Ambulance blocked, patient dies
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Topic: Ambulance blocked, patient dies
Posted By: Linus
Subject: Ambulance blocked, patient dies
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 1:51am
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I'm at a lost of words. Just.. wow.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1166090/Patient-dies-woman-blocked-ambulance-car-dispute-shared-driveway.html - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1166090/Patient-dies-woman-blocked-ambulance-car-dispute-shared-driveway.html IB4T "We get it, you're an EMT" ------------- 
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Posted By: DaveEllis
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 2:06am
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Well the ambulance has to be stopped to run a 12 lead anyways! |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 2:15am
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Doesn't take 10 minutes to get a 12-lead reading!
Hell, this is the part that got me;
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I thought it was one of those ambulances they use to pick people up but did not think it was a real ambulance.Posted By: Beil
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 2:21am
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maybe it's just me, but I don't care if it's my next door neighbor asking me or the dang pope....if i'm blocking a car in and they ask me to move, i'll get off my hind parts and move the dang car. Is it that hard to be a decent human being these days? ------------- I do it fast, slow, hard, and easy. I sometimes even do it in the woods. Yeah, I'm a runner. |
Posted By: chronic future
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 2:26am
| wow if i was related to that poor guy i'd be so furious. that is ridiculous. |
Posted By: DeTrevni
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 3:02am
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I would be WELL beyond furious. If it were me, I honestly think I'd reach the point of retribution... ------------- Evil Elvis: "Detrevni is definally like a hillbilly hippy from hell" 
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 8:39am
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Two comments: The ambulance should not have been parked where it could be blocked unless there's absolutely no choice. The woman should be charged with involuntary manslaughter, or whatever its equivalent is in Britain. ------------- 
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 9:20am
| Sometimes you just really don't want people parking in your driveway. |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 10:45am
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 10:54am
I'm sure you've done a call or two to a house. If it's a really long driveway, that necessitates parking in it. If it's a short one, then yes, you can park in the road. Seeing as how it was a shared driveway, and looking at the pictures, it necessitated parking in it. But a driver has to be completely mentally retarded to go "Ohh.. an ambulance with it's lights on. Ok I'll park infront of it" -------------
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:00pm
| drive through the grass? |
Posted By: Destruction
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:12pm
I was thinking the ambo should've just peeled out through her yard, but then I remembered they had a man with severe heart trouble in the back and there are some big honkin bushes all around. ------------- u dont know what to do ur getting mottor boatted Men are from Magmar, women are from Venusaur. |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:13pm
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Read the article... there appears to be shrubbery on either side.
Also, being in the back of the truck or on the cot and going over the smallest of bumps is not a comfortable thing. -------------
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:16pm
| looks like the driver could have cut through behind the middle shrub into the other side of the drive. bumps may be uncomfortable, but its better than being dead. |
Posted By: oldpbnoob
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:29pm
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If it wasn't one of those Wussyized little European ambulances, they probably could have at least pushed the car out of the way.
Tiny European Car base ambulance = 0
Big Beasty American Chevy diesel Ambulances = 1
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 12:57pm
There's nothing to indicate that she caused his death in the article. I'm sure if they considered her actions to be that serious, they would charge her. She was being stupid, yes. But there's every chance that what she did had no effect on the man's health. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 2:18pm
In dealing with cardiac patients, a delay of 10 minutes from care is enough to significantly reduce the likeliness of survival. The entire body is at risk, and different parts die at different times. As time goes by, the body gets exponentially worse when starved of oxygen and nutrients. Because of that, the effect of a 10 minute delay is devastating in this situation. -------------
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 2:45pm
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Its the UK...
You know, "universal Health care"... and all.
The only reason this is a story is because the man was "waiting" in a driveway instead of "waiting" to see a doctor at the hospital... Either way, he would have died...
I can't wait until we get universal health care here too. Yippee. Long lines at the emergency room, and people outraged at the lack of service... ------------- They tremble at my name... 
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 3:04pm
Yes... the woman was sent by the UK government to stall the ambulance because it costs too much for quick transport. -------------
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Posted By: oreomann33
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 3:05pm
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 3:05pm
You are exaggerating those effects. The most important ones take place within minutes of oxygen loss. This guy died over an hour later. There were clearly complications which would have affected him whether she was there or not. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 3:52pm
FE, thats taking it just a little bit too far... I'm from Canada, we have the same healthcare system. Its not that bad. ESPECIALLY if its an emergency. Your comment was a bit uncalled for. Also there are almost never lines in the ER. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 5:03pm
A little extra discomfort or death. That's a tough choice. ------------- 
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Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 6:56pm
I still don't get how the option of free medical care is a bad thing. |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 7:01pm
High sales tax and low nursing/doctors wages... but other than that its gravy. |
Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 7:08pm
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Doctors get paid ok. GP's are on £100,000+ VAT (I'm assuming you're talkng about) 15%. Nurses could be better but they still make a decent living. Saving lots of lives and making these lives better without bankrupting people as a matter of social responsibility makes up for any shortcomings IMHO. |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 01 April 2009 at 7:15pm
me neither, hopefully you will be its first victim |
Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:19am
...Have you been to an emergency room here in America lately? |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:30am
Mine is fine. Then again, I live in middle/upper-class-suburban America, so I would guess that means I'm in the minority. And I've only been there once...at 7 in the morning on a Saturday. Everyone else in the world was sleeping off a hangover. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:49am
| last time i was in an emergency room i was about 10, had a concussion (briefly unconscious, vomiting, double vision, etc.) and had to sit in the ER for over 2 hours just to get a CT scan. Yay privatized health care! |
Posted By: IMPULS3.
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:53am
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Serisouly, how isn't she being charged with manslaughter? |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:25am
Yay triage room! impuls3, because they have to prove that her actions directly correlated to his death. Sadly. -------------
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:04am
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Also, doesn't look like they will be sharing the driveway anymore.
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Posted By: Gatyr
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:04am
I should be shocked you would take something like this and make it into something so biased, but that would be discounting nearly EVERY other post you have made on this forum. ------------- 
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 9:48am
Obviously he hasn't. ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 9:53am
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sooo easy... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 10:13am
So easy? Say what you want to say. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 10:36am
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Someone please ban this troll.
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 10:52am
 ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: Eville
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 11:06am
| i think that counts as a confession and admission of guilt. ban away. |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 11:16am
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Its funny how your lack of being able to argue a point with me, makes you assume I troll..
Why don't you learn to actually take a position that is thought out and backed with facts, then see how you do... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 11:16am
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if only it were feasible to ban whining......
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 11:22am
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090402/ap_on_re_us/frequent_er_patients - http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090402/ap_on_re_us/frequent_er_patients ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:13pm
FE and OS would have been gone a long time ago, after the fifth OMG OBAMA thread. |
Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:15pm
So would many of the "NOT ANOTHER OF THESE! WHAAAAAA!" people. (I'm not saying you, but there are many others who would fit the bill) ------------- ? |
Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:18pm
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Oooooooh Gaaaaaawd! NOT another thread whining about the whining!!!!!!
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:36pm
Lol. Seeing as how your arguments are never actually based on anything but hearsay and skewed facts you can not judge. Also, with the link about the 9 people going to the ER 2700 times what is your point in posting it? ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:40pm
Its griping about whining- a distinct difference. If we were grousing about whining I could understand where you might get the two confused, but this lapse is inexcusable. ------------- ? |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:47pm
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Look into my eyes... Deep into my eyes...
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 12:54pm
| FE, I share your dislike of Obama but bashing a healthcare system you have never experienced is a bit closed-minded. Just admit you are beat on this one issue and move on to more important things. |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:11pm
Lol
Guess you "told" me...
Guess what:
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:16pm
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FE, find me ONE just one of your arguments that actually make sense.
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Posted By: Mack
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:34pm
(Sigh) I have to defend FE on this one. He made a statement a while back that essentially translated to the fact that "you can't tax your way to prosperity." That argument was correct. -------------
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:40pm
| GUEST JMAC3!!!!! |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:44pm
lul wot? ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:54pm
I'd still like to know how this is different than what already happens in most U.S. hospitals with privatized health care. |
Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:02pm
It'd be cheaper. Duh. -------------
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Posted By: Tolgak
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:03pm
Having experience in a hospital ER, I can tell you that lines are already very long. I saw people sit in hospital beds for hours before relieving treatment. If you want priority in an ER, you've gotta cough up the extra few hundred bucks and have an ambulance take you. The problem isn't necessarily the lack of doctors or anything. Current hospital protocols make doctors take forever to do their business, and they don't stop moving. -------------
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Posted By: Skillet42565
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:05pm
Strike 2, flaming. -------------
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Posted By: Linus
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:07pm
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Tolgak, you should have learned and seen how triage works by now.
If you're not dying, and are not in much danger of dying soon, you will wait. -------------
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Posted By: scotchyscotch
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:26pm
Then why did you choose top ignore my post clearly stating my position? Clamped. |
Posted By: Dunbar
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:15pm
I know a guy whos son broke his jaw and had to go to the ER. He and his son sat there for 20 minutes waiting for service. finally the guy got up and went to a different hospital. tell me if that ain't crap! ------------- If it's not my problem I'm making it my problem |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:17pm
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Why did you bump ANOTHER old thread?
STOP IT...BAD DUNBAR, BAD ------------- 
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: Dunbar
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:20pm
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whoops forgot to delete that! ------------- If it's not my problem I'm making it my problem |
Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:21pm
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Keep it to the first page and a half and it won't be a problem...
Also, quit posting so much youtube stuff. -------------
Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: Dunbar
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:23pm
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sorry cant find other crap. by the way this one wasnt me ------------- If it's not my problem I'm making it my problem |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:25pm
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What do you mean it wasn't you?.... it clearly was. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:30pm
Best Post Ever.  Get this man a gold medal, five stars aren't enough. WAY TO BE RELEVANT TO THE ACTUAL POSTED SITUATION. NOT. ------------- 
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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:31pm
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Also, maybe she just really didn't like her neighbor.
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Posted By: Frozen Balls
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:38pm
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Oh wow high five FB you tard, way to contribute posts to a thread that died 10 days ago. -------------
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Posted By: Reb Cpl
Date Posted: 14 April 2009 at 10:41pm
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Dunbar, keep bumping dead threads and you'll get a nice troll label. Now play nice.
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