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Posted By: oldsoldier
Subject: Study Guide
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:06pm
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Who is Obama's protocol advisor, needs to read up and explain to Obama and wife some official international protocol issues.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:12pm
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Please stop the nonsense. I know you read the crap you're about to spew on yahoo. It also said the queen broke protocol not her. Oh and breaking protocol=putting her arm around her. OMG "Mrs. Obama clearly made an impression with the 82-year-old monarch, so much that the smiling queen strayed from protocol and put her arm around the first lady in a rare public show of affection." lolwut? ------------- Que pasa? 
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Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:16pm
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OS I feel sorry for you being cooped up on the computer all day, but honestly you and FE really should spend a little time finding a suitable political forum to post most of this whiney crap on. Oh look, the guy in the White House farted again today. We must make a thread on it. ------------- 
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Posted By: WGP guy2
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:26pm
| Who cares about that. Obama gave the Queen an iPod as a gift. LOL |
Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:29pm
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:33pm
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I laughed at that one too... It has a bunch of videos loaded on it of Obama's speeches too...
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/04/what-does-one-g.html - http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/04/what-does-one-g.html
I guess thats better than the DVD's that Obama gave Brown... I heard they weren't pal format either... Dur!
http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/20/dvd-region-code-blocks-british-prime-minister-from-enjoying-obam/ - http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/03/20/dvd-region-code-blocks-british-prime-minister-from-enjoying-obam/
*note to jmac3 (banned much?) this is the proper way to back up claims, see the little links below each statement, which give credibility and facts to the above statements... ------------- They tremble at my name... 
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:40pm
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Yes FE, I have been banned twice. Does that have any relevance? You usually back up your claims with nonsense articles that half the time are saying the opposite of what you are arguing. Not to mention in this post you are arguing about Obama giving an Ipod and DVD's like that at all matters to anything that has to do with this country. You are not even making claims, you are just linking to blogs and other people complaining. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: Rofl_Mao
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:42pm
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Rofl_Mao wrote:Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:44pm
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Posted By: agentwhale007
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 1:44pm
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1166490/Did-Michelle-Obama-break-royal-protocol-giving-Queen-hug.html - She didn't seem to mind
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Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:14pm
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All I could think of when I read this was how our hero Jack Ryan was always ignoring/circumventing policy and procedure/protocol when dealing with foreign dignitaries.
Does that mean that the Obamas = Jack Ryan?
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:23pm
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hmm...
I may have to change my position on "the obama"... as I love Jack Ryan... He's like Jack Bauer with a little Macgyver mixed in, and a ton of "chip" on his shoulder.
Woot!
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:23pm
You know, I like Obama, but he just doesn't strike me as being that BA. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:38pm
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Just had a mental image of Barack Obama rasslin' with IRA shooters.
:)
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Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 2:54pm
OH, NO, you didn't...
RASSLIN'...
I just fell on the ground laughing. We used to live Rasslin back in the day. One day I asked a friend if he wanted to "mover an woch sum rasslin'..."
He had no clue, as he wasn't from the south... ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 5:52pm
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Also bowing to the King of Saudi Arabia- culturally that shows a subservient position to the King. Protocol states that the US President does not bow to any foriegn dignatary, let alone a foriegn King. Read history much Jmac3. (a suggestion if you do not like the content of the posts, you do have the option to not respond, but at least research the response prior) Also there is a certian protocol in foriegn relations, as a guest of the Queen of England it is protocol as well as century's worth of tradition, for the Queen to initiate any contact, be it a hand shake or a touch or a hug. Disrespecting the traditions of another leader, is not justified, even if it is later excused, the President and First Lady should be better prepared for the traditions, and protocols of the nation they are visiting.
Obama and Wife are just showing how ignorant they are of history, tradition, and protocols. And the protocol advisor is not doing his job. And the "puff" pieces offering excuses and acceptance are damage control, If a foriegn dignatary in an official visit to the US offered Obama and wife fried chicken and watermelon, would that be a protocol problem or a welcomed show of affection? |
Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 5:57pm
id laugh hard if i saw that. ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: brihard
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 6:09pm
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What about grape drink? ------------- "Abortion is not "choice" in America. It is forced and the democrats are behind it, with the goal of eugenics at its foundation." -FreeEnterprise, 21 April 2011. Yup, he actually said that. |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 6:13pm
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Somehow I don't quite get the jump from hugging the queen to blatantly racist stereotypes against black people. I think you missed a few steps leading into your analogy there, OS.
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 6:33pm
Thanks for the unneeded racial jabs again there OS. Really proves your point. And wait, so if a us dignitary goes to japan, they can't bow? That seems far more insulting to me than bowing. Also, coming from the Yukon, and having been to Alaska/ having family in Alaska....I can't even imagine how Sarah Palin would have been on the world stage....good god. |
Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 6:37pm
| Right over your head, if based on a cultural misunderstanding the foriegn dignitary based on incorrect or missing information assumed that a black President would prefer the dishes offered, would that be a protocol problem or? |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 6:48pm
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That's more of cultural gaffe....not protocol.
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Posted By: carl_the_sniper
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 7:12pm
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This is what OS and FE believe:
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 7:46pm
I think you missed the part where the queen DID in fact initiate the contact. Maybe you should go back and read the article you posted. You should then go back and read my post where I quoted it exactly. Blatant stereotyping like fried chicken is not anywhere near the same thing. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: oldsoldier
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 8:30pm
| The actual protocol as followed for century's would be that the English regent would offer his/her hand, and the reciepiant would grasp the hand in a more finger shake, than handshake, a "hug" would be completely culturally incorrect for greeting the Queen of England. As would be the fried chicken in our culture. That is the problem with many here, the Americanization of the world view. And bowing to a regent who did not bow is another cultural form of subservience, American protocol is that the American President never bows to a foriegn regent (goes back to that silly King of England thing in 1776). Even in Japan, if the Japanese Prime Minister bows to the US President, the US President is then allowed to bow at the same level as the Japanese PM. To bow higher or lower would be incorrect in Japanese culture. I used a blatant "cultural" sterotype, to show that we sterotype as well, thinking that the Queen of England and the traditions of English culture are "beneath" our beliefs and we can break tradition with no consequence. How do we earn the worlds repect, when we do not respect the world, Foriegn Policy is based on protocol and cultural respect, the White Paper prepared for the Obama's should have outlined formal protocol exactly, ignoring that protocol in my opinion shows and increasing degree of arrogance in this administration. |
Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 8:40pm
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"the smiling queen strayed from protocol and put her arm around the first lady in a rare public show of affection" "the smiling queen strayed from protocol and put her arm around the first lady in a rare public show of affection" "the smiling queen strayed from protocol and put her arm around the first lady in a rare public show of affection" "the smiling queen strayed from protocol and put her arm around the first lady in a rare public show of affection" ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 8:50pm
When did we say that the queen was below our standards? All we said is that you complain too much, and that you're wrong...which you are. I don't see the issue here, it's pretty straight forward OS. Go steal another car |
Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 9:03pm
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Jmac, the font's definitely not big enough.
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Posted By: jmac3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 9:11pm
Probably not. I figured it would do with having it there 6 times. Having it in the first reply definitely was illegible only once in default size. ------------- Que pasa?
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Posted By: ammolord
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 9:36pm
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maby this is the "change" obama spoke of ? ------------- PSN Tag: AmmoLord XBL: xXAmmoLordXx ~Minister of Tinkering With Things That Go "BOOM!"(AKA Minister of Munitions)~ |
Posted By: Bolt3
Date Posted: 02 April 2009 at 10:42pm
No, no, they don't. Engadget is not a credible source for your political nonsense. ------------- <Removed sig for violation of Clause 4 of the New Sig Rules> |
Posted By: Evil Elvis
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 12:01am
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why was this post Reported FE? Please don't waste out time with non sense. ------------- 
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 1:00am
This sentence: somewhat ironic. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: High Voltage
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 9:14am
Translation:
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Posted By: mbro
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 12:25pm
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Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos. |
Posted By: Benjichang
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 12:31pm
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Meh. It's not like the queen does anything anyway. Silly Brits and their figurehead monarchy.
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 12:37pm
LAWL It is strange that they actually like paying money for a royal family. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |
Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 1:00pm
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Hey OS:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200904020002 - Cry More TLDR: Queen ASKED for the iPod. Not a gaffe. Eat it. |
Posted By: FreeEnterprise
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 1:07pm
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Oh, the irony... I thought "fox" news was too "biased" to be considered accurate? ------------- They tremble at my name...
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Posted By: choopie911
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 1:11pm
| I'm not using the article for anything except the fact she asked for it. I do find it funny that the queen wanted a video iPod because she didn't have one yet, just an iPod. |
Posted By: Rambino
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 1:25pm
Spoken like someone with no understanding of the power of a monarchy.
Frankly, the US could benefit from a monarchy.
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Posted By: ParielIsBack
Date Posted: 03 April 2009 at 1:52pm
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Or just some general political butt-whipping. With an actual whip. ------------- BU Engineering 2012 |