Pump
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Category: Paintball Equipment
Forum Name: Which Gun is Best
Forum Description: Need Advice? Ask the pros.
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Topic: Pump
Posted By: K Hop
Subject: Pump
Date Posted: 31 January 2009 at 9:10am
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So I might be looking to get a pump. I've only used them a couple times, so I don't really know what the best options would be. So if you guys could help me out there. |
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 31 January 2009 at 11:13am
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you could find an old cocker on ebay and put a pump kit on it. or you could get a phantom. or you could shell out the $600 for a CCM S6. there is also a company who is releasing a new pump in a few months thats allegedly gonna be $150. **edit** forund the new pump http://www.azodin.com/kp/default.asp - http://www.azodin.com/kp/default.asp ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 31 January 2009 at 11:59am
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My favorite reasonably priced pumps are my Sniper and my Phantom. I don't play stock class (12 grams and horizontal feed tube) because I am usually using a pump in semi/full-auto games and prefer to have 45 rounds and either 6-9 ounces of CO2 or at least 13 cu. in. of air. I don't really have a preference between the two markers because they are different enough that each essentially fills a different paintball niche: The Phantom is perfect for when you want to run a really lightweight setup on the field. It is much lighter than the Sniper even with the stock added. The Sniper on the other hand is heavy duty enough that I can run it with a small hopper and a 23 cu. in. tank for when I want to carry a light setup (although it is much heavier than the Phantom in a similar configuration) or I can throw a 68 cu. in. tank and a 200 round gravity-fed hopper on it when I feel like carrying a heavier pump setup on the field. (The large tank/hopper just does not feel right on the Phantom. Both are very accurate with the stock barrels although I run an Angle barrel kit on the Sniper and a Frantom I on the Phantom just so I don't have to deal with "rollout." Maintenance on both is simple as well. (Pump maintenance is pretty simple in general.) My suggestion would be to find an older used pump to try out playing pump with before investing heavily in a fancier marker. Basic Sniper or Phantoms can usually be found in the $150 range, although if your patient, cheaper deals can be found on auction sites. (Both the Phantom and the Sniper were e-bay finds and I saved a bit, but I wasn't in a hurry to purchase either.) If you buy a cheaper pump and don't like using it, then you've saved yourself some money; if you do like it, then you have a backup/loaner you can use to try and convince others to join the pump game. Alternative (less expensive pumps) that I recommend would be the Tippmann SL68s or Kingman Hammers. I have one of each and am impressed with both for the price. The stock Tippmann barrel, although it is just an aluminum tube, is much more accurate than I expected while the brass-lined stock Kingman barrel is sweet. Furthermore, these can be picked up for between 1/3 and 1/2 the price of the two pumps I mentioned earlier. (Heck, I picked up the Hammer for $10 in non-functional condition and didn't spend more than a few dollars fixing it.) ------------- 
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Posted By: t_hop
Date Posted: 31 January 2009 at 12:03pm
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omg has anyone seen the new ccm protype? its going to be there next pump and it's orgasmic. that would cost you alot too Which style of pump play are you interested in? There are a few ways to go depending on what you think would be more condusive to you. You could get a phantom which is super light, small, and compact, especially if you're playing stock class. ( playing only with 12 grams and 10 round tubes ) or you could get something a little more hefty like a sniper(autococker pump) and play with a hopper and tank, but not necessarily less mobile.
------------- "I'm here to kick ass and chew bubblegum, and I'm all out of bubblegum." |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 31 January 2009 at 12:19pm
A few things I should have put in above:
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Posted By: Lone_Wolf
Date Posted: 04 February 2009 at 10:19am
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I used to use an old Maverick before I switched over to a semi marker. That thing sounded like a shotgun going off every time I pulled the trigger.
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Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 04 February 2009 at 9:00pm
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Look into an SL-68 II, Trracer, Maverick, or Hornet for now. Starting with an older pump gives you a real feel for the style. If you like it, you can look into something a nicer like a Sniper or a Phantom. I play solely pump and I love it. Enjoy yourself. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 05 February 2009 at 4:54pm
its coming out as a $600 pump. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
t_hop wrote:Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 February 2009 at 5:22pm
I really don't like CCM's new pump...
Now the J2 Legacy, THAT'S nice! ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: a_sock
Date Posted: 05 February 2009 at 8:19pm
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I really like the looks of older snipers, the s5, and the new pump from ccm looks absolutly sick. I like that simple look, I dont want anything with extreme milling. Just my tastes, and a little bit of my personality, i clean and maintain my guns very well.When I had a cocker, it was a pain to clean, so simple and easy to wipe off is something I look for. Anyone know if a cocker pump is easier or more difficult to maintain than a normal cocker(mech or electric, ive owned both) ------------- its easy to be famous, just set yourself on fire |
Posted By: sinisterNorth
Date Posted: 05 February 2009 at 10:27pm
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My Sniper is so easy to clean. Granted, I fully disassemble but that's how you keep 'em in good working order. Pump kit > pneumatics. ------------- Pumpker'd; (V.) When a pump player runs up and shoots you at point blank range because you thought 20bps made you good. |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 05 February 2009 at 10:37pm
QFT -------------
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Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 05 February 2009 at 10:48pm
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My toy. :D
     Some more pics: http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/paintbrawlerdon1/Dux1.jpg - 1 , http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/paintbrawlerdon1/Dux3.jpg - 2 , http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/paintbrawlerdon1/Dux2.jpg - 3 , http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d140/paintbrawlerdon1/Dux4.jpg - 4 ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: a_sock
Date Posted: 06 February 2009 at 6:56am
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personally I have no clue why boxguns and redux's are so expensive... ------------- its easy to be famous, just set yourself on fire |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 06 February 2009 at 3:46pm
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What, $1,110 is too expensive for a simple Nelson-based pump with Phantom internals? Pish-posh.  To be honest, a lot of it comes from the name and legacy behind them. At least with Ducks. I feel the price of Reduxes and Boxguns are actually fairly justified, as they are largely hand made. Remember, the Redux is half the price of a Duck. This is no junker though. This marker is extremely well built. The polish is gorgeous, the ano is thick, the tollerances are tight, and the workmanship is amazing. Not to mention, I've got serial number R022, and currently the only gloss black one, so that definitely helps justify it.  ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: arcticmonkey
Date Posted: 06 February 2009 at 5:52pm
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i think you need to write up a review detrev ------------- 
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Posted By: p shooter
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 12:23am
| I love my sl 68 II its cheap and reliable and accurate!!! |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 1:25pm
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 2:34pm
mack is right, no need to spend a left nut on a pump to find out that you dont like that kind of game style, it's a love/hate thing (it's just that simple).
the first pump i ever used was a brasseagle king cobra. nothing fancy but it got the job done.
sick redux detervni
heh, i love my Nightmare, it's 21 years old and it still is relible and accurate. ------------- 
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 4:56pm
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^^^Nightmares are so cool looking. (And that was back when BE still made good markers.)
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 5:40pm
indeed, mack you gotta get one :P -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 5:55pm
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They are one of the pumps I keep an eye out for. Unfortunately, most of the ones I've seen seem to be beyond the price I can justify spending on yet another pump. (Especially considering that I already have two fairly expensive pumps with the Phantom and Sniper.)
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 6:13pm
dont think i have seen your phantom and sniper?
i think that every pump player should have one, yea the brass ones are worth lots, i keep seeing the short barrel brass ones alot tho. i got my longbarrel aluminum body for 300 plus shipping ,but in the end i think it was worth the price, it is in allmost mint condition (few scratches), and for a 21 year old marker it still shoots great, reliable and accruate. cant go wrong with that. -------------
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Posted By: K Hop
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 6:35pm
I used a plastic walmart pump a friend bought as a joke. And the games that I played with it i had a ton of fun. So I was just looking for some input on a good starter pump, as not to get carried away. Thanks everyone for all the help. Also, stock class or no? Edit: I think I may want to get a phantom, they're light-weight and I rarely go out with more than a hopper full. So that could be good. And they seem like a very solid reliable pump. Now where should I try to get one for a good price? |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 7:10pm
blade turbo? yea there funny when you see a whole team use them.
action village has some, price wise i dont know nothing about phantoms (other then there great pumps)...
http://www.actionvillage.com/AVI-Paintball/paintball-paintball-guns-cci-phantom-paintball-guns - actionvillage
or
mcarterbrown might have a used one for a cheap price (who knows)
http://www.mcarterbrown.com/ - mcarterbrown -------------
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Posted By: p shooter
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 7:49pm
i loved my stock barrell
but i just got an A5 flatline barrell modded to fit on it and is freakin SWEET!!!!!! its was done by KPCS customs
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 09 February 2009 at 10:27pm
I was going to be lazy and just link to the original threads but then I remembered how much I dislike the search function since the forum change. Here you go.  I'll have to add the Phantom later as imageshack seems to have randomly deleted some of my pictures and I don't have those pics on this computer.
Post pics now! -------------
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 9:32am
^^^ That is an awesome sniper rifle 
I'd also like to see an SL68 with a flatline. How did they get the pump to work?
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Posted By: thejudge
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 10:01am
i think that is the question we are all asking lol. ------------- Stay low, run fast, and hope that paintball doesn't hit your... http://www.deltasquad.info/"> 
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Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 12:22pm
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Theoretically, you could probably mill a slot into the bottom of the FL housing and have a slide pin on the top of the pump handle that would fit into it. Seems like a waste of time though.
Pics or shens!
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 2:07pm
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The Phantom pic I promised kurieitaa. Current (and probably permanent) configuration. (Actually, I am incorrect ; I just remembered that I added a Frantom I barrel since this picture was taken.)  One of the other setups I tried but was not all that happy with. (The weight distribution didn't feel right; I need to try the Q-loader on the Sniper . . . hmmm.)  -------------
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Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 3:11pm
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thats a sick phantom mack, and nice sniper looks vary clean. where can you get the 3.5 oz tanks nowadays? -------------
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 4:35pm
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Thank you. You can occasionally find the 3.5s on ebay. There was a pump specialty store on line for a while that had them as well (sorry, can't remember the name), but they never answered their e-mail anyway. I did not have a lot of luck with the 3.5s. They kept blowing burst discs on me. I finally got rid of all mine and don't use anything smaller than 6 oz. for CO2. (And the 6 oz. tanks seem harder to find than the 3.5s.) -------------
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Posted By: K Hop
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 5:53pm
| Stock class or no? When I get a pump. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 6:03pm
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Definitely no. I play it because I've played pump for a while. Using an open-class will "ease" you into pump play, where stock class is like trying to teach a kid to swim by tossing it in a lake. You either swim or drown. A LOT of Phantoms have been hitting the market recently because some people want to try pump. The jump for SC and hate it, so they turn their Phantom around and give up on pump all together. Sad really.
Open class gives you more paint and air, and is similar to semi play, but with a pump. It will give you a better feel to see if you like it or not. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: K Hop
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 6:20pm
| So start out with open-class, and play like that for a while then possibly move to SC? |
Posted By: kurieitaa
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 7:04pm
ive heard that they blew disks quite a bit, tho's 6oz tanks are they a little bit better on the disk's?
meh, never go backwards from OC to SC it's really hard!.
you could try and go with a SC gun, But having a marker that can do both will be nice too, it is easy to make a gun goto OC. but i rather play OC tho
 if you want, go with a SC gun, then get what you want for parts later to make it OC. but if you dont want to go down this route, go with what detrevni seid. -------------
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Posted By: K Hop
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 7:19pm
| I think it sounds like a good idea if you can change it to OC from SC. That's Probably what I'm going to do then. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 10:51pm
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Well, for a convertable gun, I'd suggest the Sterling. The new Sterlings can be switched from stock class to open class. ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell"
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 10 February 2009 at 10:54pm
Exactly. I like open class but have tried modified stock and am so far unimpressed. (Modified stock = 12 gram and 13 round stick feed on my Hammer.)
I've never had the my 6 oz. blow a disk. I run a 6 oz. on the Hammer, a 9 oz. on the SL 68 II, a 22 cu. in. on the Sniper and have a pair of 13 cu. in. tanks for the Phantom. -------------
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