maybe im wrong

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~square peg~



Posted By: Robby_of_PBH
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 4:58pm
Yea I think it just came out.  If I search it up on youtube for some vids none come up.  I think it just got added to pbreview.com today or yesterday as well.  Either way, I'm pretty psyched for it to come in.

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http://www.lovesongdatabase.com/ - Love Songs


Posted By: Sangreti
Date Posted: 21 January 2009 at 8:51pm
ive seen  it on an add on pbn for about 2 months at least

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~square peg~



Posted By: Robby_of_PBH
Date Posted: 22 January 2009 at 2:29pm
Alright, anyway so I got this beast in the mail today and was pretty pumped.  So first things first, this hammer is ALOT lighter than the stock hammer for the 98.  It's nice and slick too as well as shiny.  So it definately looks and feels alot better than the stock hammer.  Now some more things.  I put this in my gun along with the tightest spring from the Maddmann spring kit.  I think this would be the best option, because the loss in weight will overall decrease the amount of momentum it will have upon hitting the pin, so there's no denying that.  So accompanied with the tighter spring this bolt did, as could be seen easier from dry firing, it does hit the pin bit quicker than the stock..  As for shooting the beast with paint and air in the gun, I couldn't notice a drastic amount of reduction in the loudness of it, or even the kick that much, but I suppose it very well may have, just not noticably.  One thing it did help was my super response trigger's rate of fire as well.  I was shooting around 16 to 17 bps with it before and it went up 3 to around 19 bps now, so it's fair to say there was a slight increase in that. Overall though, I only tested this thing out a little bit, I didn't take it for any accuracy runs yet or anything and I'll have to wait till I'm out on the field playing to see a difference too, which will be a while.  But in conclusion this thing is alot lighter and is pretty sweet looking (not that looks matter that much for a hammer).  And accompanied with a stronger spring I think it has perfect ability to increase your cycle rate a shot or 3.  As far as kick and that other stuff, I'm not sure that's going to make to biggest of difference, but if anything it sure as heck won't hurt.

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http://www.lovesongdatabase.com/ - Love Songs


Posted By: Say My Name
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 11:46am
just an fyi for people interested in this mod.

It wont work with an ACT marker. Shocked


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98c pro-e ACT platinum♦Red dot sight♦Full TechT upgraded cyclone feed♦Low profile hopper♦Rocket cock2♦J&J full tilt♦flatline♦car stock♦APE board♦ex chamber     


Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 12:45pm
I don't see why it wouldnt fit an ACT marker. You would lose the ACT as you are replacing the rear bolt, but I don't see any reason it  wouldnt fit.  If I remember correctly the linkage arms are the same lengh and the holes are in the same position on the hammer.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 1:23pm
The bolt would fit in an ACT marker, but it would be incompatible with the Anti-Chop springs and spring pin as it lacks the groove for them to fit into.  Without those springs, I do not think the the linkage arm would reconnect with the rear bolt.  It would be possible for the marker to fire without the front bolt moving to allow paintballs to feed.  (Noise but no paint output.)

Edited Addition:  I forgot to add that I am not a big fan of after-market internal parts for Tippmanns.  They generally fail to reliably enhance performance and some even interfere with proper operation.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 1:47pm

I sold my 98ACT, so I can't compare the linkage arm, but I do happen to have an ACT rear bolt sitting around and the hole that the linkage arm fits into is in the same spot as the standard 98 rear bolt/hammer.

 


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 4:26pm
The linkage arm would fit, but it would have to be an ACT linkage arm in order to fit in the shells.  This means the arm would move up and disengage from the rear bolt as both bolts moved towards the rear of the marker after firing; but once it was disengaged there would be nothing to push it back forward and reengage the two bolts.  (Yeah, I really screwed up my explanation above; the problem is that after firing the front bolt would stay back as opposed to staying forward and not coming back.)  The second set of springs at the top of the rear bolt, which couldn't be used with the after-market bolt, are required for pushing the front bolt back towards the front of the gun so the linkage arm can drop back down and reconnect the two bolts.

The marker would work properly if you could replace the ACT linkage arm with one from a standard Tippmann, but I'm not sure it would be compatible.  It's hard to tell for sure from the schematics, but with the linkarm pins in place, I do not think a standard linkage arm would fully engage with the rear bolt.  Without those pins, the linkage arm would have sufficient play in the area where the ACT linkage arm moved for disengaging that it would be at risk of randomly disengaging.

Someone needs to test this because now I want to know for sure.

Edited Note:  If anyone is curious what I'm basing my suppositions on they should check out the schematics for both ACT and standard 98s and the ACT animation on the Tippmann website.


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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 4:37pm
Ok, so I guess I didnt realize how the ACT worked exactly. i didnt relize that the linkage arm came up out of the rear bolt.  However, I will say that when you look at the Platinum parts list, the ACT and non-ACT utilize the same receivers. If this is the case, than I would think you could just replace the linkage arm at most to get it to work?


Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 4:51pm
who is really having problems keeping control of their marker during sustained fire? It's not like the recoil is more than that found in a 22 rifle.

I suggest doing some push ups as a better upgrade mod.

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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 23 January 2009 at 6:29pm
Originally posted by oldpbnoob oldpbnoob wrote:

Ok, so I guess I didnt realize how the ACT worked exactly. i didnt relize that the linkage arm came up out of the rear bolt.  However, I will say that when you look at the Platinum parts list, the ACT and non-ACT utilize the same receivers. If this is the case, than I would think you could just replace the linkage arm at most to get it to work?


I can't say for sure; but, since I am curious about this now, I sense an experiment taking place next week sometime.  If I get to mess around and test this out, I will post the results.


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Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: 24 January 2009 at 2:13pm
The new hammer in my opinion will become the single best upgrade for the money
for Tippmanns.
Our team captain posted a lengthy review in our private section. This short quote
summarizes it perfectly.
 
Originally posted by Charon Charon wrote:

I picked up the first 10 zero kick hammers this morning. The difference is nothing short of amazing. This IS the upgrade we have been looking for.
 
We use 98's and A-5' in Xball. My X7 will get one too.


Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 24 January 2009 at 5:07pm
If they turn out to be that good, I may have to check one out.  (ACT won't be a problem as neither of my 98's have it anyway.)

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Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: 24 January 2009 at 10:39pm
Was shooting Charon'r A-5 with the hammer at indoor reball tonight.
 
You can still feel a buzzy vibration when you shoot, but NO kick at all.
The hammer is lighter than my LP kit hammer by 1/2 I think.
It is not ACT capable. I use the front bolt ACT mod anyway so I'm ok.
 
Too bad it's -5c  at the moment, I'd really like to see how my paint groups.
 
 


Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 25 January 2009 at 11:45pm
So, I was bored and emailed TechT. I asked if the bolt would work on an ACT equipped 98 if the linkage arm was replaced. This was the reply from Todd Coulter:
 
Originally posted by Todd Coulter Todd Coulter wrote:

It should work fine. You may need to pull out the pin that the linkage arm connects to as well.

 

Todd

TechT

 
I always thought PETA meant People Eating Tasty Animals?
 



Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: 07 February 2009 at 12:47am

One of our 98's with the TechT hammer I just finished tuning up.

The kick is really just a vibration, you'd have to try one to know for sure. 

 



Posted By: Red Eye
Date Posted: 08 February 2009 at 12:06am

Beautiful 98 TinMan!

Where did you get your front spring for the frontbolt mod?


Posted By: TinMan
Date Posted: 08 February 2009 at 6:20pm

It's a spring out of a ford transmission.

Ford 4R100 TCC apply valve return spring, if you know any transmission guys.

The anti chop mod works perfectly.

 



Posted By: Red Eye
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 3:12am
Yeah, the anti-chop looks like it would work quite effectively from what your pics show. Nice Work!


Posted By: CowboyK321
Date Posted: 17 February 2009 at 12:46am
i'm definitely going to have to try that mod on my old stock bolt.  Will be fun finding the right balance of  front spring to hammer spring.


Posted By: ace91
Date Posted: 26 February 2009 at 12:05pm
could that mod work on the a-5

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A-5
star fire bolt
J&J ceramic barrel
E-grip
trinity hopper w/quicklid
rufus dawg trigger
Vortex Mod




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